Post number #658805, ID: e6ca54
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Drawing simple shapes like spheres and boxes all the time gets REAL boring REAL fast. And trying to draw what I want and failing all the time is pretty frustrating. How do you deal with that? Are there exercises that aren't completely bland are more fun/creative? Is there some trick to switch your mindset to accept failure?
Also, if you draw, post your Instagram, Deviantart, individual picture, what have you. I know for sure danger/u/ has some talented AND hardworking artists.
Post number #658850, ID: df1a68
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Read "Drawing on the right side of brain" by Betty Edwards. The book is dedicated to drawing what you see in front of you (or on the photo, ofc), but it is actually a very useful skill which not even every popular artist on the Net can do properly, and it will teach you the basics which you will be able to use in the future.
Post number #659283, ID: e6ca54
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>>658850 Huh, I've seen quite a few negative reviews on that book, mostly because of some faux psychology stuff and teaching habits that may end up being harmful and hard to unlearn in the long run. And it's pretty old, too...
Post number #659343, ID: 67f8a4
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>>659283 even if it's as bad as you think, there is still something to be learnt from it.
reading a piece of garbage can still teach you good lessons.
if that made any sense...
Post number #659344, ID: 67f8a4
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everything's hypothetical, i'm not judging anything or anyone, just so you know.
Post number #659403, ID: e6ca54
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>>659343 I get what you're saying, but I'd rather leasrn from the best immediately than keep sifting through potential garbage.
Post number #659509, ID: 8994b9
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U just gotta stick to it, sadly. It takes a looot of practice but it CAN be learned. Just gotta practice consistently.
I have an IG account named:hahanoui
My art style is in there. Not sure if that's what you want though
Post number #661226, ID: a0eecd
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>>659283 >>faux She didn't just fucking make this up, you know. Besides, it actually is a pretty interesting question, why and how exactly people find their way to drawing objects they see. >>old It's not. People have been drawing for centuries, if not for millenniums, and this book was only released in 1979. There's been several re-editions, the last of which was like in 2010, therefore it is not as redundant as one may think.
Post number #661227, ID: a0eecd
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The basics were known for a long period of time, same as maths and physics, the basics of which will always be the same as they were in 18 century. This book, however, is actually unique, because it provides you with a peculiar and unobvious way of drawing. It teaches you to SEE the objects as they appear in front of you and to understand how to perceive them correctly and to carry over their appearance on the sheet of paper. This way of drawing can't go redundant that easily.
Post number #661229, ID: a0eecd
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However there is really a lot of that psychological stuff on how the brain works during the process of drawing, which some may find boring and unrelevant (but I think it is relevant and cool and interesting anyway), so not everyone will manage to finish it.
This book provides you with clever and unobvious tricks of drawing, and which of them you're going to use and which will find unrelevant is up to you.
Post number #661230, ID: a0eecd
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Tl;dr:
You won't be able to instantly draw like God after finishing this book, but you will get the basics and cool tricks (some of which you won't find in other books) which you'll be able to use to progress by yourself
Post number #661231, ID: a0eecd
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and you will get better, if you'll manage to finish it.
Post number #661232, ID: a0eecd
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also don't believe in false advertising showing examples of works made by others after "this book", because these are the drawings of ppl which took 5 days 8-hours-a-day training course lectured by the author, which is kinda the different story
Post number #661235, ID: a0eecd
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>>659509 hahanoui I've checked your drawings, they're pretty nice!
Post number #661375, ID: 8994b9
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>>661235 thanks. Took me a while to find an art style im comfy with. I hope u find urs
Post number #661678, ID: e6ca54
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>>8994b9 Hey, you're pretty good! Nice style, plenty of interesting ideas. Hopefully we'll be seeing more from you in the future!
Post number #661679, ID: e6ca54
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>>a0eecd Oh come on, the whole "right side of the brain" thing is laughable as it is, and the rest of the psychological is not much better from what I've seen. The lessons/exercises do seem reasonable though. Not that I would know if they are, but that's the impression I get. It isn't quite the kind of drawing I want to do, but fundamentals are fundamentals, right? Maybe I'll stick with it for now.
Post number #661680, ID: 0a477a
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>>661679 Actually there's not much you really need to know. The point of this is not that you draw with "right side of the brain", but enter in a special mode (call it whatever you like) and focus your attention on specific parts of the object you're drawing
Post number #661683, ID: 0a477a
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also usually the main problem with trying to redraw the visible object is that you use familiar symbols to "describe" the object, like, "the eye is a circle inside of an ellipse" and so on, while you should be drawing the object "as it is"
Post number #661684, ID: 0a477a
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Also you'll get experience while drawing the real objects down and will better understand how things work
Post number #661687, ID: 0a477a
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but yeah, it may be not exactly the thing you want. However it's better to know such things, than not.
Kek, like, I've even got a friend who's a student at an art college and she hasn't heard of negative spaces, which are discussed in the book
Post number #661689, ID: e6ca54
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>>661687 Yeah, that's pretty much what I mean when I say that "fundamentals are fundamentals." I do realize that it's pretty much the cornerstone of this whole drawing thing, but it's always presented in such a boring and dry way, so I burn out pretty quickly on the whole "simple shapes" stuff. So I thought that maybe there's a more interesting way of practicing the basics to get the same skills (maybe a bit slower, that's an acceptable tradeoff) and not get bored out of my mind.
Post number #661695, ID: 0a477a
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>>661689 relatable
Post number #662886, ID: e6ca54
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>>661695 So I guess everyone struggles with that at some point? One would think some kind of solution would be developed if it's such a widespread issue.
Post number #662894, ID: f608e9
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>>662886 I never struggled with it. I thought it was easy and fun watching your progress.
Post number #662910, ID: 8994b9
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>>661678 thank u i genuinely appreciate that. Trying to be more active but honestly im depressed lol nothing's coming out of my brain other than squiggles
Post number #662921, ID: f608e9
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>>662910 Try exercising? Exercise (just jumping jacks is fine) for 15 minutes every 45 minutes while you draw and it'll boost your mood and brain power.
Post number #662927, ID: f5d981
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>>nothing's coming out of my brain other than squiggles
It is kinda obvious,ok, I know, but if you want to draw using your imagination, first you're going to need to have that exact imagination. Maybe your main problem is not being unable to draw, but being unable to imagine things then
dunno
Post number #662928, ID: f5d981
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Try finding pictures you like and use them as references
??
Post number #663607, ID: e6ca54
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>>662894 It is fun when you do actually progress. But failing at the same things over and over gets pretty frustrating over time. Although maybe that's a problem of having too high expectation, but I don't have a clue on how to deal with that either.
>>662910 Use references! All the time! What >>f5d981 is talking about is called a visual library, the only way to build that up is looking at a lot of other art and drawing from reference. For ideas use some site or app with prompts.
Post number #664385, ID: 967124
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just do it, pretty much. you practice a lot and get better eventually. reading even a hundred books will do fuck all without putting pencil to paper
Post number #664425, ID: 5e929f
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>>662927 Imma add to this that I know someone who is unable to visualize things in their head (I think it's called aphantasia?), but she draws really well.
I'm not artist myself so I don't know what kind of sorcery is behind that, but don't feel bad if you have that kind of condition too. You should still try to build a visual library as >>663607 said.
Post number #664711, ID: 9d5ef1
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>>664425 does she draw what she sees in front of her?
Post number #665327, ID: 107361
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>>664425 or what?
Post number #665350, ID: 5e929f
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>>664711 I don't really know how she does it. She draws a lot of original characters too so she doesn't always need a reference.
Post number #665855, ID: d535a5
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>>665350 okay, now that is really interesting
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| Drawing simple shapes like spheres and boxes all the time gets REAL boring REAL fast. And trying to draw what I want and failing all the time is pretty frustrating. How do you deal with that? Are there exercises that aren't completely bland are more fun/creative? Is there some trick to switch your mindset to accept failure?
Also, if you draw, post your Instagram, Deviantart, individual picture, what have you. I know for sure danger/u/ has some talented AND hardworking artists.