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Do you believe in God?
| God is gay
| Elaborate on that
| Do I? Do I? Do I?
Hell if I know anymore.
| I believe there are too many definitions for what a God is to have a straight answer.
| I don't believe and I think mankind should move on and discontinue believing in such backwards cults.
| You're dealing with something so vague it can't be proven to exist or not. Which would hardly be an issue. You can't prove feelings or ideas but that doesn't make them nothing. When you try to say it's supernatural, as in capable of suspending the laws of nature, it can be proven, and so far nothing has demonstrated that ability. I suppose that's the philosophy behind deism, I just take it one step further.
| I believe in God, although at times i feel like it would be easier to blame bad luck for bad things happening. It's just something that's always felt true to me, even though i used to reject it. I think faith varies from person to person and finding one's individual truth is what matters. I'm also lightweight retarded though.
| I do not.
| Madoka ? Haruhi ? Indomie ?
| My waifu is my goddess
| Yes. It's a fundamentally irrational system of thought, but the only rational system of thought is nihilism, and I'd rather not be a nihilist.
| If a god created us, it doesn't matter. We have taken 'his' place. I believe in "godliness" through technology. With technology, we have gained the ability to heal, not only others, but our selves as well. Not only heal, but even upgrade. We have gained the ability to create entire worlds, and populate them with life. These worlds and lifeforms may not hold the same value to us as "natural" or "organic" lifeforms, but what difference is there, really?
| I believe I'm god
| I LOOK AT GOD TODAY..AND HE LOOKED ALOT LIKE ME
| You are God.
| no
| Im not even gonne start on that
| As a man which sits on the throne in the heaven - no. But as energy or smth which caused big bang - yes.
| >>307550
There is no time outside the universe. It is literally ALL of space and time. Nothing outside of a universe can affect it in a way measurable as outside time.
Since anything before the universe existed would also be outside it, there's no "before" the beginning of the universe. Cause and effect do not apply in the normal sense! What we have is an illusion of cause because our brains expect one. Best explanation is the condition of a universe not existing.
| >>307558
If you want to say energy caused the big bang, the only available energy is zero point. It's what happens when you isolate space from all physical forces. A natural phenomenon is not a god. In fact the whole idea of godhood is power to create and suspend natural laws. It's something no amount of vacuum energy can do.
| >>306252 you have to believe in what you think is the closest to the truth, not what is the more comfortable thought to live with.
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| If there is a god, then I want my vengeance against it
| suwako from touhou is my god.
| There might be some entity, but I'm sure it just spectates
| I wish he would say hi once in awhile that fcker.
| I mean, not really. If there is a god, he is playing dice with my life, and it seems he's been getting very lucky.
| >>305496
>You can't prove feelings or ideas
Well that's just blatantly false. There's a number of measurable, physiological changes that occur in the body which are tied to specific emotions. And I don't even know where to begin with the notion that we can't prove ideas. Do you mean thoughts? Because alternatively "I have an idea. Let's test it," is literally the core of the scientific method that you should have been taught in grade school.
| I rather not think about it, likeif there is one then he clearly don't like us cause if he did then he wouldn't ley war and famine run rampart, also I would clearly go to hell if there is one since the last time I went to a church was when I was sightseeing a cathedral.
And hell seem pretty pointless, since you have all eternity there then you'll eventually will get used to it, and maybe even escape, who's gonna stop you if you already got used to every punishment?
| Well you can't really escape a boiling pot if the lid is there. Supposedly you can't also break it. The sufferings of hell are believed to be inescapable and impossible to get used to. Still buddhism is better since there you reach nirvana or just keep reincarnating which ain't so bad at all. You should believe in god without following any particular religion. Just see your ideals and him. The thought of some gentle existence watching everything can be calming I would reckon.
| >>309766
You can't observe someone else's feelings the way you experience your own. It is sensation. You're talking about a measuring a response and a stimulus, which isn't the same.
Ideas can be anything. How do you objectively test for justice, for example? It cannot be proven or disproven in a scientific sense. It doesn't need to be either.
And good scientific theory had an entire philosophy behind it. Critical thinking is so much more than "hey I got an idea. Let's test it."
| >>310474
Your arguments are specious and bordering on solipism. I can absolutely observe others' feelings and while I undoubtedly experience them slightly different based on my physiology and past experiences, based on my observations and their descriptions we can come to a common understanding of the general concept of how they are feeling. When someone says they are sad or angry we understand what that means even if the degree to which they experience it is subjective.
| Wasn't the point being "I can't prove I'm not the only conscious being"?
| Should it matter?
| >>310520
The fact we're even having this discussion means you haven't killed yourself yet, intentionally or accidently. That leads me to think you don't actually believe this entire world is just some kind of fever dream. So, while the idea of solipism is interesting it's nothing more than a waste of time.
| >>310519
Whoa! At this point no serious arguments, I'm not arguing whatever it is you think I am, just trying to communicate! I'll try again. I will try to explain where I am coming from.
What if I say "wrongness exists"? As in it's possible to be wrong. Easily demonstrated, right? Error is an idea. A specific error is measurable, but if you don't think mistakes are possible, you just see a difference.
Or try this: you can calculate without having to measure any specific thing.
| >>310563
There are no math particles anywhere in the universe. Still you'd have to be out of your goddamn mind to say math doesn't exist.
| >>310570
I get that abstract concepts can exist without being tied to a physical object, I'm just confused about where you're going with it. Saying abstract concepts exist without evidence can be extrapolated to the ontological argument that a thing exists mearly because we've described it, ie. Unicorns must exist because otherwise we wouldn't have a word for them. Clearly that's absurd but I was literally given that "proof" for why God must exist (specifically the Christian one)
| >>310579
Wait what?? I'm sure didn't give you that proof!! I'm the one saying you can't quantify or qualify the abstract, so you can't provide evidence! Did you get to the part where I said God ISN'T one of those things? That's where I went with it! I said God is a supernatural being, for which there is NO evidence. So not an idea, and not a proven claim. What's left? How about fiction.
| >>310589
Ah, gotcha. No, you didn't say that, but I've heard what you're saying used by a lot of theists as "proof" of God's existence. I was sent to a Christian high school when I was younger and was literally taught this as part of the lesson plan of a forced class on apologetics. It looked to me like you were arguing two different, opposite concepts which was confusing me. I was like, "The fuck is this douche going on about." Guess I'm the one who came off like an asshole, lol.
| >>310595
What I didn't do was elaborate. Somewhere I forgot to say God stops being abstract the moment he starts judging people, sending them to afterlifes, and answering prayers.
| I believe that inside each of us is a spark of divine power, the infinity of soul, and that we should seek the god within ourself, not the god without.
| Hell no. But I believe that we are all the universe and share a universal conciousness.
| Heavens, no. Do I look like some sort of backwoods redneck to you?
| We are God.
| yea but i'm tired of reading all these fanfictions of Them
| As a socially and biologically predominant salaryman I don't have a reason to cling to God.
| Yes, All praise be to Allah.
| anatomically* whatever
| Good is Jesus
| Im atheist and aesthetics so i don't trust xd
But i trust in ghosts and super-natural.. kinda weird that?
| If there is a god he must be an evil man. I dont get why people pray to god. Take a look at the state of the world and then tell me there is a god up there who is almighty
| Read out of the bible, and tell me what you'd call summoning a flood that wipes out everything besides some guy in an arc and a bunch of animals?
| Any religion what make Religions War is bad
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