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Is JavaScript worth learning for an easy job?
| Yep, it's hard to avoid JS these days
| Javascript is cancer, it's never worth learning.
| >>552083 is java really that bad? or is it not useful or something? it (along with c++) is the main language taught at my university
| >>552114
1- it belongs to Oracle
2- Java programmers are cultists that think it is the ultimate language and that it can be used for anything
3- most important things that made java "revolutionary" are already pretty common in most high level languages
4- too many different patterns for project structure what makes it hard to hop in a new project
5- pretty much all good IDEs are paid
6- the "same code runs exactly the same on every system" thing is not true anymore
| >>552119 Java is better than JavaScript. JavaScript doesn't even deserve to be called a programming language. Java is annoying, JavaScript is wrong on so many levels.
If a language cannot follow basic mathematical properties,it doesn't even deserve to exist.
| 0 == "0" is true, 0 == "" is true, but "" != "0".
Something like that is enough to see that javascript is simply wrong.
| >>552141 Javascript is a mess I admit but so is 90% of the stuff created for front-end web development, having that in mind I agree that Javascript for back-end is an abomination but it's on par with most front-end stuff
| >>552119
1- not an argument - Swift belongs to Apple and it's GOAT
2- that's not a criticism of the language
3- the same goes for all established languages. People don't use them because of their revolutionary features, they do because they're widely used and tried and true
5- IntelliJ CE is great and has everything you'll ever need
No comment on 4 and 6 since I've never done a big project in Java so I can't tell. But it's not the devil, it's just very verbose and fairly ugly.
| >>552155
1- I said "Oracle" not "big corporations"
2- fair enough
3- the problem here is how people advertise java as a revolutionary miraculous solution for everything
5- when I was learning Java intellij was paid
Ok maybe my main problem is not with Java, just please don't fall for the cult of "Java is perfect" and keep a wider array of languages handy, a good professional uses the right tool for the right work
| The languages themselves aside, I see a lot more job posting for javascript webdev and java mobile programmer than any other dev job, so, yeah? I think it's solid if you want a job.
| >>552280
This, web dev is so huge that it's impossible to ignore. It might not be the prettiest of languages, but nowadays if you're not willing to learn JavaScript you're unemployable for most CS jobs.
| I'm in camp why learn a language that is unreadable by default, along with the creator saying it was a mistake
| >>552156 how do you know which language to use and when? is it an instinct thing that comes after you learn multiple languages?
| >>552500 sort of, it's just knowing the languages and sort of thinking about what you'd need to use to finish your project, if you need speed for instance you'd want a compiled language but if you just need to bang out something that works maybe a higher level interpreted language, it's sort of like that only with knowing which features set will make your life easier
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| Will it help me get a fast job, even if I'm not a cs major? I'm still a STEM major (biochemistry) but I've always liked computers and programming