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Are any hardcore games being made these days?
| Do Ion Fury and Amid Evil count?
| I never played games from the ASCII era, so I'm not sure what would be comparable.
As far as punishing games with depth goes, I would say the Resident Evil 2 remake, Vanquish, and Nioh. Especially Nioh, since it's one of the most demanding games while still offering various ways to fight. It's by the creators of Ninja Gaiden.
| Df?
| So you want a game that's, like, deliberately obtuse? Pathologic 2 maybe?
| >>661923 df you mean dwarf fortress? Well I've heard it still gets updates, but that is one of the games I were referring to
| Hmm, let me reprhase my initial sentence. I need something that's got a billion mechanics and most of them are actually relevant
| >>662836 oh hell no, I already know the story, and the game is a grindfest with hours of walking. There is no point to play it besides the story
| Divinity Original Sin 2 on hardest difficulty fits your description. Even more so if you play with permadeath enabled.
Other tactical RPGs like Chimera Squad can also be pretty unforgiving on hardest difficulty.
| Not modern but if you haven't check out both daggerfall unity and openmw/tes3mp they're modern engines for the old Bethesda games making them not ass to control but keeping all the mechanics
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| By "hardcore" I mean so deep that they are very difficult to get into, like ASCII era games. Like the original roguelikes for example. I do realize that part of their difficult comes from plaon bad game design, but I really want some of their depth in modern games. Any suggestions?