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there's not a single linux video editor that is worth using
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| Blender is great. Is your IQ too low for it?
| I kind of agree with op. Maybe the best one I found was Kdenlive, but it gives me some problems from time to time and the way you apply the effects is not intuitive enough.
| Kdenlive
| >>423652
>Maybe the best one I found was Kdenlive
Ofc, ut's from KDE, and KDE is superior!
>but it gives me some problems from time to time
Depends on the distro you use. On Kubuntu and MacOS it sucks, because it's bad maintained. In KDE Neon and Arch it works great!
>the way you apply the effects is not intuitive enough
Intuitive as in "how i learned in in adobe™ course in school/university" (a.k.a. hidden subsidy with public money by digitally retarded estate)?
| There is also Cinelerra. It seems to be a really decent piece of software.
| It really depends on what you want to do. I wanted to do YTPs on Linux for a while so I did a whole lot of searching and trying video editing software. So far, here is what I got:
•Use Blender for modifications on the time structure (such as speed changes and reversing, although reversing does not affect sound) and also if you want to precisely control anination curves such as position and rotation. Also you can do crazy deformations by mapping your video on a mesh. (1/2)
| •Use Kdenlive if you want to have an incredible amount of effect filters to apply on videos and sound. Really there are so many artistic and altering effects, and you can use extra effects to install such as the LADSPA an TAP effects for audio. There are a lot of transitions too. And the editing workflow is quite alright. There are some things that are intuitive, others less, but you get the hang of it eventually, it's the same for proprietary software. (2/2)
| To conclude, if you have the patience to use a combination of Blender, Kdenlive, Audacity, maybe GIMP, you can achieve YTPs that could be done with Adobe Premiere or Sony Vegas.
| >>423778 >>423786 >>423787 funny how windows' sony vegas does all of these things at once and % better
| on the same topic
· there's not a single good linux multiplayer game that is free
· there's not a single good linux VPN that is free
how many millions of people are on the internet again? and we still don't have that?
| then, same shit:
>decide to use kdenlive again
>it opens on an old autosaved project that i didn't export
>try to stretch a clip
>there is no fucking way to stretch a fucking clip
>try to use 'speed'
>speed is utter shit and does not modify the length of a clip but changes the clip so that another passage that i had cut away somehow comes back
>try to ctrl Z, does nothing
>try to ctrl Y, does nothing
>close kdenlive and reopen it, because it's autosaved, right?
>it's not autosaved
| so, kdenlive is a rotten pile of shit.
it's so retarded that you can't stretch a clip.
it's so retarded that the play/stop/skip buttons literally have "play", "stop", "skip" written on them.
it's so retarded that it saves your clips once and then throws them away for some fucking reason.
| the next command i typed in after "blender" was "sudo apt purge blender".
first of all it's a 3D MODELING software, so you have to download the whole parade of megabytes if you actually want to edit; then it simply can't import .mp4 files. i'm not gonna read a book to use your shit. there's probably another minuscule button to click but if i can't use it without solving puzzles, i'm not using it. go blend a baby or something. as always, everything is half shit half decent.
| >>423830 >>423832 >>423833 >>423787
so when you talk about patience, can you perceive the problem?
| same shit with VPN.
| The funny thing with people in criticising linux is that most of the time they end up crying with arguments like "it's too hard to use for me" or "I don't want to make any effort".
You don't need a computer, but a babysitter.
| I also think efficiency is important, you can do some stuff with more efficient on GNU/Linux than in other platforms, like programming, or some scientific stuff.
We should aim to get the same efficiency in other areas so that people feel confident migrating to GNU/Linux in a highly competitive world. Only so we can help them to be free.
| >>423861
Linux is more efficient. It just requires more effort to start.
Basically with linux you'll take time to setup things and get used to them, but once it's done everything goes quickly. With other platforms, starting will be fast, but you'll have to handle a lot of small annoyances as you use them.
So for short works, Linux is not that good, but in the long run it if more efficient.
| >>423837 Proprietary software also needs patience and sometimes even college courses to learn how to use them, it's not different. But of course it will require more effort to start using open-source when you don't have the open-source mindset.
>>423833 kdenlive is great for filters, for speed changes it gets buggy but you can always try to change the speed of an extract and change the pitch
>>423830 TF2 and Synergy are playable on Linux to name a few
| >>423941 >>423943
and when i look up "Synergy". you and your mentally retarded naming ideas leaving you to wonder why no one's playing your games which probably aren't even worth it
| Also, as an example of great editing with kdenlive, there were sh1zbr0's videos but they are sort of hidden now. I'll post a link later if I find them.
| https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLH4BbGF3UAoUMRzKGEzxDwX-Q6Le2qPea
>captcha: good auto axles o_O
| >captcha: wavy wilde wadi
| >>423837
This. Hardly anyone who is busy and also values their time will ignore easy-to-use proprietary programs and systems in lieu of this crap.
| >>424039
And I've yet to find someone who is really busy. You are mistaking laziness for business.
And someone who doesn't see the problem that proprietary software is, and call a free, open source product "crap", shouldn't be allowed to use the internet as they obviously failed at understanding how it works.
Easy to use programs aren't made for busy people, they are made for dumb or lazy people. Feel free to choose which one you are.
| >And I've yet to find someone who is really busy. You are mistaking laziness for business.
Stopped reading right there pal. Enjoy your fart huffing circlejerk.
| Ok ok, so literally no one has mentioned davinci resolve. If you have blender, and davinci resolve in the same pc, you are pretty much set. Effects are node based and it is free, the paid version includes some extra, really specific effects, and the optimization is great, not to mention the incredible color correction solution it offers, you can do camera tracking, import 3d models, and everything you would expect from a prfessional editing package.
| The only thing that keeps me from switching to Linux is that davinci resolve doesn't allow you to hear the audio of the clip you are editing when messing around with fusion (the video compositing section), this is essential for me, since I often edit amvs and music videos for various artists, and the reason why I still use adobe aftereffects. For every other person, davinci resolve is all you need
| >>424044
>>Easy to use programs aren't made for busy people, they are made for dumb or lazy people. Feel free to choose which one you are.
This statement is not consistent with reality. Easy to use programs win over hard to use programs. This is true even with free software and open source. The more user-friendly project get more market share. This is why Ubuntu is king and Arch isn't, for example.
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And, it's true in pretty much anything in life. More automatic transmission are sold compared to those with manual transmission, etc.
But going back to technology: one of the goals of technology, innovation, invention, etc. is to make our lives easier. Whether you're dumb, lazy, conscientious or smart is irrelevant. Superior tech succeeds in reducing your cognitive load, so that you can actually focus on being productive and not being mired down in sys admin work/drudgery.
| >>424044
>And someone who doesn't see the problem that proprietary software is, and call a free, open source product "crap", shouldn't be allowed to use the internet as they obviously failed at understanding how it works.
Irrelevant. We're talking about quality video editors for Linux (or the apparent lack thereof).
Closed source video editors exist for gnu/Linux as well, and they may in fact be just as "crap" as the FOSS editors, in terms of ease of use or feature-completeness.
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Lightworks, for example, is proprietary and available for GNU/Linux.
| >>423861
The problem here is that your convenience is based on unfree software monopolys. The convenience trap also exist in the gnu/linux world. The difference is that you still really have a choice. Having a choice is not a bad thing. User that establish unfree software by using it take away the choice from other users. The issue already starts in the education systems, where people are told to use unfree windows and adobe stuff, even in public institutions. It's hidden subsidy.
| >>423830
I like playing 0ad, battle for wesnoth and sauerbraten. They are free (as in freedom) games with online multiplayer running natively in linux.
And what do you mean by "there is no good free VPN for linux"? I don't know where to start because this statement doesn't make any sense to me. Of course you can use VPNs in linux. It supports almost every standard/protocol. Also I would be careful with "free" VPNs.
| Wtf happened to the original point of this conversation?
| >>424188
The original point of this conversation was about a "video editor that is worth using" under gnu/linux.
The problematic thing is that people who are familiar with proprietary software don't get the point about free software and the unix philosophy. They only know how to work with bloatware that offers redundant functionalities in its own closed environment, because they were taught this way at schools and universities that are corrupted by proprietary IT companies lobby.
| >>424234
>The problematic thing is that people who are familiar with proprietary software don't get the point about free software and the unix philosophy.
Even if this were true, how would this be problematic?
Doesn't really address OP's concern.
| >>424244
OP's concern was already solved pointing on kdenlive as an example for a video-editor on linux.
Then some dude said that kdenlive doesn't work as he thinks it should work. Also it was mentioned that a GNU/Linux "Video editor" equal to proprietary video editors may be not neccesary as all functionalities they offer are covered by a couple of different independent programs in GNU/Linux. Eg. Why should there be audio effects integrated in a video cutting GUI?
| This is what keeps me from switching to linux completely. I need my Adobe shit. I don't care if it's proprietary shit when there isn't an opensource clone with comparable functionalities.
| >>424518 like I said before, you should try davinci resolve. It is not enough for me, but for you, ot might just be all you need
| >>424518
All functionalities adobe offers (except for handling their own proprietary formats) can be covered with FOSS on GNU/Linux. The only difference is, that these functions are not part of a single software package. There are actually distros that offer bundles for multimedia proceeding like ubuntu studio and kxstudio (my favourite).
| After all I'm always suprised how few basic knowledge people that do "something with media" actually have about media formats and prosessing. I met a lot of those people that said they need adobe for image processing and they didn't even know the difference between a raster and a vector graphics... I mean some of them studies, but I seriously asked myself what they learned at university except using adobe software like a point-and-click adventure.
| As you intensively use programs like Photoshop and try the open source alternatives you can actually lose some important functions, there are also some specialized programs with very poor alternatives.
I draw pixel art for games and have to use ProMotion through wine because ASEprite doesn't include some important functions related to tiles and palettes. Things like those are quite specific, but enough to keep you attached to privative software.
It has to be the same for videos
| >>425321
>As you intensively use programs like Photoshop and try the open source alternatives you can actually lose some important functions
which functions? give us some examples.
>I draw pixel art for games
Fine, then you could just could use any raster graphic drawing program because pixel art are raster graphics. My favourite is Krita. Here some video about Krita and Pixel Art.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmnpKQITm3I
| >>425321
Things like those are quite specific, but enough to keep you attached to privative software.
Yeah, i just wonder if at some point people need a special commercial meme generator software because it's such a specialized task to put a text to an image that it can't be done with any regular graphic editing software.
| You don't understand. Pixel art can't be made correctly and fast on programs like Photoshop, Krita, nor Gimp. You need specialized programs to work faster and to make complex tilemaps with maximum optimizations, as well as fast and accurate palette changes and sprite animations, hopefully with the possibility to set a bit limit for your colors.
| As a particular example, sometimes I used Photoshop just to reduce the colors in textures and other images, when I tried to do the same on Gimp, the color reduction dialog was way more limited and didn't give me the results I needed.
| >>425487
>the color reduction dialog
"Color reduction" is a little bit underspecified. Also, when I open gimp there is no dialog called "color reduction". There are by default a couple of different functions that offer different ways to achieve this. Plus there are probably countless ways to combine them and using filters... Well I have to admit I'm not a big fan of gimp and prefer Krita over it.
| >>425486
>Pixel art can't be made correctly and fast on programs like Photoshop, Krita, nor Gimp.
Ah, and this guy does exactly what?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uq2R3yQddqQ
Btw. I gave Gimp tutorials at schools and universities to "something with media" people. What I've learned so far is that they...
-often know only 1/10 about their devices and software
-lack of basic knowledge
-are trapped in (bad) habits which bind them to a specific "product"
-have zero own initiative
| >>425939
-in 90% of cases where someone says "this is only possible with software X" I'll prove him/her wrong in a few seconds.
-photographers are the worst of all
| I truly like and appreciate free software, and I try to use it whenever is possible, even when I have to learn how to use it. But we should recognize that the programs have to improve constantly so that we can keep using while we compete with other people in highly competitive industries.
Kdenlive is quite cool, but it gets buggy from time to time.
If I knew how to improve the code I would just do it, but I may need years of study just for that.
| >>425970
>But we should recognize that the programs have to improve constantly
Not always. Just think about bloatware and the recent approaches by it companies to bound customers to their platforms by integrating exclusive web-sevices and strange subscription policies for licences.
>so that we can keep using while we compete with other people in highly competitive industries.
I actually work there and we only use open source. Also competition is not that big because monopolies.
| >>425970
>If I knew how to improve the code I would just do it, but I may need years of study just for that.
I prefer studying years of programming over expecting to learn something valuable in a couple of weeks. Because it helps me to avoid to compete with other people in highly competitive industries. :-)
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