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How much battery does Android System normally use?
| mine's at 18%
| I guess we'll need an expert on this? I always thought it's normal for it to be around 5%
| Mine has been at 69 for weeks.
| It can fluctuate up to 50% and it can be considered 'normal'. Various factors can influence it, as the 'Android System' is just a coupled category that Android uses for its many processes; things like the package installer, system processes, and whatnot are usually put into 'Android System'.
Source: am a ROM/aftermarket system developer.
tl;dr it's alright, OP. That's within normal use.
| If you leave your device on without charging any OS will consume the whole battery in the end.
| >>420818
Let me correct myself: I _was_ a ROM developer, but the word 'developer' can be used pretty loosely here. The more apt title would be 'maintainer', if you're up in the lingo.
I maintained some ROMs, mostly for the OnePlus One and Nexus 5. It's nothing big.
| Just checked mine and it's sitting at 4%...
| 99%
| >>fea4ea OP here, thanks for the answer, it's been bugging me for a long time.
I lose around 3-5% overnight as I sleep, and the only reason I could think of was Android System.
| >>420847
Nah, I wasn't with those goons. I was one of the skeptics that doubted the whole 'Cyanogen Inc' thing. I did build some CyanogenMod though; especially during the Galaxy Nexus days.
>>420907
You're losing deep sleep then. What version of Android are you running? Android System is likely not the culprit here as it rarely takes up wakelock/standby power.
| >>fea4ea
Im on Android 8.1.0 right now
Well, sh*t. What's this "deep sleep"? How did I lose it, and how do I remedy/fix it?
| >>420945
8.1.0; that means you should have Doze, so losing a small chunk of battery is pretty had.
'Deep sleep' is basically a state when the system starts 'shutting down' (for a lack of better terms) processes. This is when only ongoing/scheduled jobs are kept alive, and the rest is killed off by the system.
However, as I stated earlier, the system will *not* kill tasks/jobs that are scheduled or is being ran. This can range from downloads to a music playback, or even TTS (1/2).
| *pretty bad (not had).
The processes keeping your system awake and preventing it from reaching proper deep sleep is called a 'wakelock' (because.. wake & lock; keeps your system insomniac).
So, now we need to determine what the wakelock is and kill it, if we can.
Usually I'd recommend 'GSam Battery Monitor' for this. Install it, follow its instructions, then do a complete charge so the app can collect its statistics. Report back here when you're done, OP (2/2).
| One more thing: the instructions can be tedious if you're not used to the whole ADB playground, so make sure you reserve the time for it.
Once you do all that, you should have a neat list of a more accurate depiction of apps using your battery. If it's an abnormal 'Android System', as you suspected, then we'll know through GSam — but I still doubt the system is the one doing that.
| >>fea4ea I'm no expert on adb, but I've had prior practice.
I'll try your recommendation tomorrow, since I can't do that atm.
Regarding Doze, can I take a look of it on my device? I haven't really encountered it.
| >>420960
For Doze: you technically can't. The only 'user interface' of Doze you can see is the 'Battery optimisation' menu in the Battery settings.
Now, there are apps that can make Doze more aggressive, thus allowing for an even greater standby time, but this can (and probably will) cost you notifications — you may miss them often with these 'aggressive' Doze.
Oh, in case this isn't obvious: Doze is meant to save power when the device is idle.
| >>fea4ea I couldn't wait for tomorrow. Did all what you said, including adb and such.
These are the first ones I spotted, and they got "Wakelock Details," but theyre plenty so idk if i should list em in detail
- Phone
- Google Play Services
- System UI
| >>420997
Seems pretty tame for now. I suggest leaving it to monitor your phone for two days or more.
The thing about standby issues on Android is that they tend to resolve themselves. I have seen plenty of users simply letting the device do its thing, without changing much variables, and the issue goes away without a fix.
However, I wouldn't bet on that all the time. Besides, checking all this gives a peace of mind anyhow.
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| >>fea4ea Thanks for helping me out
Ill probably report back in a few days, though I'm unsure if this thread will still be here by then.
Again, thank you.
| >>fea4ea here; lost my original IP so ID changed.
>>421030 No problem. I'll keep an eye out if you decide to make a new thread in this board.
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| Right now its sitting at 13% Usage. Though im pretty sure that that isn't supposed to be the case.
So like, How much battery does Android System normally use?