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Im honestly considering killing myself because of my voice
| vocaroo sample?
| >>639405 https://voca.ro/mdZuNeczMi5
Here you go. I've been doing the swallowing vocal excercise every day, dozens and dozens of times a day for almost a month now, off and on before. My voice isn't really warmed up here but I broke down crying after recording and idk if I can talk for minutes trying to make this disgusting thing work right now, maybe I'll try again tomorrow, hope this helps somehow
| Have u tried taking hormones
| >>639410 I want to but if I do atm my parents will kick me out, and from what I've read it doesn't change trans girls voices at all, only trans guys
| >>639409
It takes, on average, 1-2 years with a vocal coach to learn how to properly mimic a female register and tone.
You've been at it for a few months, off and on. That's good progress.
I highly advise that, since you still live with your parents, you tell them you want to see a therapist for a related issue, and then confide in your therapist. They will be able to give you professional help.
Best of luck out there.
| well buddy, turns out there's no such thing as MtF...
truth is often something people don't want to hear, but here it is.
truth is offensive. you're not gonna be a girl mate.
be a qute boy and take life easy. no need to build yourself reasons to die.
wishing you no crap in life! be happy, originally
| >>639460
and yeah i know it may hurt or make people mad but being real is best medicine, best medicine is bitter.
that's how i am, if i didn't care about you i'd just say nothing or lie and move on.
imagine yourself in 20, 30 years, still in the ftm shit.
you realize it? i'm not saying kys, just that it's hardly feasible and might just make you feel worse as time goes on.
trannies don't age. best thing you can do is take live from behind and wait for next reincarnation (as a gurl)
| all in all i hope you don't fuck yourself up and live a happy life where you find fulfillment in great and comfy things
but yeah the world can hurt
| Do it, faggot.
| ANOTHER one of these threads, how riveting.
| >>639409
Resonance ISN'T a way to make your voice feminine. It's ONE puzzle piece but not the entire story. You need to shape your vowels, reduce mouth space, learn to increase your pitch, and literally so much more.
Don't get discouraged. A month isn't even enough time to train your muscles for resonance.
| >>639404 don't get too hung up on that. Everything takes time and it's not like your voice right now is unpleasant or anything like that.
| >>639458 I've tried the therapist thing and it went pretty good until they realized the insurance was messed up, so they took me out and aren't letting me back in
| >>639511 my voice is really unpleasant right now though, and real obviously masculine, I dont even sound like a femboy let alone a real girl
| >>639404 Please don't become another statistic, get professional voice training. You can get a feminine voice it just requires practice and getting use to it.
| Bruv, the best advice that can be given to anyone in your position is to be patient. And I don't mean with voice, but with the whole trans thing. If you are still that young that you live with your parents chances are it's just a fad. Why don't you just wait until you make your own living and then rethink the whole thing again and decide whether it is really what you want. Then you can start taking hormones n shit. You can fuck yourself in the ass while you wait or something.
| Killing yourself now would just prove the stereotype that trans people are just edgy teenagers who don't know what do they want in life (and kill themselves in 40% cases as a result)
| You should do it on steam, at least.
| >>639605 I hope you don't actually kill yourself over something like this OP and I hope you're not into self harm.
| Hey op ngl the way you pronounce words does sound girly tho. I was expecting a lot worse from your text, and i'm sure you're gonna improve with time
| >>639605
You've definitely got the teenage girl drama part down.
But seriously, listen to
>>639586
You're upset, and a few months won't show results that take years.
| OP can take vocal lessons online through Skype. Also if you want to continue therapy for support there's always online support groups for free or even therapists willing to do skype sessions. If you know a clinic in your area you can always call and see if they do online sessions
| Fellow trans person here, it really does just take time to practice and train your voice to sound more feminine. You don't sound terrible rn and I'm sure your voice will just get better. Stay strong and don't listen to the transphobes
| >>639708
i am a transphobe because i don't want OP to ruin his body. even if he nails the voice, does he even remotely pass as a girl?
and even if he passes, what will he look like at age 40, 50, 60?
what sort of life will await him?
so this is what makes me a monster: not wanting people to screw their lives up.
i fully assume my positions.
| >>639815
The thing there though, is that you really don't know what it feels like to be trans. If changing their bodies makes them happier, who are you to tell them what's best for them? Yes, there is the stuff with trans suicide rates, but that goes for trans people who don't transition too. Transitioning can often give them hope and over long periods of time make them feel better, instead of them just not doing what they want to and staying severely depressed forever.
| Yeah
Why stay depressed when you can just kill yourself. That's the spirit!
| >>639826
Eh. In my opinion trying is a lot better than just giving up. Trying to find happiness is a hell of a lot harder when you're dead and unable to do it.
| >>639824
if something makes you severely depressed, it's time to get a cure for it. "transitioning" is biding time until the final destination when you look at yourself in the mirror when you're a few decades older.
it's a lose-lose situation like doing drugs. it feels good but fucks you up in the end no matter how you approach it. getting off it is painful but the healthiest thing to do in the end. maybe OP can try astral projection to find out whether an XY body is free next life
| at any rate i don't like this topic because i'm often direct with what i say and mean, i just hope it doesn't sting anyone right in the feels specifically if they're suicidal.
>>639830
in my belief system if you die you keep on going, it's just that your body isn't there. so it's important to work on your issues in this life and make the best of it. OP feels stuck, thinking that he could have had such a full life if he was girl.
he fails to see full lives are made, not obtained.
| >>639824
While I agree there are a small percentage of naturally occuring trans people,'being trans' is and has been the popular thing. Many people who claim trans or AGP are not. If they are trans, they should pursue it, after they have been to a specialist to confirm. Then they should be shown what their choice means down the line, what to expect in 5, 10, 20 years.
Threatening suicide because a month of work hasn't changed their voice is a cry for help, not validation.
| >>639833
i will always be doubtful of the whole "transitioning" thing for the reasons that i have given. it is possible that even with all the investment of the world an individual will never pass, and there are so many of these out there.
this is part of why i hate the LGBibby fad. it's just generally a worthless and negative influence on society.
i hate it because of what it does to people and that it stands for nothing much at all.
but yeah, OP is in distress.
that's important.
| Do it lmao
| >>639849
You hate it because you don't understand it and are uneducated. There's a clear distinction. You talk like being trans is a choice, and at the same time admit that it isn't. What makes you think that OP is just pretending to be trans for attention or that sexual orientation is something that can be changed? As someone with an unorthodox sexual orientation I know very well that stuff like that is not something you can get rid of or ignore. That just makes you suicidal.
| Every time I see a thread like this I get really sad, lots of people being rude to downtrodden people and anyone who defends them, just draws more hate. You can't disrespect trans people and call yourself a cyberpunk, those two things are directly opposed. You're supposed to be fighting the systems that oppress us, but you're just contributing to a culture of homogeneity and societal control whether you realize it or not
| OP made a bunch of g/u/rls lose their shit over suicide controversy and killes himself while everyone was trying to argue with him. Good prank OP
| >>639899
you're going back to 'anyone who disagrees with me is rude' and that's just missing the entire point of the argument.
>>639895
haughty, shortsighted, dismissive - i responded in kind.
| i get the feeling OP is just sitting on the sidelines with paper cuts in his soul watching us squabble about...
| >>639921
The fact that you dismiss the entire argument without even attempting to say anything that counters it is kinda, you know, hypocritical as fuck.
>>639924
Yeah. I feel really bad about all this. Poor OP. I know how it feels all too well and it hurts like hell.
| >>639895
It's a shit opinion because they disagree and don't have anything reasonable to say against it. Basically just giving up but pretending like they aren't.
>>639934
Okay? That does not change what I said.
| Everyone is talking about transhpobia and shit but I am much more concerned with the fact that this mf would kill himself over a different voice. There are definitely issues there much deeper and concerning than feeling like he's in a wrong body.
Which is what I generally spot with these cases on danger/u/, people who have highly unstable mental state and could resort to self harm over a broken nail. No disrespect, really, but there's a different layer of issues, imo.
| >>639994
Depression can easily make you get this upset over things like that, and especially since it relates to the source of her depression and insecurities, which is being trans. It makes sense. It's not just the voice that's the problem here, but I guess it's more what the voice is representative of.
| there's no such thing as 'trans'
| OP is Momoka.
Just fucking die already Momoka. You're a living abortion fetus and I'm not even saying that because you're trans.
| >>8d4cc3 stds? st-please! i'm a white person i don't get aids! you get aids! not for me! just ask... freddie mercury!
| i still hate el gee bibbay but i'm on the team of anyone who is suffering.
fuck suffering!
or maybe fuck while suffering if you're into that idk
| Yeah yeah yeah, your life is bad, you're suffering, you're a trap and want to suicide. Nobody here fucking cares what will you do with yourself because we are not your friends.
| >>640028
Depression suicide does not make you complain on obscure internet sites, you just contemplate ways to kill yourself while going through the motions of everyday life.
>t. Experience
| >>640832
You gotta understand that 4chan anons are always correct and care about nothing more than attention.
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| I'm mtf trans and No matter what I do it's not getting any better or more feminine sounding!!! And I'm honestly thinking about killing myself because of it