Why do women hate being reminded that they are women?
| And then you see women online saying the word female is a red flag. I just do not get it
| Because they want to be other things. To be a thing is to have your nature defined. To be a woman is to be ripped out of what you were doing and put into a role without passion or dreams. Sure, during sex or smth it might be erotic, but going for a bicycle ride and feeling the air and your legs and then suddenly being made a ‘WOMAN cyclist’ is like being a bird put in a cage.
| I like to use people of femininity/ people of masculinity and only think of woman as a purely reproductive happenstance for medical situations. I don’t think of people as women, I just think ‘oh they’re being too feminine and socially compliant’ or ‘oh they’re being too masculine and aggressive.’
| >>1055730
Calling women "females" is a common incel thing, that's probably why women consider it a red flag. No idea why you'd be bothered by being called "ma'am" though.
| I think with the baggage thing they knew they were weaker and worse w baggage than the more male ppl and being helped was already a humiliating reminder, but being helped as a woman says they ought to play the role of a woman in exchange, having sex with some disgusting guy or going through the pain of childbirth or displaying their body as someone else’s accessory.
| >>1055736
Old meaning lack of capability and ability to change and define yourself, and having sexed adult responsibilities I bet subconsciously.
As for why feminine ppl hate incels, they hate being put in a position where they are unwanted outsider enemies without power. But ironically they do the same to incels due to their bodies and masculinized personality traits. I hate sex it isn’t fun!
| women subconsciously know their meaning as inferior to men, and reminding them of being women is like reminding a jew he will never amount to nothing better than being a jew
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Please call me a good gurl…
I think a lot of Jews are upset at being called inferior and excluded but actually do see themselves as superior, and it’s not a facade or whatever. I think many women sort of think of themselves as superior but also inferior. But also being called a woman by a man makes them feel inferior
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| >>1055732 I'm not OP but that sounds weird to me as well. A person comfortable in their gender would not (or shouldn't) feel like their gender is a cage. That sounds... like women are somewhat dysphoric? Or that they have not accepted their way to be their gender?
>>1055742 I love agps, they deserve to be called good gurls
| >>1055744
I think it’s like accepting slavery to be comfortable in your gender. Like people will say ‘you have to learn to love’ god, or how the other sex disrespects them. It’s like the death of the inner spirit and becoming a soulless cattle. I guess it’s like giving up on the future for just a temporary end to pain. Yes having the men load the bag will be easier, but what will they have left of themselves, how will they feel about next time they want to load a bag?
| Everything will always be gendered and by accepting gender you let half the world be closed to you. And I think both parts are vital for living. I want to touch and be touched. I want to work as an expert, and be helped by those who care about me. But as a man or a woman, you are directed towards one. And doing the other is like doublespeak- no one knows if at any time you’ll go back to your gender’s way of doing things. So you can never be trusted or be a peer.
| There is no ‘your way to be your gender’ because ‘your’ gender is not your property, it belongs to society, it’s a mark they put on you of what to expect from you, derived generally from a mark evolution put on you to make you serve it as well. Sure, it can be fun for a time, but eventually you decide to do something it does not permit, and then the cage appears.
| >Every thread on this board gets 0 on topic replies no matter the topic
>Suddenly an incel topic comes up and "everyone" all agrees with OP with walls of texts that all sound the same.
>Our resident incel poster got really upset after being called out samefagging the other day
OP is a spiteful samefag trying to sway the board into becoming a loser echo chamber. He's been trying on and off for ages but haven't succeded and never will. STOP FEEDING THE TROLLS.
| It takes days for threads to reach the point count that this thread got within 5 minutes lmao
| https://dangeru.us/u/thread/1054999
Same OP is same
| >>1055753
I didn’t make the old one, nor this one I think there are 2 or 3 posters here you don’t like. You could still be in the majority! And as you can see, I make lots of posts, but from the same IP.
I object to your anti loser speech. I am a loser, at least at this point in my life. Probably so is OP, perhaps you are, I can’t say. But these topics are importantly to us because of our experiences as losers, and I think trying to forget our experiences is bad.
| I do agree that conversation should be productive, but I note you tend to shut these down with ‘that’s what an ugly person would say, that’s what an unpopular person would say, that’s what a hated person would say’ not with the mechanism by which the words are damaging, and a proposal for something better. That’s an exhausting level to hold you to, I don’t expect you to meet it, but I think it’s what is needed. The problem is implementing it.
| And then I suppose it shouldn’t just be a proposal for better huh? It should be enforced with speech and attacks on detractors, which leads back to you being kinda right, but while your tactics are good, your mindset of ‘let’s all just pretend we’re all super successful’ isn’t really useful imo
| >>1055759 why are you wasting time psychoanalyzing a histrionic nigger. if he wanted to be better he'd learn to do it himself
| What you’re saying is no different than when you’re called a woman. You’re putting them in a box they can’t escape from where they’re unloved. It’s an act of cruelty. It demeans you too to act with unneeded cruelty. People aren’t born with fixed desires, we have to only eliminate people as threats when absolutely necessary, and otherwise punish them with hatred only towards the bad within them, but with a shared sense of progress and love. Like a good parent.
| They have seen posts which hurt them and make them feel powerless. Of course they’re lashing out to have, if a fellow loser they are, one of the few places they have power warped against them. We should be acting as sisters, because this is /u/ after all. Please apologize for using such language, and propose something we can do for the issues I’ve brought up because I can’t think of anything, or engage with my posts on the prison of gender.
| >You’re putting them in a box they can’t escape from where they’re unloved
being here is indicative of someone having boxed themselves, either by their environment (being born to the wrong parents, i suppose) or through their own ignorant actions taken during their upbringing. these may be excusable, as children have no real agency, but adults certainly do and ought to act appropriately to rectify their station in life.
| you may be a better person in reaching out to them, but we had solutions for problems like these before, one of their names is daksa
| I’m only a better person if it translates to results. Otherwise I’m harming myself and those I could have helped instead.
I totally disagree about children and adults. Adults may be worse at changing, but no one exists just to be tormented by patterns of behavior the world put into them. Would you like your Mind to be changed into a bad one and then to live in a hell of ‘you own’ making because it’s ‘your’ responsibility to change?
| i'm not preaching a religion i don't follow, sister. why the fuck do you think i post here?
| Because they are retarded
| >>1055749 ok you have convinced me, I say, let people be free! Let people live how they want to live! Let people love whoever they want to love!
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| because they have advantage in society and they don't like being reminded about that
| >>1055823
They make less money though and have more suicide attempts though they don’t complete. They’re not shining gods by any means. Also one thing I like to think is ‘the hardest thing anyone has ever experienced is the hardest thing THEY have ever experienced.’ Sheltered spoiled people’s suffering is valid, it’s just important to care about everyone else too and not continue unjust oppression.
| I generally don’t interact with women because they’ve looked down on my values and dreams and me, and I think a lot of the ‘respect women’ type stuff is part of their advantages and distance/psychological harm towards me when I interact with them and they treat me as stupid and lesser and to be held apart, and I won’t ignore that and go ‘haha they’re equal but just the bad ways they’re different should be ignored, and the good ways they’re different aren’t something to imitate’
| >>1055766
I don’t understand this post. You do have some beliefs right? What do you want? Why are you here? I like to feel smart n cutes n real.
>>1055770
Expand on this please. I think the main issue is they want to conform more, so they don’t take their ideas as seriously. Disagreeableness is said to be correlated with genius , but the greatest minds have said it’s mostly ‘perspiration’ not inspiration. I think that’s one message! Being too pliant makes u dumb.
| But ironically hurting people’s self esteem and boxing them in as women says ‘you should be pliant!’ I think women often are dumb but you’re making them worse through saying they are dumb for being women, rather than elements of femininity are partially poisoning them, but they are more than one trait.
And then happy successful people of femininity I know often do enjoy boyfriends and feeling attractive though they’re below average in femininity.
| >>1055861
>I think women often are dumb but you’re making them worse through saying they are dumb for being women,
*facepalm*
| >>1055994
no it is a paradox ur right but like u can't just ignore it u know? people say 'oh the genders are just different boys often like $ThingWhichTranslatesToJobSkills and girls don't and that's ok' but no, it's not ok. if your body and gender make you comparatively poor and powerless that's actually really bad. i think people are responding to short term incentives in ignoring it, because they understand thinking about it doesn't help.
| but it's not good to lie to yourself all the time.
I think people should probably try to fight gender therefore and not be women or men so much as they can, since so much bad stuff sneaks along for the ride and is dismissed, like boys learning how computers work and having more confidence, and being violent. but i get people need to feel happy too, and stealing the happiness of people already suffering by taking their gender euphoria makes things worse.
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| I don't mean in the funny "haha kitchen" bullshit or any other derogatory way I mean, saying mam for example. I went to an industry class where our main speaker a woman in 40s told a story of how she felt humiliated, and it was where 2 young dudes offered her help when she was struggling to put her suitcase in an overhead compartment but she was stuck on the fact they ask " do you need any help MAM" and when she said that so many other women all groaned. I don't get it