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There are only 2 genders.
| So are traps gay then or nay?
| There is only 1 gender.
| Good to know that op has a brain
| Why do you care so much about something that doesn't affect you in the slightest? Transgender people aren't some evil SJW boogeyman that want to destroy western civilization, and I say that as someone who used to believe that.
| >>400629 i believe that transgender people need medical attention cause something in their brain doesn't work fine
| >>400629 you say that but at the same time the are trying to force society to bend to the shit that they want
| >>400632 What if I told you that was the same argument conversion therapists used against gay people fifteen years ago? And mainstream psychologists against uppity women in the 19th century? The flaw in this approach is that it just forces the patient to abide by social mores rather than improving their mental health.
| >>400638 As a transgender person myself, I find the concept of explicit genders to be pretty pointless. People should have complete freedom to express themselves however they're comfortable, without judgement or discrimination.
>>400645 Literally all you have to do to make a trans person happy is call them by a new name. Even children can understand this. Is that too much to ask of you?
| Just checking, you do know sex, gender, and sexual orientation are different, right? I never even knew back when I was a /pol/ack.
>>400647 meant for>>400642
| >>400650 Not really? Sex is your physical parts, but gender is how you choose to be present yourself to others. Again, all that means for you is calling them by their preferred name.
| the bait is real
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| What about the best gender, Gold Knight?
| >>400647
transgender doesn't even mean anything. you're probably just a dude in a dress.
they're mentally ill, and it shows in the suicide statistics.
look up gender dysphoria
>>400647
you'll never catch me saying that 2+2=5
| Pictured: the 2 genders.
https://i.redd.it/01f84u87jhd01.jpg
| >>400657 my gender identity is amorphous blob
>>400663 you're equivocating; learn what "the other side" means when they use these words at the very least if you want anyone to think you're being constructive
| >>400663
I'm sure those suicide rates have nothing to do with the absurd amount of hate and abuse trans people experience
| >>400710
i'm sure suicide rates of the mentally ill have nothing to do with the absurd amount of hate and abuse they experience
>>400706
you're still a dude in a dress, i don't need to live you to know that.
| >>400712 you sure seem to have a warm and holistic view of mentally ill people, which would be around 1/5 people in the US. Surely you agree that the best course of action to minimize harm is to let trans people transition? http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/827713 https://www.psyneuen-journal.com/article/S0306-4530(11)00262-9/fulltext etc
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The intent prolly wasn't demented
but "gender" is an idea we invented
Across time and cultures, gender is fluid
these narrow ideas need to be disputed
But small-minded people argue this construct
Making a simple thing a cluster fuck
-Rapgurl
| OP a shit
| >>400815 gender and sex is the same thing. People like you just want it to have different meaning.
| >>400826
Lolololololol
Man, how can you even function in life while being so myopic? Sex is based on the expression of chromosomes (look it up) but gender is a social idea that humans invented. Spend some time on Google and see for yourself that gender ideas and roles are as varied as the cultures we've created over the millennia. If gender was hardwired, we would not find the variety that exists.
Take time, educate yourself.
| >>400829
We follow what we believe and what works, making exceptions for the few just inconveniences the many. I get the idea, I get that people want to be special, or want some way to fit with what they view as themselves, but you can't change what you are no matter how hard you try. Own up, learn to love who and what you are, and don't hide from the truth, it always catches up to you in the end.
| >>400829
Gender and sex is the same fucking thing.
You're born with a dick? Then you're a man
You're born with a twat? Then you're a woman.
Why are you people inventing other genders?
| >>400829
>(((google)))
>U N E D U C A T E D
>leftie's arrogance implying you're way better at life and wise and stuff
stop politicizing everything, srop acting like you're the boss.
also, proofs ?
>>400840
i disagree, Man and Woman are merited titles !
| i can't take this thread seriously.
clearly it's two people trying to out-bait each other.
| Not even all cisexual, heterosexual men are the same fucking gender, nevermind how much some of them want to pound their chests and bare their teeth about it.
Genders are packages of mate-seeking, mate-retention and general social interaction strategies; they aren't monolithic, and they aren't necessarily stable unless purposefully enforced.
| So imma try to chime in with reason.
Gender is historically used to refer to something either with masculinine or feminine characteristics. This is where the definitions divife.
Constructivists basically considers the word synonymous with sex, which defines someone with what sexual/physical characteristic they have.
Essentialists diverge further, ignoring traditional gender roles. Instead, they consider gender as someone's most defining characteristic.
| In other words, they're both wrong. Gender is just a way to describe something with masculine or feminine words. As time goes on, some things become either more or less men or women oriented, or even unisex. Even inanimate objects can have genders.
For example, British ships are refered to with feminine pronouns because the male sailors that board the ships tend to stay for so long from their wives that they are essentially married to the ship. And so ships are refered to as female
| >>400826
According to your logic, Klinefelters have all the right in the world to be girly guys.
>>400638
Some are.
>>400642
Not beating up or ostracizing someone because they don't wear *what you think they should* isn't "society bending to their shit" it's just not acting like goddamn barbarians.
>>400728
If you put a cis person through HRT of the type they'd never produce naturally, they get worse. If you put a trans person through the same they get better.
| >>400840
http://www.pbs.org/independentlens/content/two-spirits_map-html/
Yeah, I wonder why.
But that's not the real question.
The real question is why some cultures (such as those built around abrahamic religions, but not only them) are hellbent on suppressing them.
And the real answer is that if 3rd, 4th, Nth genders were accepted, the people that might fit them might amount to something in life instead of just failing or becoming an hero under cissexual standards.
| Three
Man, woman and idiots
| >>401213
>1,000 years from now there will be no guys and no girls, just wankers. Sounds great to me.
>Mark Renton
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