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A few questions about pc
| >dem
>thicc
Okay then, off to a good start.
Theoretically, yes, if your motherboard supports PCIe (which, yeah it should), you can slap a graphics card in. The only limitations I see is with CPU, since they often have different sockets for each iterations of microarchitecture. PCIe is much more universal though, so it should work.
>10series gc nwed witch pci port
"PCI port"? Uh.. Use the PCIe instead?
>16 pin
You're mixing things up here.
| Yeah me don't know ty me now know to just use pcie
| /burg/
| Watta about ram what is better?
2 4gb rams that aren't the same brand or 2 same 4gb rams or a 8gb ram?
| >>93813
In order of recommendation:
Same dual-channel (same brand, two RAMs) > Single channel (one RAM) > Mixed dual-channel (different brand, two RAMs)
| Uhhh... Don't mind the formatting. Basically, always get same dual-channel if you can.
| Ty hny ;P I'll be away for a while running out of data but will be back in a few days if me got quests for you. • × •
| tried this myself for a project a few years back but you're much better off just building your own pc from scratch
prebuilts are overpriced and picking apart the computer to get the parts you want to use in a new case will require complete disassembly so it's easier and cheaper to just buy the parts on their own
if you don't know what parts you need and what is compatible go yo pc part picker it's a good website
| you can but there's a reason nobody does
| Yeah I would like to save the money ;P but I want to get this over and done with. So I'm going to look for a off lease one but will see if it's going to be worth it. Will upgrade it with the extra ca-ching leftover. (BTW i live in nz)
>>57dcec
What about radiators? Use for and do I need one? Pros and cons?
| >>822499
I want to build from scratch. Money, research, time, preparation,etc. They are not on my side right and I wish I had more of them (especially money $$), you know.
Thanks for recommending me to do the diy way tho XD
| Nvm I'm not interested in water cooling and radiators for now •-•
| personally i always reccomended fan cooling with 0 decibel fans they're cheaper easier to install and more reliable than water cooling only use water cooling if you plan on overclocking which if you're a novice probably isn't worth it
| if you do plan on doing it as you've said i would reccomend choosing a prebuilt pc based off of the motherboard and cpu
if cash is an issue avoid aany prebuilt with a grphics card and then just buy one yourself also be careful companies try to trick you with ram as a computer engineer ram is one of the only parts i can reccomend buying used and you can get 16gbs for $50 on ebay
| Oooo nice ty for the help this is really helpful ty I will keep an eye out for cheap as chips ram ♡
| I'm aiming for one 8gb ddr3 ram stick minimum for now. I assume you're in the USA or something cause price. I think USA money is worth more. It's like roughly ×2 I think. Post some links if you remember seeing some cheap ones and I will use them as a base price if I see any cheaper I will probably go for the cheapest ones.
And yeah already looking for some gc. Have some in my mind.
Never thought I'd talk to a computer engineer.
| Is life tough as an pc engineer? Are you a young engineer (or are you married ;)? (You dont need to answer these questions cause i dont want to ask you personal things.)Thanks everyone (it's only like 2 people but I think you've done a wonderful job that people don't need to step in (unless they want)) for sharing your knowledge pc I really appreciate.
| Researching what I want is pretty good. It takes a lot of time and it could've been easier asking someone to build something with a certain budget range. But it was worth it to learn about computers and know how things work and stuff like that. I feel like 2018 is going to be a great year. Found this app but I really like this and I've learnt so much about pc recently. I'm sorry if I repeated a lot of things but I'm so happy I can't stop.jk imma go sleep now hf reading
| Incoming ram side quests:
•Is 3 ram sticks good?
•Is 3 ram sticks better than 2 or 1 ram stick?
•If 3 ram sticks require some tweaking and stuff?
| ok i will try to answer the questions in the order you asked them being a computer engineer is mostly easy and dull with difficult challenges happening sometimes usually in debugging wgen you least expect them
I am a recent graduate but a longtime hobbyist and pc gamer
3 sticks of ram is actually not ideal you want to have an even number of sticks of ram because the slot on your motherboard are usally paired in with each other so i reccomend using 2 or 4 sticks of ram
| >>96908
If you can, ALWAYS go for even-numered RAM. 2, 4, 6, 8. Three can cause instability, and as far as I know, the motherboard doesn't treat the three RAM as "one group of RAM" (like it does with dual-channel/two RAM), the motherboard will instead treat them as "one RAM, another one RAM, and another one RAM."
| not that you can't use 4 sticks of ram they will work perfectly fine it just won't have maximal optimisation for your system
tldr even numbers are more efficent but odd numbers will work fine too
an example is say you have 3 sticks of ram that are 4 gigabytes the system might only use 15.8 gb or start to struggle as it reached the upper limit if you had 4 sticks if ram with 3gb of memory th it would be more like 15.85gb worth of usable space and it would be less prone to errors
| so not s huge difference but worth saying because ram is usually cheaper to get in multiple smaller sticks anyway
| >>97223
Uhm.. you can perfectly use 4 sticks of RAM. It's much better to do a: 4x4x2x2 (12 GB) compared to: 4x4x4 (12 as well).
But I guess that was a typo?
| also yes i do live in the USA but in college more than half of my classmates were from other countries mostly china and saudia arabia
as far as buying parts goes pc parts go way down in value overtime and often go on sale you can probably find whatever parts you are interested in on newegg or amazon or any other pc part store
>it is very important to make sure your parts are compatible though
that can be hard so this site will check for you https://pcpartpicker.com/list/
| just select the parts you're planning to use before you buy them then you can check if they will work together or not
| Rip I can't find cpu rip
| Btw Can you list which pc parts are important? From most important to not so important.
Also if you want to save money or went over budget, can you also list which pc components should be removed or downgraded first?
| I Just rmemeber thair is no edit buton so bare with me and my misteaks ^ □ ^
| >>97319
From important to less important:
- PSU
- Case with proper cooling
- Cooling solutions (doesn't have to be liquid, something like an Hyper 212 Evo should do you well)
- CPU
- GPU
- RAM
- Motherboard
If you don't plan on overclocking (and you're going for Intel-based system), you can use an H-series or B-series (instead of X-series) motherboard.
I put cooling and PSU on the top because you want system stability first before any kind of extreme performance.
| SSD and HDD is somewhere around there as well. But these are largely dependant on your usage: if space is all you need then go for a 1/2 TB HDD. If speed is your concern, then get a 256 GB/480 GB SSD.
You can mix both SSD and HDD, of course. My old setup had 500 GB HDD and 480 GB SSD, and it works brilliantly.
| if i were to rate importance from most important to least important i would say
-motherboard
-cpu
-gpu
-ram
-psu
-case
-fans
things i would downgrade if i was on a budget depends on the purpose of the computer
for example if you don't plan on using it for gaming at all you probably won't need a gpu
| if you do plan on using it for gaming using a cheap psu case and just using the fans included with the case and cpu (usually) will work fine your usually only at a real risk of overheating if you overclock
| and in regards to powersupply you can get a cheap version of a good brand of psu psu's are graded by efficiency like bronze silver gold or platinum but there are also ones below bronze the main difference between these psu's are the amount of idle power they draw for example a platinum 1000W powersource in a system using 600W of power would draw about 600W from the powersource whereas an ungraded psu would always draw the full 1000W it won't damage you pc
| but it might raise your electric bill a couple of dollars
with ssd vs hdd it's just fast load times versus higher storage space
a lot of people get a small ssd to intall windows on to so their system boots faster but this feels unnecessary in windows 10 maybe wortgwhile if you decide to run a linux os
| PS
intel is having a fiasco about a potential drop in performance coming in a recent patch so it is likely cpu prices will go down
if you use their competitor amd then you may want to put more into getting a better fan because amd cpu's are known for running hot
| *phew* doing research makes me feel more confident almost didn't find out about btx motherboard that can't fit into atx cases
| >>95178
Stay away from water cooling unless you enjoy tweaking and messing with hardware more than using said hardware. After the 'wow!' effect dissipates and calms down, you will just wish start to hate your computer case and everything in it everytime you would need to change something small or upgrade components.
I've been there. Don't make the same mistake which I did.
| Thanks for the heads up. Maintenence and tweaking and more research sounds like too much work for me.This my first time building a pc so water cooling can wait.
If you have 250gb would you get 2tb hhd or 120gb ssd? It's a no brainer right? Grab the 2tb cause ssd will only make boot faster for me and that's it right? And ssds will definitely get cheaper right?
| >>98955
SSD makes everything in general faster: opening files, launching apps, et cetera. It's generally a "must-have" nowadays, to be honest.
| Which games are going to improve more better on a ssd? I like using a lot of space and have to be convinced that ssd is that great because 2tb is a lot of space but "the future is here old man" said ssd and has only 120gb. If I do get ssd man I need a lot of self control to install games and need to clean the storage as best I can.
| Not*
| Just get ssd(boot+frequently used stuff) + hdd(storage)
| I want to but that'll break my bank. I know that doing both is the best. But for now, do I stick with 250gb storage and buy 120gb ssd or 250gb and buy 2tb?
| And are ssds going to become cheaper in the future or will there be some kind of price increase like what happened to ram?
If it is going to be cheaper I'll probably stick with 2tb for now
| It's honestly up to you to decide between speed or storage. As for future prices the trend has been going down.
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| if I buy a low profile pc and change the case to a thicc one will this support dem normal sized graphics cards?
Will every motherboard with pcie support (dem 1080,1060,950,etc) graphics card?
10series gc need witch pci port? 16pin someone pls explain
(I will sort out da psu later :3)