This thread is permanently archived
Ronnie of Game Theorists Committed Suicide
| Didn't like him but damn it still hurts seeing people suffer
| Correction. I didn't like the channel. I didn't know him. Still hurts
| Wow. I feel like game theory's shitty now, but hearing a familiar name committed suicide like that is strange. RIP dude.
| Never even heard of the guy before this.
| Here's the tea g/u/rls: apparently shortly before he died, there was a contraversy where someone accused him of being rude at e3 or something. This exploded in a 600k viewed youtube video by someone, and even though the claim was unsubstantiated, and Ronnie denied it Matpat fucking fired him for it.
Got this info from https://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/91uifd/comment/e30ynje apologies if I mangled it.
| Why do people always throw around suicide hotline numbers whenever the topic of suicide comes up? They realize suicidal people don't just magically appear when someone public dies right?
Besides, those numbers are a trap anyways, I've heard about the way they track you down. It's kind of offensive to actually suicidal people to treat those numbers like The Cure for suicidality.
| >>374284 had a friend call them, they said it was basically just a dude who listened to what he had to say and said "oh my" a lot
| >>374699 yeah it sucked because a few of us were the ones that told him to call, he's doing alright now but those lines don't seem to really help that much
| >>374488
If I ended up on that line when I was suicidal, this kind of hilarious incompetence might've actually brighten the day. Wouldn't help with the problem though.
| >>374281 Did he really fire him because of the accusation? If so then it could be another factor for his suicide other than the E3 incident
| Suicide hotlines are to distract you until police arrive
| F
| >>374284 >>374488 >>374699 >>374806 >>374820 >>375674
To be fair, there isn't much you can really do for someone who's suicidal except to distract them from their suicidal feelings and take away their implements until professional help arrives. Even actual therapists won't rush to dope you up on drugs (which don't solve the real reasons you're suicidal anyway), they mostly just listen to you rant about your problems and try to remind you that life is not as bad as it seems.
| I don't think people necessarily throw those phone lines around as some kind of magic "cure" because tbh there is no such thing as a cure. They throw them around because it's still better than the alternatives, which usually consist of
1) Try to help and fail because you don't know what the fuck you're doing, and
2) Let them kill themselves.
In the end, people post them because what they're really looking for is to give suicidal people a sense of hope. It's comforting to
| think that there's a better way than whatever they're considering at that moment, than just being told that they're fucked and that's it.
| >>375895 Actually a lot of depression is caused by very concrete, fixable issues. Social isolation, regular abuse, biochemical inbalance, drug use, etc.
Sometimes just being a friend really is all it takes for the difference between life and death.
| >>375902
Not when the problem was existential, like for me. Didn't help some late friends of mine either.
| Consider also that in order to so much as pull a diagnosis out of someone in this state, you need to get them to consent to an examination by a licensed physician in the first place. Assuming that they allow themselves to be seen, you can't actually force them to seek treatment against their will if they're already a legal adult.
At that point, it doesn't matter what how treatable the illnesses appear to be, the ball is still in the victim's court.
| >>375910
Of course not. Because, as an anon pointed out before- the point of the hotline is just to distract you until help arrives.
| It's sad. I never knew much about him, but from what I did see, he seemed like a pretty cool guy. Also, seeing MatPat like that was pretty fucking soul crushing.
When it comes to MatPat firing him because of a baseless rumour? Fuck that shit. I can guarantee you that that didn't happen. MatPat is the kind of guy who would need concrete evidence before doing something like that.
| >>377142 I linked the reddit comment I heard it in in my post above.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/91uifd/comment/e30ynje
| Kinda.. wanna know the exact reason of the suicide, or discuss about it.. when you guys are done talking about the suicide hotline anyway
| Seems that not even Matpat really knows
| >>377159
We were done awhile ago.
You're probably better off just making a different thread elsewhere, though.
| >>377159
The exact reasons seem to be a bit unknown. They don't know if something pushed him over the edge, or if he just lost the fight after many years. The latter seems more likely.
| >>377226 suicides don't have 'exact reasons.' There may be an incudent that pushed them over they edge, but suicidality is a long grinding road to meet the reaper.
| Incident*
| We ultimately may never know the culmination of reasons... and this anon's opinion, it's not really that important anymore.
Poor Ronnie. </3
| This is depressing.
This thread is permanently archived
| https://youtu.be/cWTEE4SkCLY
feels bad g/u/rls.