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Video Game Piracy
| The true problem is that companies are too ambitious, just like in the movies industry.
Some years ago you could borrow games from your friends or visceversa by exchanging discs or catriges. Now if you want to share a game that you have on Steam, for example, you have to share an account and even provide a lot of private data to Steam servers because you are obligated to install the client before you install the games.
Some of them deserve to be pirated tbh
| >>382215 and if your friend cheats in a game you are sharing with both of you will get VAC Banned, so you need to FULLY trust him.
| Honestly I'm for it I mean it's really hard to find the older stuff (Playstation One Gameboy boy Sega Genesis) nowadays especially if it's region blocked. I really don't care tbh about the act of stealing games that are 10+years old for big companies. Plus it's better then these in game purchase bullshit going on lately.
| don't pirate indie games pls
| >>382354 this. Indie developers are some of the rare people that can be hurt by piracy. Although if you're broke and have no choice I guess it doesn't matter if you pirate it
| Also don't pirate niche games, because they depend on those sale metrics wheb they decide to bother porting them in the future
(Please don't pirate yakuza)
| When you pirate a game you are enjoying something without the right to do so and without benefiting the creators. It's like if you told them: "Your creation is not worth paying for"
I am against it if you are an adult and vidya is sold at a reasonable price in your country. There are enough free alternatives to entertain yourself and if you can't afford a game you want your priority should be making more money, not getting to play X game you are hyped for
| >>382398
Since getting a job and a steady income, this has been my view too. Generally when I was younger I pirated games that were out of print, or got roms for emulators.
Nowadays, many of those games are on sale again, and usually for pennies on the dollar, so if I really wanted to play something, I don't have an excuse for pirating anymore.
| YoU wOuLdN't DoWnLoAd A cAr.
| >>382206
> as some people wish to enjoy certain games but are too broke to afford it.
This is a horrible argument and I am baffled as to why it became so popular. If you don't have money for a video game, then you go without it. Video games is not food: You will not die if you don't have video games, they are a luxury.
Also, there are games that are completely free of charge. When I could not buy games, I played freeware.
| I think pirating is only reasonably ok when it's either region locked and you physically cannot play it in your region or if you're just a fucking asshole. And even then just if you know your an asshole that doesn't justify continuing to be an asshole. You can't afford it you don't get it. You cripple other peoples' livelyhoods and their ability to produce more by stealing their shit.
| This thread again? Danger/v/ is a broken record
| >>382621 Yours is also a horrible argument. You won't die if you don't play a game, but entertainment increases quality of life. And if you don't have money the game, then why does it matter if you pirate it. You're not stealing money from the developers, just not giving it to them, and that would happen anyways. In this case pirating helps the developers, as it increases the game's popularity.
| The only time piracy doesn't bother me is when the game is old and out of print or otherwise unavailable for purchase. If you want a game that someone is selling for money you have to pay or there's no incentive for them to continue making games. This is how capitalism works.
So if you continue to pirate don't be surprised when drm gets too much power or devs stop making games for pc altogether.
| >>382677
>entertainment increases quality of life.
there's also a lot of free/cheap entertainment out there. if you can't afford a game, act like a damn adult and don't pirate it.
| >>382398
Durung the May sale on steam, I bought old Star Wars games I used to pirate in schooldays. It calmed my guilty conscience so to speak but then I wondered, did my money even get to the original creators of Battlefront 2, Republic Commando and TIE Fighter, or just to rights' holders?
| For old games, I'm for it, but not for new games
| >>382206
My view on piracy is this: unless you have some strong moral reason that you would feel dirty financially supporting the creator, if you can afford to pay for it then you should. If you would spend that money on some other luxury or entertainment, then you should support the person who took the time and energy out of their life to make the thing you're enjoying.
| >>382780
>if you can't afford a game you want your priority should be making more money, not getting to play X game you are hyped for
how many times is this going to fly over people's heads
| >>382677
Instead of telling you why I view piracy the way I do, I will instead do this:
https://gamejolt.com/
https://rpgmaker.net/
https://www.indiedb.com/
https://itch.io/
http://vsrecommendedgames.wikia.com/wiki/Freeware_Games
http://distractionware.com/blog/2014/06/outer-space/
Here are a few sites where you are guaranteed to find many cheap/free games, or suggestions for them. Steam and GOG also have many cheap games and sales too.
| This is all to say that there are alternatives to piracy as an end user. You can find games that either cost you nothing to play, or cost you very little. They are not the latest and the greatest popular thing everyone is talking about, but if you are concerned about choosing food or video games, you likely do not have a PC powerful enough to run such games anyway.
I've made it my hobby to search for neat free stuff mainly because I did not have much money personally.
| This is all to say that games, among other form of entertainment, are way easier to get without paying now. You can go months without paying a dime for entertainment if you have regular Internet access.
This is why I think "I pirate because I can't afford it" is a poor argument. The people in these cases often have options that don't require piracy, they just don't look for or know about them.
| I'd say that, as long as I have money to pay for them, I'll buy it no matter what. When lacking money, then i'll choose piracy. Simple as that.
| Not really related, but this thread kinda makes me wonder why the fuck I buy collector or press releases blu rays...
| >>382944
RPGMaker games...
>inhales loudly
>gently whispers:
"yesssssssfjodjzbfozhakfjeozbf"
Pure wonders. That metroid RPG... Don't remember the name... Still a demo I think... Way too good.
| Hey gurls, if you are poor, don't pirate. Play these outdated RPG makers/ flash games that I will never play too.
| Speaking about flash games y'all ever go on those kids websites like miniclip and addictinggames and shit
| You accomplish nothing by calling pirates asshole and linking them to free games.
No, shit talking them won't make them stop pirating. If it is that simple, then all we gotta do is shame all crime, and no one will be a criminals.
I live in third world country and steam's convenience + regional pricing converted many pirates (including myself) to actual buyers. It's almost like when the price is affordable, more people will buy instead of pirating, crazy logic, right?
| >>383381
I don't think anyone was expecting to end piracy altogether here.
Just trying to talk down op and others who think there's nothing at all wrong with pirating.
| We wanna give our opinions and views, like the thread says! Nobody expected to convince anyone
| >>383392 I get a flashback from /tech/
This is basically like all linux posts from /tech/. Talking shit about windows while not trying to convince/change anything.
People saying "there's nothing wrong with pirating" also not trying to convince you to be a pirate or trying to make all game free.
We get it, both sides have their opinion and there's no way convincing the other's opinion, just don't discuss this topic anymore.
| >>383350
> She thinks I didn't play the games I linked.
> She's never gone on a Freeware binge and downloaded every free game she could.
> She probably can't even search for "The Way" properly
I sometimes forget there are people who have not played 'Within a Deep Forest'.
| There are people who have the cash, and still don't pay for their shit because they simply think that when you CAN get paid stuff for free, you MUST.
These peeps know their shit, they take the most they can out of this shitworld, they could be right.
Or you can just have the cash and still play free to play games, cuz why the fuck would you NOT try and play free games?
If you really want to take the most out this shitworld, you gotta play the free stuff too...
| >>383394
Convincing the other party is kind of a goal when debating. Of course there will be discord, but if you get your point across, you don't comoletely loose.
| >>383800
>tfw things cost money
If you pirates don't want to benefit the creators that's up to you. But at least don't use Olympic-tier mental gymnastics to delude yourselves into thinking that you are not doing anything wrong
| >>383830 who cares if they do? pirating while feeling guilty and pirating while justifying it still count as no sale and both don't benefit the dev/publisher.
| >>383800
A.) That sounds like a personal problem
B.) I can't believe there are people online with taste this garbage. I've been chilling with free media (music, games, images, even videos) for years and have had little problem with it.
What do you think taking some time to dig around freemusicarchive.org or pexels.com for stuff you like is beneath you? Perhaps 'The Republic' is not worth reading/listening to because it's in the public domain?
| >>383938
I guess it's the Photoshop vs. GIMP thing, where people despise and refuse to learn GIMP because PS is better, even if they can't afford it. I will admit I went out of my way to not pirate for personal reasons, so I put a lot of effort in to finding free tools and media to use. I learned MyPaint and Inkscape this way and have been happy with them.
A lot of people online scoff at this, but I try not to be a dick about it. I only bring it up now for conversation's sake.
| I buy most of my game, but I am glad the cracked version is almost always available in less than a week of the release. That way, when some publishers are pulling the shitty practice like cutting content and sell it as DLC or adding 3rd party DRM, I can just pirate the game.
| It just boils down to how honest of a person are you, pirating doesn’t affect triple a sales, in fact there has been studies that show piracy increases sales, don’t pirate indie games tho, those indie devs live out of the money their games make.
| I only pirate AAA+ games, when i pirate something indie is usually to see if it's worth a try, and i usually end up buying it
| pirating games is essential to preserving video game history, since greedy ass copyright hugging corporations won't preserve nor re-release old games that weren't hits. like where are you gonna buy the neon genesis evangelion game today? you can't buy it even if you wanted to, same with the scott pilgrim game. vg piracy is essential to preserving its history, and i only mean for pirating old, out of print or hard to come by games like the aforementioned or path of radiance n stuff.
| pirating new and/or indie games is pretty shitty bc you should support the devs if u can by any means, ESPECIALLY indie devs. we're the ones making history and new stuff while corporations generally milk their cash cows and make re-skinned games with the same format and stuff.
| >>384505
I don't think there's a whole lotta people out there who would try to argue piracy of old games or emulation is a bad thing. The only ones who would are companies trying to make a quick buck with hd remasters and compilations.
| >>384570 you'd be disappointingly surprised how many idiots will condescendingly and unthinkingly defend corporations saying shit like "hurr maybe you should BUY the games legally haha i'm a smart person i blindly follow the law" as if that achieves or even means anything at all, it's pretty annoying tbh
| Necessary evil
| Hi, OP here, I love seeing all of your opinions. Though I may not agree with all of them, I see where you're coming from.
| I prefer piracy bc I just wanna play free stuff. It's such a pain in the ass to waste money on something you don't even know if you're gonna like it or not. I hate watching gameplay and reviews since the game experience is different for everyone, so when a game is announced, I go with the pirated version bc that's the way I always did and will keep doing it.
| >>386887
>I just wanna play free stuff
there's a cool thread with a brihht blue title on the top of this board, you should check it out
| I honestly pirate quite a bit becausen miserly as I am, I wouldn't be willing to pay for it one way or the next. If the piracy option weren't available I still wouldn't spend the money, so nobody's out anything. If it's something I'd be willing to pay for then I do.
| It's weird that people will pirate an indie game, then buy it if it "deserves" it, but will pay the same price as the game at the movies no matter how bad the film is.
| >>386887
You're only half honest here.
If I accept I'm a sold piece of shit that buys everything they play, maybe you have to accept you're a thieving piece of trash?
| ive been a gamer for 10 yrs now and i havent paid for one single game, ever
| >>387369
I know piracy it's not the right thing to do, but it's something I've been doing since as a kid with games from consoles I actually couldn't aford bc my parents wouldn't let me have one, so I'll keep doing no matter what since it became a habit. It's not a priority, so why bother buying it right now?
Also, idk why people get so angry with piracy stuff if there's millions of people that prefer to do that way bc they simply don't care enough to buy the game.
| >>387448 just because I point out your superiority complex over spending money on a product, I must be a gurl that pirate everything and feel proud of it, right? Before you quote previous posts, I am not the gurl that you replied to.
| *not the gurl that you originally replied to
| >>387481
You do what you do g/u/rl, I can't be angry at you, why would I be?
My point is, if you're gonna get the paid stuff for free, then that's it. No need to try and justify. That's stealing. I have exactly zero right to change your mind. What I really want is that you simply take responsibility, and just say: "I steal my stuff". If you don't wanna say it, then just don't say anything. This is alright.
| >>387548
In what sort of hierarchy would I, referred to as
>"a sold piece of shit",
bear any kind of superiority over them, referred to as
>"a thieving piece of trash".
You feel like I put myself above you?
Okay, but I actually didn't.
Maybe you didn't read my post above, which was:
>>387369
from the ID:
>>913291
That would explain the slight misunderstanding. It was not obvious, I should have stated it as soon as I changed IDs.
Plus I was clearly replying to bait...
| >>387761 because your post sounded self centered and one dimentional at that time. Something like, "because I admit that it is not a good thing to buy evey single thing that I play, you must also admit that it is not a good thing to pirate every single thing that you play"
Also getting her to admit that she is a dirty pirate won't stop her from pirating
| >>388132
That's the thing, at no point have I ever wanted to stop her from pirating. Because in the other way around, I wouldn't like someone judging me for spending money on entertainment.
Stealing is a means, it has bad connotations because it is not usually approved of. I also know that money is just another means, there's no big deal behind it.
Empirically:
Stealing exists because it works. Piracy exists because it works.
The monetary system can work too...
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| Your views and opinion on it? I personally support it, as some people wish to enjoy certain games but are too broke to afford it.