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are vtubers still a thing?
| Yes.
| yes. on the subject of them, i think the idea is cool. but every few weeks i keep on hearing about a vtuber saying some weird shit or being crazy racist.
speaking most part for english vtubers. i don't pay attention to jp or others so idk.
| Absolutely, yes. I see more than a few of my coworkers let some vtubers' stream run in the background as they work.
I don't watch vtubers myself, but I follow some for the fanarts and they're as fast and furious as ever.
| Vtuber are a mistake but their are amusing as at least the visual is quite opposing to the intentions behind. English vtubers will never manage to output their character given and funny things will keep drop to many ears because the "cute anime girl uwu" has this and that.
| And also, "oh my, remember that a person is behind this" may I ask what's different to a beggar that will tell you the tale of his life?
You may will take some time to think about your own ideas and further analyzing them.
| As for this side, it's clear that the normal person is now nothing but a dog waiting for his bowl to be filled with "feed", it doesn't matter if you do this or that; them being exposed to it will keep weaken them to succub to silence.
I want to point that the difference is the usage of smoke and mirrors.
What's else? People are just ordered by their long owned sense as subordinates to walk toward they do not care.
| I ask what is the future that years ago we had predicted?
The current reality is nothing but a fabrication of illusions to keep you distracted while the real train will keep going without waiting to pick up any people. At worse it's hold like this for convenience. The less harmful the commoners will be, the more power and control is gained. A slow game that wants to carefully stealth out gains.
| what
| >>936932 tell me which point you need to be explained further more and be detailed in such way that I could narrow down your needs in questioning my words.
| >>936932 further more, you're given consent to ask anything concerning your or any unsure situation that you may hold some decent amount of interest about.
| btw I'm Pomu
| Vtubers are just WWE for adult weebs who think wrestling is cringe. Kayfabe is kayfabe.
| JP Vtubers in 2019-20ish were authentic girls fulfilling their passion with 0 knowledge of internet culture, it grew a new generation of video and songs fansubbing community.
Now the JP scene is rotting, and the EN scene is no different than regular irl e-girl streamers seeking simps popularity and money.
But we're finally seeing the rising of AI vtubers, so there's that.
| also 2022 male collab impact
| >>936966
>wwe
I can't see anything about them being alike. Given literally any other comparation you could've tried to cime up with.
Why would wrestling be renting free in your mind?
>>936967
I'm interested but before I need an equal ground.
When did vtuber started out to be a concept second your knowledge?
| >>936982 they run around in flashy costumes/avatars pretending to be larger than life characters and the culture has a big unwritten rule where you don't acknowledge the real person and pretend they are actually the character even though it's mostly staged. Like I said, kayfabe.
| >>936986 >don't acknowledge the real person.
I disagree. Given the fact that vtuber are very trendy, there is a good margin of normal people who just talk with friends about joking how would the real person behind the character manages to do all the acting and all the interaction on the production with the sort of cooworkers if there were enough hints of them.
| Beside vtubers are mostly losing the character thing and keep leaning on just "be yourself" to lower the stress for acting, since it'd be clear that for some by keep updating daily they'd end up sacrificating completely their own personality and becoming an engine of entertainment, which by nature is very unpleasing without a long trained tolerance from the start.
| >pretend
You're badly using pretending.
In this way yu're accusing them to be a fraud into falsely tell people of being some sort of deity.
Unless we were talking about literal children.
It's up to the viewer learn the difference between reality and fiction.
Watching them and any content they bring should be limited to their range of influence they can safely manage.
| To put it simple, it should not be different than consuming a fictional book.
| bruh. I know they're actual people, just like the Undertaker wasn't actually killed by Yokozuna and resurrected, but I didn't know his actual name until now when I looked it up. It's frowned upon in the greater vtuber community to point out their actual name or previous pseudonyms, sometimes bannable with the Hololive girls, for example.
Compare that to something like acting, where actors *want* their real name out there.
My point is the concept of kayfabe, chill dude.
| Part of the fun of vtubers *is* the character. They may not be drastically changing their personality but they are portraying a character, whether a time traveler, a fantasy creature, etc.
| who has the time to watch vtuber streams, other than children and neets?
| >>937068
>>936918
read a little and do not make assumptions the reality, who gives you a ground where to be alive.
| >>936996
>kayfabe
I excuse myself for not giving attention to your term before.
I wasn't aware of this term.
It looks like that the wrestling public is quite insight over any actions taken on the play in the theatre.
I'm the kind who bashes off from my view any drama outside the supposed character. It's an action taken by having a given on being only looking for wasting time by being too much immensed in a media.
| In another note
Such thing would give many risks if replicate in a book on the other side. How embarassing of me.
| PIKAMEE IS THE ONLY GOOD VTUBER REST OF EM CAN EAT A DICK
| And hitting on your point.
Are you claiming that people who enjoy vtubers for the direct drama give to the public?
Also claiming that the casual spectators has still maintained the same interest on the action even though all these years have passed, and they'd still eat the same shit as long as the "make up" adaptto the current tread?
| >>937089 Interesting. Tell me about your "Pikamee".
If you do hold this "person" in such a high consideration. You may as well tell the long tale that puts you in a caring stance toward the subject.
| unfortunately
| >>936986 I strongly agree with the pro wrestling comparison.
Everyone knows it is just normal girl/guy playing an anime character, but if you go to their chat or reddit to discuss the IRL person, you'll get screamed at.
Not to mention, that vtuber character can "graduate" and reborn as new character in other agency. Just like how the rock, stonecold, and triple H had other characters that they played before they got popular.
| So yeah, they are pretty much the same kind of product, targeted at different audience.
Pro wrestling is for
* 7-14 years old kid who can't tell it is staged
* 30+ years old who think it is shit but can't move on because they can't find other entertainment quite like it
Vtubers is for
* 20+ years old weeb with disposable income who can't get enough anime in their life
* Horny neet who can't afford a GF and think titty streamer is too stacy for their taste.
| >>b93339
G/u/rl you don't have to read too much into posts you feel like you disagree with. A few of your replies sound like you're just making up things to get mad about.
| >>937128 how about no? You're required to elaborate your statement since I can accuse you of being mad as well for feeling the necessity to give a comment to me.
Also can you contribute to the thread's topic next time?
| VTubers are the latest incarnation of the cancer that is killing anime (so many of them are leaning into really shitty anime tropes) and weebs (including the g/u/rls here) need to learn that indulging into unhealthy parasocial relationships is actually bad for them and their wallet.
Sorry gurl, but she doesn't care about you because you threw 500 bucks at them.
| >>937125
>>937126
>hardcore fans.
>ability to graduate.
>Wow they're alike.
>Makes a list where he shows clear bias toward a single precise point.
I see that you value it as a job with future security.
But what's holding you back from formating an opinion that would work as a stalone?
If anything I see that you'd be screaming at any thing against the wrestling compariting.
| >>937144
>Vtubers kills anime
I ask for support here. If anything one can just say the contrary and manage to hold the same value
>Vtuber do make video based on shitty troupes (Which puts in stalemate any reason to develop anything new)
I see that they need to play it safer on proved entertaining acts.
| Neither way I do believe that someone who belittles this much of money would need much more in order to seek reasoning.
But the careness of your words are shown. I do appreciate having a worrywart amoung us.
| >>937147 If gacha games are any indication, people who throw this much cash onto those virtual avatars dont actually have that much money, they're literally throwing themselves in debt to finance some girl they barely know and then you get stupid shit where they have a meltdown because a VTuber has a partner IRL but their character is le quirky single girl.
It's cancerous and those VTubers are enabling it. People need to learn to keep their spending reasonable.
| >>937174 I see, if you were to inditacate those kind of people then the fault comes from the lazy teaching coming from parenting, influence by the people outside the safe limit and the suffering situation that's parts of the society.
The point is that there is no real forced regulation and teaching on the internet. (This point here is actually positive since internet's amount of freedom is splendid compared to the other side)
| So if you don't know that if by being economically invested on the internet's gain on enjoyment. It's really up to the person to snap themself out of the "hypnosis" as the leak is actually working as no different from a blood leak.
In this case, spreading out some word to try to slap them awake would actually help them a little.
| Yet, you need to seek reasoning out of the damage it may can be causing. If you were clean in mind. Watching vtubers isn't anyhow harmful. It's something that can gift joy that can be reach every sides of the globe. It's a mechanic to spread awareness itself.
And it's a game to play around careless like a naive kid.
| I would give very little interest on the people that act to support such contents. If they do see it worth it. So be it.
Entertainment has been a business for a very long time by now.
I see this direct way to give money much more genuine than spending on some tv stuff monthly or watchever subscription of any other medias.
| A person who lives to support his way of happiness and being careless about his life.
Why holding back their new found paradise? There is no such thing as living to die old age.
There is living to aim for your own beliefs.
| >>937143 "You're required to elaborate your statement" lol, no she isn't. Who is this schizo shitting up our threads?
| >>937214 Hello? You want to present yourself?
Also "our"? Do you speak of owning something with a specific group of people here?
| It's no use /u/. All she posts is bait and schizoid. Don't take it.
| And yes, "our". Not from an ownership sense, but from a stakeholder sense.
| >>937218 Your mark is off. I do only speak my opinion on the subjects. It's pure enjoyment of discussion. I'm willed to accuse you for being unable to pick up a solid chance to chat and in fear you bash off anything alien to you.
| >>937222 what do you mean "This?" I don't speak bottom. Use your words, formulate a question schizo-chan~. You want a definition silly?
| Yes, stakeholder. No one can own a community but the community itself. Though someone might own the domain, Danger/u/ without it's posters would just be an empty website. Every poster has a vested interest in the /u/ community because they're a part of the community. If a g/u/rl decides to leave, then a part of the /u/ leaves.
| >>937227 So that's how you see it. You're then just call me part of it then.
I'm contributing to give some life to this board. And I've been here just for a week.
I sort of feel like giving some good discussion for this topic.
| Oh damn my typing musculary memory... I meant that It's not as if I was here just for one week.
| Neither way trying to force your corporate buzzword on irc board just makes you sound an arrogant douche who's trying to put up some air for some awkward need of trying to take a stance of superiority.
| You clearly are used to talk like this, for such you're seen as a piece on game that brings ruin, plus with this as a given, I can now read projection on your statements.
>>937218
This post does put you in a postion of doubt. You're nothing but a jester.
| >>937228 that's right schizo-chan~. You are also part of the community~. And this part of the community would like to ask you to *lurk moar* to better understand the board's culture. In the event that you have lurked a while, please adhere to the board culture.
| >>937230 Bingo! You've pinned me down. I'm an arrogant corporate douche. Also, IRC? This is a textboard g/u/rl. If you've lurked for more than week you might know that. Other g/u/rls have been calling out your schizoid rants in other threads, so why not take the hint?
| >>937235 I see, you're not seeking a position that would mean damage. At first I'll have to point that your speech does gives you off quite the character. Regardless, your intention are actually very frail, you just seek to keep the board within the framework you're used to. Is there some sort of connection that would make you call it home?
| Is it that you, by play a game that has belonging within its scope, you'd have developed an attachment to it?
To wish what you've growned by.
| What an interesting subject. You seek something to be rigidly working in a single way because it works as part of your usual essence. By it to change, you gain an unpleasuring feeling that call to your inherit self to exhibit an action for "repairing". I bet may call yourself even too busy to give anymore interest on the discussion, thus you need the fastest solution that is called war.
| An action that puts you in a stance to make what you do not recognize, into ruins. Giving less then anything, as your mechanism require the usual dose of the same interactions. Well as long as it's not too unrecognizable.
| Yet you're still tolerant by holding back in your methods. I definitely can see a way for someone to attempt a much heavier blast on my mistakes, given also your way to decorate your speech.
How intriguing. I may ask, what sort of ideas do you hold for being hesitant? You can't tell your time as emotions are shown. For such there is no such thing as necessity to perfecting your schedule. It'd be silly when you can just have a good time for having fun.
| By any means, do you hold them a consideration that would allow you to slowly properly draw your magic circle?
| >>937236 This add on will be taken as a water testing post. But it has to be admited that I've been unable to understand the proper term to name this kind of "system". As the usual subjects do not incite any chance to get such word out.
| Also I'll look to hit into these too
There is also this thing though, I sort of seem unable to catch the meaning that this word "schizoid" would be trying to do. Is there supposely been some sort of topic that I'd be flying over?
And then call me out the talk from these supposely other threads. I can't provide a support nor interest or even acknowledge it if you try to present a point that's not "concrete".
| not sure if i'd call >>b93339 "schizo-chan". but they certainly have a lot to say. i don't see much reason to engage with them back and fourth.
slightly related but i know a few examples of people on other forums just like >>b93339 in that they talk like that and nobody understands what they're saying.
all i'm going to say is that, if what i'm assuming you're saying is what you're actually saying then there's a much shorter way of conveying that.
| hm i probably could've worded my post better
| >>937261 It would clean a lot if you were to word your assumptions. Is the kind that you're forcing to categorize me into, too problematic when you give yourself a chance to open your thoughts?
I wouldn't try to say some cheap stuff like "it's not like as if I harmed someome in all the discussion". But I do like at least some hint to free the view.
| >>937263
You know, I seems to be wanting to give some weird change and say shits like "dw bro it happen" to take out some height, but you definely are just holding yourself just fine.
| Why this thread turn into reddit post
| >>937269 I browse reddit, and trust me, if people reply as if they are writing an essay about their mental illness, it will be downvoted and hidden.
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| More like wall of text-chan jfc. There's a 500 character limit but >>b93339 is the only one who crosses it into multiple posts here.
| sounds like someone likes to huff their own intellectual mediocrity, tbh. that or rich-bitch ESL neet is crying for help, lol
| India
| *fucks your mouth*
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| But, I'm a Vtuber. :(
| I prefer vtubers to normietubers.
| I dunno but they're weird and everyone who used to make good content switched to Vtubing because the retards eat it up
| i watch a lot of smaller streamers so i still support them but it's like... damn.
| The moment Pokimane tried to become a vtuber was when everything started going to shit.
| FlaVR is the only vtuber agency that will save the industry.
| >>937632 I stan FlaVR. Really unfortunate what the previous CEO did to those g/u/rls though. Praying the authorities find her.
| >>937633 the worst thing is she's still uploading like nothing happened. Hopefully she pulls an Andrew Tate with the pizza box and gets arrested
| damn so vtubers are mostly about drama instead of the producted contents.
| i was so onboard with this whole thing. i was so goddamn clueless.
you guys know what i mean by saying "that side of the internet" in reference to the fans of vtubers like mori calliope right? i'm not sure if i can explain it well.
| >you guys know what i mean
nope :) i don't watch any streamers let alone vtubers so i have no idea
| fuck
| What kind of fucking name is Mori Calliope. Ay I cooka da meatball
| Fun fact: Hololive EN was based of popular topics of America
Mori- Death
KIARA- Fried chicken
Gura- baby shark
Emilia- Sherlock Holmes
Tentacle girl- Tentacle hentai
| oh
| >>937909
Fun Fact! Out of all Hololive EN, only Ina is human!
Mori - skeleton in a fleshsuit
Kiwawa - spicy chicken
Gawr - a Jabberjaw
Ame - Br*tish
INA - normal human girl
| you guys are so unfunny
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| I don't see them as often now