Post number #715183, ID: c21e4f
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What are your opinions on forming an intimate relationship with trans people if they are the gender you're attracted to and have all the right parts? What if they don't have the right parts? How do bi people feel about trans people?
Post number #715190, ID: cf0f0b
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Hell yeah brother
Also siggggh inb4 this becomes a fucking cesspool
Post number #715219, ID: c4daae
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Yeah I would. Fuck transphobes
Post number #715220, ID: c4daae
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Fuck as in beat them up
Post number #715221, ID: 580916
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Yes, have done so in the past.
Post number #715228, ID: a45485
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>>715183 if its only fucking then yes. I have shit ton of fetishes. But not a relationship
Post number #715233, ID: 6a12d9
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Nah, not in my country at least. But if we are talking about somewhat civilized parts of the world - then yeah, if we are compatible.
Post number #715240, ID: 31720d
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I'm identifing little as femboy, but i'm only in biological girls, i know that it's bad from me, but i really can't get over it:c
Post number #715257, ID: 761369
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Hell yeah I would! If the person is nice then of course I would! Also, about the not having "right parts" or, you know, physically transitioned yet, I wouldn't mind. I'm not a super horny person so I find personality more attractive than body, and I also don't give a shit about what gender someone is. I can go all the ways. So, yes
>>715240 It's not bad homie. You can't choose who you're attracted to. Not being physically attracted to trans girls doesn't make you transphobic.
Post number #715270, ID: 8dc6c4
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i'm not in for the mental illness i'd have to say no
Post number #715272, ID: b3cb2a
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>>715270>>715267 All three people are talking like it's bad if you're not into transgender people...
Post number #715273, ID: b3cb2a
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All these people
Post number #715274, ID: 0ba4df
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>>715257 >You can't choose who you're attracted to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TJNrYfIJBg
Post number #715277, ID: 761369
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>>715274 Would you like to explain that or you just fishing for a reaction?
Post number #715283, ID: 18abc1
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Sure. I cannot be interested in a body unless I'm interested in personality, you know? Like it's impossible for me to feel any kind of sexual drive towards anyone I don't have an emotional bond with. I guess you could say I'm pansexual or whatever the word is, and what I'm trying to say is that there is just no such thing for me as "the right parts". If I like a person, I automatically like everything about them and their body.
Post number #715284, ID: 0ba4df
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>>715277 double standards hypocrite
Post number #715292, ID: 761369
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>>715284 And there's my answer. Good talk.
Post number #715318, ID: a24743
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no
Post number #715358, ID: fd6aec
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I am a trans person so sure
Post number #715365, ID: c21e4f
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Apart from the obvious transphobes in here, really nice responses, thank you!
Post number #715371, ID: 761369
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>>715267>>715270>>715272 Not wanting to date someone who struggles with mental health issues is fair. If you don't want to put time and effort towards something like that, then don't. It's also a knowledge thing as well. Someone who doesn't know a lot about mental illness or how to help people who struggle with it shouldn't date someone who does. It'll just end up getting both people hurt. It can also be very stressful for some people, so it's very much okay to not want that.
Post number #715376, ID: c21e4f
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>>761369 Sure, however people were implying that you can't be trans without being mentally ill, which is entirely not the case. Saying you won't ever date anyone who's trans because they definitely are mentally ill just shows you don't know what you're talking about and you're probably transphobic. The thread isn't about dating mentally ill people, although they need support too, this thread is about dating trans people, a very separate thing.
Post number #715378, ID: 82becd
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I'm bisexual but I'm not interested in dating trans people. That's just how it is, about the same reason why a lesbian wouldn't be interested in dating a man, and a homosexual man not interested in dating a woman.
Post number #715387, ID: 385635
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>>715376 gender dysphoria is mental illness, sorry i don't buy into your bullshit, and if that makes me transphobic then i am fucking transphobic
Post number #715388, ID: 8a4fd6
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>>715387 gender dysphoria isn't the only reason to be trans
Post number #715390, ID: c21e4f
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Transitioning helps reduce dysphoria. If a trans person no longer wishes to transition any further then they no longer feel gender dysphoria.
Post number #715392, ID: c21e4f
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Also by the stance that you wouldn't date someone who's currently under a mental health issue then that includes things as common as depression, and all of which are temporary. If you truly love someone I doubt a temporary condition would stop you.
Post number #715393, ID: a24743
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guys it's not a mental illness because the mentally ill told me so
hurr hurr durr
Post number #715395, ID: c21e4f
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>>715393 Gender dysphoria isn't a mental condition anyway, it's a physical condition, hence why we treat it with physical changes rather than conversion therapy. If you argue that it's a mental illness then you're arguing for conversion therapy and then you may as well be homophobic as well since conversion therapy was once relevant to gay people too.
I love how this thread has turned into either "yes I'd date a trans person" or "no I'm transphobic" lmao.
Post number #715399, ID: bd0693
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>>715395 Yeah, don't feed the trolls.
Post number #715401, ID: 761369
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>>715376 Well, I agree and disagree at the same time. When you struggle with gender dysphoria, it's extremely difficult to not develop any sort of depression, anxiety or self-doubt and self-hatred as a result of it.
Gender dysphoria, as >>715395 says, is a physical condition. Not necessarily a mental one. But being trans and not having any sort of mental illness is nearly impossible because of all the negative emotions you get from it and all the transphobia in the world.
Post number #715403, ID: c21e4f
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>>715396 More like "Hitler killed jews so by killing jews you're a Nazi" lol
Post number #715404, ID: 761369
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Though this thread has sadly been taken over mostly by trolls at this point though, which sucks, but the attention seekers swarm to the "t" word like moths to a flame.
Post number #715405, ID: c21e4f
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>>715404 Idk, I feel like these "trolls" genuinely believe this nonsense they spout.
Post number #715410, ID: 18abc1
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>>715401 Being human and not having any sort of mental illness is nearly impossible
Post number #715433, ID: a24743
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>>715395 >Gender dysphoria isn't a mental condition ICD-10 says otherwise
Post number #715440, ID: bf2e90
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I don't understand why it matters whether or not if being trans is a mental illness. Does somebody being mentally ill make them a bad person? And if they are mentally ill, why not help them in ways that work, rather than denying them help because you and your expert, relevant opinion have determined that's going to magically solve their mental illness?
Post number #715441, ID: a24743
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>>715440 ok, cya on r/detrans
Post number #715442, ID: bf2e90
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As to dating a trans person, I wouldn't mind their body being different at all. I might date some of the trans people I met in real life, but the trans people I've met online, mostly on discord, were often assholes and I wouldn't date them. I guess it depends on the person, which I guess it does for every other relationship.
Post number #715443, ID: 984e31
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i would realy date someone wit depression but trans really no
Post number #715444, ID: c21e4f
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>>715433 I can't find anywhere in ICD-10 that says gender dysphoria is a mental condition, and it does say under transsexualism that it should be treated with surgery and hormonal treatment, implying it is a physical disorder and not a mental one.
Post number #715445, ID: 984e31
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>>715444 how the fuck is it physical? do you know what physical means?
Post number #715447, ID: c21e4f
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>>715445 It's a physical problem because you treat it with physical practices. If you're telling me it's a mental condition then that means you're also telling me you think all trans people need conversion therapy.
Post number #715450, ID: 984e31
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>>715447 taking antidepressant pills is a physical practice. thus depression is a physical disorder...?
Post number #715452, ID: 984e31
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also i'm obviously for conversion therapy. way better than mutilation and injections with destabilizing hormones
Post number #715455, ID: c21e4f
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>>715450 Taking antidepressant pills effects the chemical balances within our brains, which then effects our moods and feelings. If you want to argue that because the brain is physical then all mental conditions are technically physical then sure, depression is physical. However by the standard meaning of mental condition we're talking about conditions to the brain, so depression still falls under mental condition.
Post number #715456, ID: 984e31
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>>715455 that doesn't exempt trannyism from being a disorder tho
Post number #715457, ID: 984e31
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genital mutilation and hormone injections are basically not a treatment more like a sad fake bandaid solution that gets ripped off 20 years down the line
Post number #715458, ID: 984e31
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idk man all this is stupid, if i owned a textboard shit like this would be banned, look what dangeru became over the years
Post number #715459, ID: c21e4f
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Lmao, keep on hating, transphobe
Post number #715460, ID: 984e31
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>>715459 so you are finally showing how stupid you are. ok
Post number #715469, ID: a24743
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>>715444 https://i.imgur.com/DIW17KD.png not my problem that you're fucking blind lmao
Post number #715472, ID: 38012a
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ccording to all known laws of aviation,
there is no way a bee should be able to fly.
Its wings are too small to get its fat little body off the ground.
The bee, of course, flies anyway
because bees don't care what humans think is impossible.
Post number #715473, ID: 38012a
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I missed the A at the start, fuck
Post number #715474, ID: c21e4f
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>>715469 Alright, fair enough. However I'm lucky enough to live under the NHS that states "Gender dysphoria is not a mental illness", unlike the very controversial WHO.
Post number #715475, ID: 984e31
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>>715474 the NHS is total garbage >>715473 imagine an admin just posted the ENTIRE thing in here
Post number #715476, ID: c21e4f
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>>715475 Someone's salty they don't get free healthcare lmao
Post number #715477, ID: a24743
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>>715474 you are very right about WHO being controversial as balls, they literally removed gender dysphoria from ICD-11 without any proper reasoning whatsoever
Post number #715478, ID: bf2e90
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>>715457 How do you know that? Why do you get to decide if it's a solution or not? Maybe it's not a solution for some, but maybe it is a solution for others. Let people choose their own path.
Post number #715479, ID: 8dc6c4
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>>715476 projecting: lvl 120
Post number #715482, ID: 38012a
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Now I think about it wouldn't it be physically impossible to perform genital mutilation on Wolverine?
Post number #715483, ID: 8dc6c4
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>>715478 what about if someone is crazy and believes he must go fight the tall magic dragons of Satan in the secret illuminati bunkers in the steppes of Ohio, would you let them go and fuck themselves up or refer em to a psychologist
Post number #715484, ID: 8dc6c4
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well it doesn't matter. i've given my answer already. trannymobs like this make me want to do everything i can to stay away from people like that... these threads suck, there should be a /trash/ board
Post number #715487, ID: c21e4f
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>>715484 When there is a /trash/ board I'll be sure to come check how you're doing there :)
Post number #715491, ID: bf2e90
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>>715483 You aren't referring people to psychiatrists right now, you're making the moral argument that a certain type of treatment psychiatrists give is bad to a bunch of g/u/rls on danger/u/ who have zero effect on whether or not that treatment gets used.
Post number #715492, ID: bf2e90
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>>715484>do everything i can to stay away from people like that...
You posted in this thread though?
Post number #715493, ID: 8dc6c4
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>>715487 what a bland reply... >>715491 you haven't answered
Post number #715494, ID: bf2e90
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>>715493 Ok, I'll answer yes. That still doesn't mean the analogy matters.
Post number #715496, ID: 8dc6c4
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>>715494 no it doesn't, at least to people without a brain
Post number #715498, ID: bf2e90
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>>715496 How many trans people have you referred to psychologists? How many times have you actually tried to help an individual rather than telling an anonymous group the way they should all do things?
Post number #715513, ID: 8dc6c4
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>>715498 i'm in this thread going against people that promote mental disorders
Post number #715514, ID: 38012a
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Mans the question was would you date a trans, not are you trippity troppity transphobic, it's a yes or no awnser
Post number #715931, ID: 7529c8
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Being trans is a broad field. They even fight within their own realm with each other (transmedicalists and truscum and etc.) I'd say it depends on the personality. I don't like people who insist of the pronouns and their only topic everyday are transissues and everything evolves around themselves and these issues,it's unsympathetic for me. And because 90% of transpeople are like this, i stay away from them most of the time. It's their personality that i don't like
Post number #716038, ID: 38012a
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fr tho, Personally I wouldn't and thats purely down to personal preference and what I want/am attracted to in a relationship, and in no way is correlated to how I feel about transgender people as a whole, who are just as human as anyone else. It's important people know that what someone wants in a relationship and or family in their future is in no way reflective of how they may feel about a group of people in general. Trans people are great, but not for me in a romantic relation.
Post number #716043, ID: c21e4f
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>>715931 Just as with people in general there will always be the ones that suck. If someone's whole personality and existence is just that they're trans then yeah that's pretty toxic, but I don't agree that that's 90% of trans people. Maybe 90% of your experience with them, but you can't speak for everyone.
>>716038 Everyone has their preferences and that's perfectly fine. Some people couldn't date the opposite race, others couldn't date a trans person. As long as you're happy.
Post number #716452, ID: 0e8b40
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I think I'd have to form a really, really tight bond with that person in order to consider it, because the idea of dating someone who'd mutilate their body to that extent, or is likely to suffer from very severe mental issues sounds very uncomfortable to me. But I wouldn't cross it off entirely, because at the end of the day it's the person who matters.
Also jesus christ you have to stop shouting "TRANSPHOBE!! TRANSPHOBE!!" at every opinion you dislike
Post number #716523, ID: c24eae
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Well I'm in a polycule of trans girls right now, so yes I'd date a trans person. <3 <3 <3
Post number #716528, ID: 27cb68
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I would, if they look and sound like the gender, I'm into
Post number #716572, ID: df458e
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Yeah, so cringe that if you wouldn't date one it's automatically transphobe. And they wonder why people dont think highly of them. Honk honk
Post number #716600, ID: d9998a
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Have you two been reading the same thread as everyone else?
Post number #716700, ID: 679851
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A phobia is an aversion to something, so feeling disgusted or uncomfortable over bottom surgery or like you have to prevent bottom surgery (or related) essentially makes someone a transphobe. I don't think the label itself is the problem >>716572 &>>716452 are referencing, though, but the fact that it's usually coupled with dismissiveness as in>>715459 . The conclusion is that there would be less of an argument if both people took the time to empathize, which is often the case.
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| What are your opinions on forming an intimate relationship with trans people if they are the gender you're attracted to and have all the right parts? What if they don't have the right parts? How do bi people feel about trans people?