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Is there anything that can be done?
| -first of all,think of the game asa complete one, finish the product from the start, then you think about additional content
-Consider modern technology is more expensive, but if you want to keep a good game you must sacrifice or wait how almost no one buys an incomplete expensive game.
-if its a sequel consider it may be better than before, something new, not because it has the name of a good franchise means you can now do it bad because people still is going to buy it.
| The problem here is not the developers themselves, but us, the one who consumes the product, if we let them do this to us they will go further in this way of making games
| Give all your money to the devs, they deserve it, devs work overtime and don't get paid for it.
| Let China rip everything off. It is the only motivator for change left.
| Lowering visual fidelity. Not every game needs 5 billion polygons at tks 160fps and aiming for that just inflates the budget, and we've gone well past the point of diminishing returns.
| First.. probaly put the framerate at a solid 45, because even if it lags at 45 people won't tell much of a difference unlike having 30 frames
| Stop purchasing games from AAA companies. Buy things from smaller publishers/developers who haven't partaken of the DLC/Microtransaction pie. (If only because this business model only works if you have a large playerbase to begin with- other developers who have tried to go the f2p/MT route have starved to death).
Your only real power in this situation is to "vote with your wallet." If you don't and you get punched in the dick anyway, you have no right to complain.
| After all, you punched *yourself* in the dick.
| So the only thing we can do is punch our own dicks or refuse to?
| I might be completely wrong or just cynical but didnt Battlefront 2 and the new COD still do ok despite the massive stink that the internet made about them for a week? I feel like that + lawsuits is pretty extreme but if that still doesnt turn away gift shopping parents and the general majority the whole "voting with our wallet" business feels really hopeless
| I mean, are you really saying Battlefront 2 did well? EA pretended to be hearing the comunity but they don't, they only carw about money and they never attend you for having any issues with their products, when they walk on the street they see coins, not people
| Oh I meant "did well" as in they still sold a good amount of copies despite many people boycotting the game and calling it out. In that scenario the devs dont care about all the people who "voted no" because they still got enough yes votes to encourage them to keep being scumbags
| >>132916
It's more often than not the Publishers who are responsible for bullshit, not the developers, unless the developers and publishers are one in the same.
| >>132712
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2018-01-31-star-wars-battlefront-2-disappoints-with-over-7-million-sold
I dunno, it seems like the anti-BF2 campaign worked well, even if 7 million units still sounds like a lot.
It may have been a lot at one point, but not in 2018.
| If developers went more down the route of Nintendo, the smaller and more creative games, and stop playing the "who has the most realistic graphics" game, I think stuff would be better. And yes, I know Nintendo has like a season pass for every single game now, but at least they make a solid, good, high quality game, from start to finish, before adding more.
Like BoTW is a solid, full game, without the season pass. The season pass only adds some new items and new quests and stuff.
| Yeah, I'm cool with most of Nintendo's current DLC policy, the exception would be fire emblem echoes it added nearly nothing to the game and was expensive as well
| >>132946 Yeah, but at least it wasn't false advertising. They said exactly what would be in it. Just a few costumes and and new character or something.
| >>132294
Locking at 45 creates judder - one game frame is displayed for 2 tv frames, then the second game frame is displayed for 1 TV frame. It can make controls feel even LESS smooth, at least until those nvidia TVs with adaptive sync hit the market.
IMO, AAA should vote the bullet and just charge the damn $90 for the whole game. At least then everyone would get a complete product.
| I'm not boy-cotting only Battlefront 2 (also I bought it but played 3 hours of nothing), I do to all EA itself, they literaly can delete your games from origin and no one will respond to fix it, as if paying for playing a game you paid wasn't weird enough, they want you to buy the game two times
| >>132971
That's because in games that are sold on online retailers, you're really just buying a "license" to play the game, as opposed to just straight owning it, so technically if they were to just delete your access to said game they can argue that they "discontinued your subscription."
Not defending this practice, mind you, but it's bullshit terms like this that have lead to some very abusive practices. It's also in the EULA that you have to sign prior to playing.
| Yeah I know but EA is a really big company to be so inmoral, they don't win that much (they even lose later), all the company has no soul at all
| >>132974
I'm derailing a little but this always freaks me out a little. I've sunk a lot of money into my Steam account and it's scary knowing it can all just disappear. Not even bc Valve is being malicious, either, since they're obviously not gonna burn resources on maintaining Steam forever.
Some of my friends say that's why they swapped to GOG but even that either relies on a digital service or requires you to download your entire DRM-free library on some fat harddrive
| >>133097 come on! As long as their service is profitable they will keep it up, and they even let me download the game I have that was removed from the store
So far 0 loss, except for the hours I could have been studying...
| >>133110 I totally agree that we shouldn't have problems with it for a while seeing that it's still earning them a lot for doing relatively little. Somehow I can't imagine that it'll stay that way in say 20+ years though
| >>132465 this is a pretty underrated post. Problem is that people complain about Microtrnasactions, day 1 DLC, Preorder Campaign, but then when their fav game came out (even just the teaser trailer) they'll say "JUST TAKE MY MONEY ALREADY"
I was pretty hyped for that wrestling game from spike chunsoft. Ready to get it when they leave early access. But then they release it unfinished, promising content on DLCs later. I refunded that game, fuck that.
| Kojima is the answer
| Kojima is the answer directed by Kojima* directed by Kojima
| All hail Kojima the savior of the video game industry
| DelToro,Kojima,Mikkelsen,Reedus
The Four Kings.
| A Hideo Kojima post (LENSFLARE)
| Hail Kojima AND 'GOG'. It is like finding an ancient civilisation time capsule where you see a lot of long lost and forgotten treasures.
| I actually don't think the loot box problem is a problem. As long as I get the full game when I buy it, loot boxes for cosmetics and such don't bother me. I can buy them or I can not buy them, either way I still enjoy the game.
Loot boxes in Battlefront are a problem, loot boxes in Overwatch aren't.
| Cosmetics are already in the game, but in order to unlock them you need more money or else it will remain lock, say whatever you want but when you downloaded the game it was also included, you have it and they don't let you use it, is the same shit as the amiibo thing in Nintendo games, you already have the content but they will be just locked until you spend more money. Now a days spending 60 times on arcades is cheaper and you have more content and is more fun
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| AAA games get more expensive to make.
In order to keep the price accessible, more parts of the game are turned into DLC.
Since they cost a lot of money, most companies play it safe, releasing games that don't change the formula at all.
There is the problem of the microtransactions and lootboxes.
And those are just some of the money related problems.
What would you do to solve them?