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Why do trans people insist on using trans instead of basic genders?
| because, if we're being really brutally honest here, trans people want the benefits of the gender that they identify with but not the mess that is with it. Like, example, for some reasons I don't know, it is more "criminal" to be mean to a transgender woman than a woman. They're both women, but one is biological and one is not, but if someone was to be mean to a transgender woman, it's like being the worst villain.
transgender men cannot be misogynistic.
| they can, but.. yk, it's like, idk, validated, for some reason.
Or, maybe they just don't want confusion. How about that? Maybe they just want people to know that, I'm this gender, but I used to not be. Kind of like a heads up
| I should've started with that, now I sound transphobic, but I said what I said. I've seen enough of it happen on the internet, but I do know as well, that they don't represent all of the transpeople in the world so.. yea.
I think that's the reason why. It's like a heads up for people to know that they are not biologically that way, but they want to be accepted as the way they want to be accepted.
| >>892356
If they wanted to be accepted as something, they would present themselves as such. There's no real need for the majority of people anyone encounters in daily life to know that shit; it's a kind of narcissism generated by being raised with the internet, and a desire to control how other people view them(without having to necessarily fulfill the ideas of that gender).
| Isn't it just acknowledgement that their path to their gender was different. You know like wiggas.
| poopy piss
| I don't know exactly why but when it comes to dating, they might want to warn potentional dates that they are not biologically females as a way to avoid disappointment or worse, murders (look up trans panic defense).
| Part of that matter is how open a trans person is about being transgender. Some prefer to keep that a secret, so you would never know they were trans unless they told you, or they're early in transition and still have obvious features of their previous gender.
| YWNBAW
| Op have you ever actually met a transgender who, when first meeting you, introduce themself as trans-man/trans-woman? Or is it just because you see it in online profiles and such?
| I usually only see this online, where it's to prevent harassment. The only person who I know who does this in real life does it because they haven't transitioned at all yet.
| OP, I think you're overthinking this. Trans is just an adjective. A trans man is a man who is trans, exactly the same as a gay man is a man who is gay, or a disabled man is a man who is disabled.
As for why discrimination against trans women is considered worse than against cis women, it's because trans women already face a lot of discrimination in healthcare, housing, work, relationships, etc. It's like how bullying an orphan is worse than bullying a kid with parents.
| I wouldn't if it wasn't really, you know, forced. How society is with gender rn is, you know, very uneducated. If I tell someone what I am, without using any labels, their first response is either "no you're not" or "oh, so you're trans".
I also don't get to identify properly in legal documents and passports etc
People actively treat me differently to cis people, even without me ever saying anything about my gender.
Healthcare and government facilities treat me worse.
| There's certain rights and privileges I don't get here that cis people do. People like me get killed for just existing. We're forced into this "other" kind of identity.
So might as well own it, right?
Take it and try turn it to something positive and a way to bond with people who've got similar kinda experiences. It's also an easy way to explain to less open minded people why I am how I am with just one word.
And, I mean, as I said I don't really have a choice lol, so, yeah
| This is just personal experience btw. Not saying this is the case for every trans person. I know binary trans people who pass as cis and don't use the trans label at all. This is just me and a lot of people I know's experiences with it.
| Because it works different before you get all the surgeries needed and enough hrt to look like a cisgender one.
| Why do they call it phobic when it's hatred? Transgyny would make more sense.
| >>893015 I guess when calling it trans-phobia, it's assumed that the hated stems from fear.In wanting to uphold Traditional views on gender, you're likely scared about them being challenged.
| >>892348
I dunno, I just tell people I'm a woman. If anything I try to avoid letting people know, it's a background I'd prefer to leave behind.
| I see this sometimes as an internalised transphobia thing too, as in not really accepting that one in fact can present themself as just a man or a woman or whatever due to not feeling like a "real" <gender> subconsciously
| >>893015 Fear and hatred often correlate since fear might derive from ignorance sometimes as hatred always does
| >>893232
That's an interesting take, cause from my experience I kinda feel like it's the opposite. There are some trans people I know who absolutely refuse to refer to themselves/be referred to as trans because they think of being trans as a negative thing, have a lot of self hatred and hold weird stereotypical views about the community and trans people in general.
| >>893232
On the other side of things the ones I know who embrace that identity are some of the most confident people I know. Like, the one's I know who use the label are the one's who say with full confidence that "trans men are real men" and "trans women are real women"
The one's who refuse the label tend to view themselves as "fake" and think you need 15 different surgeries to count as "real"
I've seen one or two outliers in both cases but that's what I've most consistently seen
| Honestly none of the trans people i've met IRL are unhinged, although they also keep that to themselves unless it comes up organically in conversation. It always seems to be ones online who get nutty.
I suppose the same could be said of other subcultures.
| >>0ab794 Because they know they're not actually women/men and the disclaimer helps people know to stay away.
| >>892348 it s so that we all get to wear long gowns like in some countries
>boy arent i flushed out
>majorities and their anti towards minors or elites
>are elite majority a thing
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| Trans-man, trans-woman. What's the deal with it? If I were transgender, I think I'd just claim myself to be either man or woman, not adding trans before it.
I am not transphobic, I am just very uninformed by not keeping up with what's going on in the big world. I tried googling it, but the results give me just an explanation of what transgender means, not why do trans people use trans before their gender.