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Do y'all support transgender people? Why/why not?
| I support trans rights and people finding their gender identity. I am also a trans women so colour me bias and dip me in sassafras extract.
| Nope, my religion doesn't allow me
| No, they already have more rights than normal people.
| Going under a scalpel selfish whims is almost always a terrible idea.
More so if you can't reverse it.
| Yes because people treat them like shit, call them psychotic, disabled, retarded, beat them up, rape them, etc. for no good reason. At best their argument is "it's against my religion."
Is it against your religion to not leave people out of your religion the fuck alone? Usually they don't even have a reason. They just irrationally think trans people are icky, or that somehow being transgender makes you a sexual preditor?
So yeah. They could really use the support.
| Yes, because they're people, just like me, AND they aren't doing anything bad or wrong. If they're happy like that it's okay.
| Yes. Not my problem how other people want to present themselves, and gender is stupid anyway.
| I support them, because that's the nice thing to do. They don't deserve my hate just for their life choices, and I would hope they treat me and others the same.
| If you have a penis then you are a guy
If you have a vigina then you are a girl
There is no need to give the a special name
| >>371314
im against normalizing it as a way to avoid gender roles. I believe it is a mental illness that has been normalized to the point of it making changes on the legal system in many countries.
transgender people and all their derivatives are mentally ill, nothing more, nothing less. We should help them get along with life? Yes but don't expect me to change the way I see you just so you can feel better about yourself
| Transgender shouldn't be a thing
If you have a penis and look like a man then you are a man
if you have a vigina and look like a woman you are a woman
If you have a penis and look like a woman then you are still a fucking man
If you have a vigina and look like a man then you are still a fucking woman
| >>371449
not precisely, i mean, if the way you "perceive" yourself doesn't fit what you are and you try to justify it by any means possible and try to make others think the same as you just for your own sake how is that not mental illness??
| I don't really care about trans people, because I don't think I've seen even one of them IRL, but I'm fine with them, though I wouldn't go much out of my way to "support" them as a group.
>>371449 Well, dysphoria does some fucked up things, you can probably count it as a mental illness.
| No, i don't support them. The world has bigger problems than some fucked up people that can't accept the gender they were born with. I think learning to love yourself is sometimes a hard process, even for me, but it's something that forms your character and makes you strong. Trying to escape your own body by surgery is not a solution.
| i support trans people fully but this thread is gonna go to shit real quick so i'm just gonna unwatch right now
| Doesn't affect me. Let them do what they want. Same reason I don't try to burn down churches, sinnogaugs and mosques. Even though being wiccan I have reason to you fucking genocidal monsters.
| I don't support them and I don't hate them. They can do whatever the heck they want with their body and money, it's not like it affects me in any way.
| >>371677
So you mean they're not affecting media? Well surprise they actually do. "I don't care" argument was ok in 2000s but not now. Now liberals are telling everyone what to do and what is wrong, despite most of them being total degenerates.
| Yes. I know and care about too many trans folks to ignore them getting killed, denied rights given to most people, raped, etc. According to the WHO, being transgender is not a mental disorder, and religion is supposed to teach love and acceptance, even for things not understood. Theres no excuse.
| >>371698 Oh god now someone can't even have a neutral opinion without being sucked into an argument about the 'assault on western culture.'
| Yes cause they have feelings too
| I'm pretty neutral about the whole thing. I just treat them like I would any other person and leave it at that.
| >>371314
I don't believe it's the right way to fight gender roles.
I believe in radical feminism and in the abolishment of gender roles.
They should be like fuckin astrology signs, ya might be a genetical g/u/rl but nobody cares, nobody judges you for it or treats you different. You will still have a genetic sex but not the social repercussions of a gender.
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| But I don't care if someone transitions. I have thought about it myself.
I just don't like being excluded for discussion for having a seemingly different race or gender or sexual orientation.
And I believe in (sometimes) direct conversion. Like don't just call me transphobic for having a different opinions than you. I don't want to ban transitions or kill trans ppl.
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>>371802 >>371314
| I support bashing the fash but y'all can still talk with em sometimes in private sometimes. But ya can't just talk with liberals when you have a different opinion than them tho. They will just fight you and call you hurtful names. No wonder non political centrists call themselves the alt right now lmao
--commie g/u/rl over--
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>>371814 >>371314
| I support trans people, to the same degree that I would support anyone going though a major life change.
I also don't understand why so many in the LGBT "community" essentially hate trans people and often ban them from their "inclusive events".
I'm sure there was a better way to put that, that sounded less patronising but I don't really care about it.
| >>371830
I'm not the g/u/rl you're asking, but yeah it can be like that.
In the same way that LGBT want to remove Bi's because it might imply there's only 2 genders, and if they were real LGBT'ers they would go Pan.
| idea: transsex people are not mentally ill, but have a brain defect from development before birth. The brain defect is not well understood and can't be fixed currently, so the current solution is to modify the body to lessen symptoms.
| Ok look. I'm a trans girl, and being trans IS a mental illness. It caused dysphoria, depression, a constant feeling of self hatred and not fitting in, etc. The cure is to transition. We don't do it to abolish gender roles, we do it to survive without wanting to kill ourselves, or break down crying in the shower (both of which are frequent occurances for me). Men's brains have slightly more get matter, and women have slightly more white matter. When we are in the womb, we received
| >>371871 irregular hormone levels, it's almost like a birth defect. You can scan the brain of a trans person, and 90% of the time it will look like the brain of the sex they are identifying as. Gender fluid people have brains somewhere in the middle. It's a real problem, it hurts so much to be trapped inside your own body, I have come so close to killing myself because of it, and still do sometimes because of people having misinformed opinions on us and what we are.
| Please don't hate me
| >>371875 so to get this straight: you were born as a man but bc of a brain malfunction you thought of yourself as a woman trapped in a mans body?
| >>371876 ... sort of. Yiu can think of it like having the wrong software for my hardware. My brain expects me to have breasts and a vagina and a feminine figure and face and a high voice, and so when it doesn't see that, it assumes something is wrong. If I could stop being what I am, believe me, I would. It's been nothing but an inconvenience.
| >>371314
Dude you can be anything you want, even an attack helicopter, doesn't mean me or anyone else has to find you attractive though
| >>371889 actually, at the moment I haven't even started to transition. My parents are conservative Christians, they would literally kick me out of the house or kill me if they knew
| I wish I could get it though
| >>371698
Yeah, maybe they affect media, and I see scandals about it all the time, but I still don't consider it to be impactful enough to fret over it. It's a new fad, extreme tolerance in media. 10 years later it'll either be a normal part of the society or it'll die down. I'm ok with both as long as they don't make me transition or some shit.
| >>371892 how old are you? Could just be puberty fucking with your brain. Does it matter what you are? What are your goals in life, and how does your gender affect that in any way?
| >>371898 im almost 18, and my goals are to start a game studio. My gender effects that because i can't start a business if I already killed myself.
| >>371922 it's the dysphoria that makes me want to die, not my gender. If I could be a normal boy I absolutely would but it's not a choice. You should do a little research on dysphoria, I'm bad at explaining it
| >>371917 start a gamestudio as a man then. Why do you want to kill yourself? Just because you got a penis? You cant blame some brain malfunction on that. Im also feeling uncomfortable, some times less, some times worse. These things happen. That's what makes us human.
| >>371836 lgbt community never wanted to remove by folks, that was just a dumb 4chan campaign fucking us over again
| >>371932 you don't get it, i don't think you understand what dysphoria is or does. I have tried to get through it, and some days it works, and others I break down crying. I don't want to be unhappy for the rest of my life, and I don't want to die
| >>371946 I don't know if a stranger's words hold any merit to you, but please know that you are important as a human being. Even if at times it'll seem like the world is against you, there surely are people who would want to be your friends. Please go into the future, wahtever it might bring, with optimism and hope for happiness.
| My I'd keeps changing smh
| >>371946 you diagnosed yourself with this made-up illness. I just read through the wikipedia article. I also found this study:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21364939
| I don't support them transitioning, because I've seen evidence that it does not improve the QoL for most of them, and so I think gender dysphoria is a symptom of other poorly understood mental issues.
| This thread gave me cancer.
| >>371723
Yes. Liberals are ruining everything I like (star wars for example) and blaming me for being wrong/sexist/biased/stupid. They have real impact on gov/society so they're forcing their sick agendas down everyones throat.
| Liberals ruin everything reeeeee
| I'm not one, and the few I met were nice
| Why the fuck would I accept a trans if they couldnt even accept themselves.
I dont hate them, I just find it terribly ironic.
| >>372178 let's say someone has a stab wound. They hate the stab wound, so they're going to have a medical procedure to fix it. They can't accept a stab wound in their body. But wait, Why should you accept them if they can't even accept themselves?! That's basically your logic. Something is wrong with their bodies, and they are changing it for the better. We should love and help these people, not hate them.
| >372178 well by that logic you wouldn't accept someone exercising to lose weight, or getting therapy to over come crippling depression... people not "accepting" themselves is the basis for most if not all personal change. Regardless, trans people are still people and deserve the same respect and decency as anyone else. Its called being a decent human.
| Some people legit grow a female brain in a male body or vice versa. In the womb we all start as female. The brain and body develop independently at the same time. I can't imagine what it feels like.
My problem are the people who put on a lady's hat because sometimes they feel they have nuts, sometimes they don't. All to be "trendy" and "included".
| Yes because I need more traps to bareback.
| Not every trans person has body dysphoria. Some people just are more comfortable presenting differently than the gender they were assigned based on their genitals, which is still perfectly legitimate and nobody else's business.
| To: every trans person
From: me
https://twinfinite.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/professor-oak-boy-or-girl.jpg
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| >>372422 and this ladies it's what we call a chaser, a bad one too since no chaser will call transgirl a trap.
>>372543 crossdresser are different, crossdresser dress as woman from time to time whereas transgils live as one.
What I'm trying to say is, it's rude to call someone a crossdresser if they aren't one.
| >>372334
This is the dumbest thing i read all year,you are born as either male or female sex. Then based on your life experiences/likes/dislikes you will define your gender
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| Seen a couple of transphobic comments here, just wondering the majority opinion