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Kinda confused about web-dev
| Learn HTML5, CSS3, JS and jQuery. Bonus Points for LESS or SASS. You'll also want to learn MySQL, it's necessary for most dev jobs (web, mobile app, desktop app, server app …)
| Got HTML5 and CSS3 under the belt, PHP comes next for me along with MySQL. Somewhere along the way will pick up JS and jQuery as well. Not so sure about LESS/SASS for now, but we'll see.
The problem is, so far HMTL and CSS seem to be more about design than abything else, and I kinda don't wanna do that.
| Keep working!!
| >>56929
Will do!!
But I want to work not only harder, but smarter as well. And so I need...directions, I guess one could say.
| Try Bootstrap, it safes you a fair amount of time when you need to build sites.
##Admin:prefetcher##
| PHP is awful, trust me.
| >>56948
I know. But it's very popular where I'm from. Has literally the biggest amount of job offers among any languages here. So if I want to start getting into dev, this is the perfect (or maybe even the only) option for me.
>>56946
Have seen it being mentioned quite a few times. Probably will look into it.
I've also seen Wordpress being mentioned, too. Is it any good?
| >>56951
Yes, Wordpress can also save you a lot of time, if you want to build simple to medium complex sites and shops. Writing Wordpress Plugins requies mostly PHP, HTML, CSS and jQuery. A minimal Wordpress theme with Bootstrap is … so outdated I can't find it anymore. Oh well, looks like you'll need to try a few themes then, but be careful: some theme devs put analytics code in their theme, even in paid ones.
>>56948
Exactly, thanks pref.
| >>56948
No, but seriously, why is it so? And what's better then? I don't see anything more popular than PHP.
| Is there a decent free hosting btw?
| >>57773
might as well trying FC2? ad on mobile tho, but 2GB space is kinda enough... for most users
| >>57327
Cause PHP is old, over the years it grew like a sick tree. You can write in many styles, meaning this language has a lot of dialects. Also, I still don't fully understand variable visibility. It could also be more performant, cause before your script is executed it must be translated to machine code every time. It's not as bad as Java, but still.
| Oh, and it has very limited capabilities, compared to other languages.
| >>57788
FC2 only supports some file format, sadly. and its size limit per-file will make you think twice before FTPing ur files to their host
| >>57855
Well yeah, but what's the best way to go about getting a job in web development? Ruby on rails or nodejs or whatnot don't seem to even come close to PHP in terms of demand. But even with PHP, there's a lot of different libraries, APIs and stuff, some way less popular than others.
| Well, you could try to get an internship. Everyone wins.
| >>57968
Chances are rather slim, we don't really have that here, and what we have does not provide income.
| Webdev here, I almost never use PHP. I'd focus more on Javascript, or anything relevant to WordPress since everyone wants to seem to want crap for their WordPress sites these days.
| >>58007
Hey, another quick question then, if you don't mind. Do you mostly just write code with given requirements, or have to tackle the designing aspect as well?
| Huh, I hoped to find at least some kind of an answer after 20 posts, but seems like it's not happening
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| If I learn PHP (and probably more different stuff later) can I get a job just writing code and not bothering with design aspects of a website? I really can't do web-design all that much, but out of all software development my city pretty much only has options for web.