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Undertale
| Never played it therefore it's trash.
| I mean it's not the greatest game of that year, but it's actually a decent game tho I do feel like a lot of the bosses where too easy
| Good memories, better story than most AAA games
| You have to have a fragile ego to put effort into hating a game because of some of its fans. If they can't enjoy a great game because "omg tumblrinas!!11!!" that's their loss.
| I like Undertale.
| I found the first few areas tedious on a first-run, but the end parts are really nice. The true end later on was even better.
I remember beating it and just wanting to carry the game with me forever. But the game is in my computer, right, and it doesn't have a physical presence. Then I realise that I already am carrying it, I'll have it in my head forever. It's a strange but nice feeling.
| Imo it's just an average game. I don't find it that much amusing like all others say in anyway.
| >>117935
it's mostly the story. or as people love to put it, "it's more of an experience rather than a game". i personally find it a masterpiece of its own, tho i keep forgetting that "feeling" whenever i look back and realize how shitty the game actually looks.
| The game looks and plays like crap
But sounds and feels like a mastercard
| >>117935 agree with this gurl, people just meme it up like crazy. That's why you get all the hate and toxic towards the game, it's lifespan is a simulation of full fledged meme
| >>118275 uh, the other gurl called the game average, but you called the game a meme. i don't think it being popular (as in liked by many people) has anything to do with the memes. people liked it hence the memes exist, not the other way around.
| >>118311 I agreed that it is average, but it was meme-d as best game ever (and other meme) so it got popular. I was the gurl that played it and thought it was meh/average, because I've played enough bullet hell and more than enough RPGs but the fanbase attacked me like I killed their firstborn. So the meme of "best game ever and everyone has to agree" was there.
| The game is a niche game, it is not for everyone. But the fans don't understand. They shove it to everyone and then angry when people refuse to play it because of the graphics/mechanics.
| Undertale is an over rated game but has good music
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And still this is good game. But in order to understand it you need to play these ^ first.
| Goddammit and I thought this thread will survive without being attacked by memes.
| I just remembered how much porn people made with the characters from this game. Why would anyone ever want to suck a glowing skeleton dick?
| >>119338 eh, some fans won't bother. They've define what's good and that is undertale, then they'll dig themselves deep in that definition and reject everything else.
>Omg the comedy and meta stuff!
Obviously haven't play earthbound
>omg the first RPG that let me talk to enemy and fight my friends!
Obviously haven't played SMT
>omg such good music and unique bullet hell system
Obviously haven't play touhou
| >>119354 g/u/rl youvmay love touhou but games with outstanding music existed long before touhou and many have better music on the very same style
Can't say about the bullet hell system, don't know how much touhou actually influenced the genre
| >>119371 Yes, outstanding music is always there before touhou and undertale. I didn't think I need to mention every retro games with good music to prove my point.
The point is that good shit exists before undertale. Undertale is like a recap episode of anime that compiles best moments of the show. Thing is, a lot of people don't want to watch the other episodes and claims that the recap episode is the best episode because that's the only episode that they've watched.
| >>119384 I like to think undertale ans a crazy mash up of things that are good but not too well known that somehow got more popular than the originals it took inspiration from
| >>119384
Ehh, I dunno. I think it has its own thing going on. Sure, it has a lot of inspirations and it wears them on its sleeve, but that gives it its own charm, you know
| >>118326 err ok. so you're mostly complaining about the fanbase. i honestly haven't personally interact with the people you described so i don't have anything to discuss up this point. at least until you talk a bit more about the game itself.
| You don't have to care about the fanbase of an offline single player game
They can't stop you from liking/disliking the experience while you play
| >>119533 You are right, I guess I'm just a salty motherfucker whose fav games traits are adapted by undertale and then got frustated because my fav game isn't as popular as undertale.
It didn't help that a lot of people hyped it for me, calling it "best game" and "you must play it". I'll stop being toxic and go back to my corner.
| It's kinda funny to me to compare undertale with bigger scope game like SMT or difficult game like touhou. i haven't played earthbound but i heard it's inspired by it. then again, earthbound itself is a more "full-fledged" game than undertale. if you want to compare it to something at least compare it to something closer in scope like OFF or To the Moon.
| >>119549 but your reactions are natural, everyone wants their favorites to succeed. Like the people who hate Digimon and say it's a Pokémon clone
And the dudes who dislike power rangers because they used to watch Ultraman
| >>119559 lol I guess I gave up too easily.
Ok, I will try to answer cuz I read it back and it looks like I was deliberately ignoring you.
>>119554
I don't see how I can really relate Undertale to To the moon. To the moon was more like an experience; I think I can say it is also about story immersion.
While undertale, for me, was an RPG with some gimmick. The main selling point is the characters and their interactions.
And I happen to not like the characters that much
| Played the normal run, then true pacifist. Cba to do genocide.
It's a fun game but overhyped back when the fandom was god awful.
| >>119581
> To the moon was more like an experience. While undertale, for me, was an RPG with some gimmick.
Undertale to me was also an experience. In fact, I can't really call it an RPG as what barebone mechanics there is only there to serve the overall experience, not the other way around.
If you already don't like its characters, then I guess Undertale's just not the experience for you, which is fine!
| *what barebone mechanic it has is only there to...
sorry for the crappy phrasing
| >>119581
> To the moon was more like an experience
That's kinda where I'm getting at. I wouldn't call undertale an rpg, as it tells you that the only way to win is to play it in the most un-rpg way possible. The rpg is undeniably there, tho, so it's not completely negligible. What I'm saying is an rpg with undertale's mechanics without its twist and a bigger scope would work just fine, but it's just not the point of undertale itself.
| And to counter the character argument, there is the worldbuilding. It serves a moderately complicated world that's revealed little by little with a twist in the end in similar vein with games like OneShot and OFF. Liking the characters is an added bonus. And did I tell you that Muffet is absolutely adorable?
| I'll post the list time for the day and before my id change.
I don't like mascot characters in general and I feel like almost all the characters in undertale (other than main character) can be classified as a mascot character.
You know what mascot chars do, they make stupid jokes, goofy impressions, and constantly feel the need to hog the camera for player's attention. "Look look, I did something funny and clever! I bet I am now your fav character!"
| For the experience, I guess I'm just at the wrong mindset, I treat it like an RPG, and for me everyhing else is that the game trying so hard to break through the RPG mold and it annoyed me
| >>119758 Yeah. It's definitely not meant to be played as a normal RPG, so I can see how starting this game excepting a normal RPG style game would be annoying.
Personally this game is one of my favourites, but I can definitely see how it's not for everyone, for reasons like this.
| Nihil Sub Sole Novum, there is nothing new under the sun.
Yes, it's shares some similarities with other games. Every game does that in some extent. Yes, it does things that have been done before, but the important thing is if the game expands what can be done with those mechanics.
The fanbase... It's some cases, not the entirety. But yeah, people should not shove the game down your throat. Not every game is for everyone, that's one reason there are so many genres to choose from.
| If there is something I like about the game...
-Dodging attacks is done with Danmaku/Bullet Hell
-It touches themes like Save Scumming.
| RPG wise it's best part would be the fact it doesn't rely on RNG to attack and dodge
RMG gods hate me so I love when games decide to put RNG based mechanics aside
| >>119897
Ok i never heard that latin phrase before, but it sounds badass. Thank you for showing me this badass phrase
| I bought for 25 schmeckles
| It was certainly enjoyable and the messages it provided (or in some cases, attempted to provide) were intriguing, but it definitely didn't break any records for me. In terms of media with depth in its themes, it maybe didn't hit me as hard because I've seen similar themes explored in other mediums (literature, primarily), and I didn't feel Undertale added much to the conversation, so to speak.
| I think is a pretty average game the story is not that bad (for some reason I replayed it 26 times)the visuals are not the best but good I like it but the community fucks it but I will play it if the community stops being so agresive and destructive against haters and other games
| good game, shitty community. just like touhuo.
anyway i woudnt replay it, im waiting for JAPARITALE tho.
| Undertale cringe videos oh gosh. The games's good tought
| So much good vibes it almost makes me cry with a warm happy feeling in my tummy, never really paid attention to the fan community but idgaf about that sorta stuff.
| After getting both endings I can honestly say, it wasn't the best, it had a decent story in pacifist, though too lovey dovey in my opinion, genocide had no story tbh and was just a game of "let's kill everyone" which felt stale by the end
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| Just replayed this masterpiece. Honestly, with the amount of hate this game gets for its community (which even Toby Fox stated to be toxic at some point) it still remains and will remain one of my most favourite games of all time. It has some pretty powerful messages and REALLY nice music. Thanks to that game I even met some nice people who had significantly influenced my life. But what do you think of this game? Does it deserve the hate? Did it change you in some way or another?