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Dragon Ball FighterZ
| It's pretty good. I like it a lot.
| *activates Kamehameh-* DANGIT I FORGOT TO PRESS X
| It's a shit game, less than 25 characters, bad fps animation (its a 60 fps worked game and they cut 50 fps of everything), fights are so short. Dragon Ball Supersonic Warriors for DS got 26 characters (with characters really loved by fans),fights that let you feel like you still have any chance if you did something bad, mixed fly and earth fight, is animated exactly like drawings because sprites.
| Also Dragon Ball Kai Ultimate Butoden for DS, 38 characters (All Guinyu forces + Videl) 3D models, everyone can be customizable with A LOT of things. Cell knows Spirit Bomb, 2D fights with air and earth. Also North King (Kaito) is playable, what more you need without even paying Dlcs?
| >>49baf Xenoverse 2 has custom characters, 3D fight and 80 Base characters,depends of your style but Fighter Z is the worst 2D DB game so
| Who said anything about them not releasing characters and other stuff later?
| The game literly just released.. it's not a perfect time tp review the game fully
| Unless there's no plans for non dlc content after they get ringed matches and such sorted out
| Better not just be planned payed dlc
| And if it is planned dlc? Hopefully you can still unlock them through other means
| Like what if there was a character that could be unlocked by winning 3 or 5 straight arena or world matches
| But you could pay to get him early
| I hope they atleast do stuff like that with the dlc.. but im fine with atleast like one dlc you have to pay for to unlock characters to pay for, atleast for this year
| Yeah, just released, those games I mentioned were first edition too and were more complete and cheaper(even Xenoverse 2) of course they will release more characters, we paying more for characters that before were base. Also that won't change how fights are so shorts and "first to combo wins". Also when a game is finally public is when it can be review, or are you telling me this is an Early Access?
| It sounds like you think it's a shit game because it's a fighting game rather than a "dragon ball z" game.
| Well he's not completly wrong.. but he just dosnt elebatorate enough to make his points really stand out
| And dude you even mispelled the name of the ds game
| Its "Dragon Ball Super Sonic Warriors 2"
| It's important to note the 2 since its the second one, coming after the gameboy game
| And 26 characters in Super Sonic Warriors 2? Ask me this.. can you play as all 26? No.. the rest are just assists
| And 60 fps yet its at 10 fps? What are you playing on, my fps has been fine and never stagnated that much unless it was at the beginning of a match
| And dude.. you never explain what makes fights so short
| Wait wait since you said theres 26 characters usable in Super Sonic Warriors 2 does that mean you havent played it? Because your argument that there's 26 players dosnt work since not all 26 are playable as characters, but can use support type moves
| Character* heh only one mistake
| And bringing up 3d models in Ultimate Budoten (yes I shortened it) dosnt hold weight since obviously DB FighterZ has bett r animations and character models
| And automatically having alot of characters dosnt make a game good, sometimes it could break a game OH and wait.. I forgot to mention, this is a multiplayer online fighting game, so it's not good to just bring up 2d db fighting games since those arnt focused on online play
| And last for now, Xenoverse 2 of course is focused on online play but don't forget.. ITS 3D.. it's not a 2d fighter, so that part of your argument is invalid
| I mean you could try to read everything I say because you kept saying things I said or are obvious, yeah I said Xenoverse 2is better, in work it is indeed, in gameplay it is indeed, but I answered to the one who asked that it depends on his likes
| Yeah , 3D models from DS can't be compared with this gen, but their animations has more fps than we have in Fighter Z
| And again with more fps.. please explain that point further.. because you never did
| Already saidt he animations are done for 60 frames but they cutted the animation, it skipping all time like if somehing is wrong
| Drsgon Ball has always been focused on variety of characters,there are plenty of fans who would only play one, Brolly has a lot of fans in Japan and is not even here (expect 5 dollars for that))
| All versions have this issue, is not a mather of the machine
| And wait wait hold up, your saying the fights are short yet you also say the game is lagging and going to 10 fps? So how do you know the fights are short if you can't play because of the fps drop
| Dragon Ball Super Sonic (sorry for skipping just an space there before) Warriors 2 has 26 playable characters not including SS Adult Gohan, I didn't count assisnt of course, then there would be even more characters
| I'm not saying that wtf, the game doesn't lag, the animations are just cutted
| It is short because you win a fight with one combo, that's it, the first who starts it wins, the only way to evade that is n local play to hit your oponent is controller xD
| Omg if as simple at it sounds, animations doesn't go along with 60 frames, imagine this, the game runs at 60 fps, your character runs at 30 fps, so the game runs 2 fps at the same time
| Hmm and I still need to know what version your playing on.. because not giving a awnser and just saying all of them have problems dosnt lead anywhere.. because they all don't have the SAME problens
| Problems*
| Oh and not including different variations of the same characters in DB Super Sonic Warriors 2 it comes out with 15 characters.. showing that theres a bunch of different variations leading to the 26 number
| I told you its on every version, it happens in the trailers, it happens in my Pc, in happens in every fucking lets play, its how the game is done
| This is going nowhere.. a better question would be what exactley DO you want in a db fighting game, because that may differ
| I counted before Super Sonic Warriors 2 have 26 playable characters, I know it because I didn't count Mr. Satan and I have the game here and I'm still counting 26
| Variations but different combos, different sprites and diferent stats, of course Gohan Kid and Adult aren't the same
| The same goes for Fighter Z
| Then I think the count would reduce to 12 almost
| Just.. I see a db fighting game having a good amount of characters, I, myself, don't care how many characters there are as long as it dosnt stock pile and make me go crazy going through every each and single one, and I also hope that it would do good with balance and present interesting moves for all the characters
| I don't care that much about the amount of characters but there should be some essentials in every Dragon Ball tribute game
| Because I know a lot of people who mains characters because they really love them and they are not in this game, they will, as Dlc
| Essentials, aka fusions Vegito Gogeta, not canon characters, Base forms of Saiyans... not that seccondary characters like Videl or Dr Guero...
| "Essential Characters" don't make a game better
| ... I feel like I just stumbled on a barfight. Please, carry on.
| I didnt expect this to happem
| it was made with e-sport in mind, that and if this game is to launch with all dbz combatants available it would be a 202x release on playstation 5 :D
| Essentials or not, more characters make a complete Db game, not saying good or bad, but at least worth. And if you say Goku ane Vegeta base form are not essentials we really have a problem here. The fate of this game is near to Arms's fate for the same reason, shortplay. I know these are competitive games but still, Db had an essential base gamemode and not anymore. Fights aren't epic (story can be beaten just by spamming ball energies and doing perfects)
| Thanks for yout reasoning.. maybe next time explain your essential characters when your saying your essential characters
| Your*
| I can't believe I'm about to even give my input after reading "DBFZ is the worst 2D DB game" but.
The game is fine. Matchmaking is a problem right now and shouldn't even BE a problem but the game itself is fine. There are a couple of things I would say needs fixing, but the game feels great and plays great. It feels like MvC:Infinite but NOT shitty.
| >>130462
If you argue base Goku is essential you can argue any Goku is essential. I hope you enjoy having 7+ Goku's in the game.
| >>130831 I'm sincerely hoping that the leak of Base Goku/Vegeta being in the roster is just fake. We already have 3 versions of Goku. Those slots are better used on NOT the same goddamn character.
| It was just an example, and yeah, if we talk about essentials everyone is essential in Db basically, you are not getting the idea at all. Goku got 4 forms in Extreme Butoden and they all are different playstyles, if you like Ssj you may not like Ssg
| And we already have 3 versions of Goku as it is who all play differently in DBFZ. We don't need anymore. It's nonsense to think we need to entertain the idea of Base Goku/Vegeta, only for the same crowd to be like "SMH we paying for Base Goku/Vegeta? They should have been in from the jump" when they shouldn't even be in the damn roster at all.
| Its useless guys.. its a battle none will win because we will keep at it till the ends time if its just the same
| I would say I get bored hearing the same argument.. but I kept arguing the same argument aswell
| Let's solve it with out fists
Kaioken times 10
| >>130925 That's the thing though. The shit shouldn't BE an argument. Most of this thread has been nothing but shit that DOESN'T matter in a fighting game. Some of the shit was comparing the game to XV which is an entirely different sort of game. Why do people hold DBFZ to XV standards when DBFZ isn't a Dragon Ball Simulator?
| >>130964 Nah bud you're fine. It was a fair question.
I just grow tired of this nonsensical slandering DBFZ is getting for literally no reason other than "It's not the DB experience I want"
| It's just not on the top 5 of the best 2D Db fighting games,is not bad neither worth for 60$ + Dlc. As any modern game is incomplete and now it's normal for a game to be released with a lot of issues, we all pay for that so they stop caring (Fighter Z will take almost a year to fix the most common issues) I complain because before we got 2D Db games with the same or more amount of content,cheaper, more variety (not just clones) game modes,longer hard and fair fights and cheaper
| >>131104 You've given me no GOOD reasons as to why DBFZ isn't a good game, though. I don't know what you want from a game that's tailored towards the FGC. If you don't like it, fine, but to say that it's not on the top 5 of DB games period is flat out bullshit.
| So for you:
-Quantity is not a good reason
-Price is not a good reason
-Gameplay is not a good reason
-Developers laughing at fans is not a reason
-Decay a great franchise is not a good reason
So wtf do you enjoy of a game? You only buy a game to hit the controller? I'm not complaining of your likes if you just like to play with a box, I'm just giving my opinion with actual facts which I think should be considered, not MUST, and also I want to say the true, people is free to choose
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| >>131237
Quantity only matters so much in a fighting game. Unless it's absolutely lacking in roster (which this game is not), there isn't a real problem. Only the casual crowd cares about extra game modes. People who play the game to fight people don't.
>Price
Lmao
>Gameplay
I don't see your complaints here at all. It's just another atypical anime fighter in that department. What in particular do you ACTUALLY have a problem with?
| Then you mentioned decay of a great franchise but the reality is that the the last time the DB games had anything good was Budokai 3/Infinite World, arguably Tenkaichi 2 (3 sucked), Burst Limit, and I'm willing to let XV slide for the sake of conversation.
Developers laughing at fans.....well I don't have an opinion on that but DB fanbase were all too willing to shit on this game because "It wasn't XV3, this shit weak" and all the kind of nonsense DB fans love to preach so...
| The real question here is do you playing fighting games heavy? Like, competitively?
Cause if not then your whole argument has no merit cause the game simply isn't tailored to you.
| I actually did in the past for example in Tekken, where fights were long and there was even second round, if the battle was hard you got more opportunities to win or just making a fight more epic. With Fighter Z (not counting these many net problems right now)fights are short, if you catch your opponent in your combo you automatically won, he can't do much more even with two extra characters. I like fighting games because they are basically fights, a feel of duel with your opponent
| With FZ I feel is just first to react and have better ms wins, there's not even a point in the battle where you say "okay I'm going really hard and I feel bad for my opponent, I'll let him a chance because I think he could be a good rival because I got time to see his hability before". Also fights are forgotable, you will only remember those funny ones where you say "Oh lol I won just with ki balls" not the ones you say "Omg this was so intense, I need a breath and a rematch"
| Eh. At this point I'm willing to agree to disagree.
| I don't understand the character amount complaint. Yeah most DBZ games have like 50 characters but all but about 8 of them are reskins that don't play differently.
The only game that broke that trend and got even remotely close to being competitive before FZ was Super DBZ and everyone shunned that game too, even though there's a ton of cool stuff you can do in it.
| "Oh boy I just won with ki blasts" why not block the second set, jump, then rush to the other player, because you can rush in this game
| And I think the added benefit of slighty pausing as your opponent does their move makes it even more fair, because if you havnt made a move yet, you could block it or prepare one of your moves
| By the way I mean as your opponent does their moves that take more than 3 rows of ki
| Or 1 row of ki
| Because.. theres a normal kamehameha that dosnt have a activation time.. then theres a super kamehameha that does take a little bit to activate, pausing the screen as it charges, giving you a second or two to plan what to do next
| 300000 BP player here by the way and if you're not looping hard knockdowns with degenerate okizeme setups and doing pressure resets with assists you are actually playing the game wrong if you're trying to get more out of it than your simple basic bitch DBZ game.
And I'm not even that good compared to open beta monsters like Nakkiel and Tatsunical.
| PC, sorry. Don't own a PS4 because they're still fairly expensive and I don't have the desk space for it.
| There's a discord I know made to bring people together for db fighterz
| There's some different subchats like one for xbox players, one for pc, and one for ps4 players
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| Is the game good?