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Your best argument to convince a normie that he should care about privacy
| Commie G/u/rl-G
Normie-N
G: You should care about online privacy
N: nah I don't have anything to hide
G: Would you like the Government or Private Corporations to set up cameras all over your flat?
N: nah what the fuck
G: I thought u don't have anything to hide
N: yeah but it's different!
G: why
N: I don't know
GG easy
| >>388229 nah, when i was having a discussion like that even after the "private corporations and cameras" they told me "it's ok for me" or "you're paranoid"
| >>388229 that didn't work on me though. cams all over my flat would affect me directly because i know someone's watching every waking moment of my life. when i shower, eat, sleep, shit, masturbate. that doesn't happen when i'm online. physical privacy is more
selling/collecting data is awful but how is it going to affect me, at the end of the day? why exactly should i care if my ISP can read my history? i'm really not doing anything i want to hide.
| physical privacy is, to me, way more important/urgent than digital privacy*
| >>388257
1. Of course physical privacy is more important, but some of what you said is in digital privacy too
2. Google and other companies collect your preferences and sometimes even listen to you, again to know your tastes better, and use it in advertisments or sell to other companies. isnt it something that you would mention as physical privacy?
3. The 2. Is written in google's terms of service
| >>388260 /tech/ gurls are so smart to the point that they have ascended from the need of using adblock... also from the ability to not click ads
| >>388265 i like those gurls that are so smart they think that if you have an adblock, google doesnt collect all this data and that even if he does it is only used for ads
| >>388268 I like those gurls who are speaking in "what ifs" but get offended when people call them paranoid. Also not posting any proof to back up the "what ifs"
| >>388275
This thread is about retards like you.
There you go kiddo: https://policies.google.com/privacy
I suggest you to read it carefully
| if i was a despot, that's the mentality i'd base myself on to finally and completely win my war on freedom and impose slavery.
| You wonder why Trump won the election? That's right, because he won the Internet. Most people base their opinions on their Internet feed.
Now, how do you get the information? I'll take a guess and say most stuff comes from facebook-linked articles. And we all know that facebook has ways of filtering the information it shows to whole nations it really does not want to showcase. Guess why?
There you go.
| Directed and personalized information and ads are a selling point these days.
It hurts me to think people want to live off the content some corporation promises to give them, filtering away the "unnecessary details", and call it "freedom".
| >>388305
hillary did the same thing, obama did the same thing, everybody did the same thing
USA : "lobbying"
the rest of the world : "corruption"
| >>388260 i'm still not convinced. all i do online is talk to people, browse random shit play games, use it for work, and occasionally watch porn. at most it's being used for some corp database. why exactly would i need privacy if i'm not doing anything wrong?
| If it could be proven that the information gathered somehow affectd me in a direct amd meaningful way, I would care. Until it does, I think of it as some company making money off the trash I put out to the street.
| >>559a9d if people are ignorant enough that they can't find credible sources and confirm ad/articles that they see randomly on social media, the country deserves to be fucked. We are in /tech/ here, aren't we all supposed to laugh and scoff at people like that ignorant windows user?
| Maybe just let normies be morons
| >>388633
Yeah and let them burn our world with their ignorance cause there will be noone but some geeks to stand up.
It's not about being a moron, an idiot, a chad or a virgin. It's about the whole nation being manipulated, and us being treated like criminals in near future.
| Imagine not being able to get a mortgage if banks think you are not a good citizen based on your browser history. Or separate medical service for good citizens and bad ones. Or no access to living standards because you are a bad citizen.
This already is a reality in China. You Murricans can get the same but from private corporations and shills.
| >>388577
Tl;dr, tracking history for ads is fine, listening to me when I don't want to is not.
And also plenty of crispy stuff you probably don't miss knowing despite the importance of it.
| >>388567
So you're saying that however much info I have on you, you don't care as long as I don't use it to do bad shit to you?
| Alright, curious normie who never comes on /tech/ here, saw this thread and it was honestly interesting. I'm one of those "outta sight, outta mind" people, who has said before "meh, let them watch me jack off, I don't really care, I have nothing to hide". However, must say the most convincing argument made here has to go to >>388412 >>388416. Freedom of information and the ability to access knowledge, no matter what it is, is an important fundamental human right.
| I've always sorta been >>388567 this guy, and I still am, I don't see how the information taken from me can be used to hurt me or others, but I>>>will say that if access to information on, say, CIA projects was revoked from me becsuse my browser history shows I'm interested in psychedelic drugs, then this would be a whole different discussion. Only knowing what they want to show you and, in turn, being told what your viewpoints can or cannot be, is borderline dystopian/cyberpunk.
| However I must also say that, in America at least, we are >>>seemingly not blocked the way other nations like China are, we are still able to see a very large amount of free information that is not hidden from us unless it is strictly illegal like cp which, I don't fucking watch that anyway. Of course, I don't know what is and isn't hidden from me because its hidden, duh, so there could be information on previous world wars I'm hidden from, but so far everything seens unrestricted.
| And no, I'm not going into net neutrality here, I'm just saying, for now, our information in America seems mostly unlocked. The moment that I'm not able to research topics that they don't want me to research, whether it be because they've marked me as dangerous for having an opinion and they're gonna do >>388659 or because they want to make everybody look at the same bullshit on Facebook, I'll become a /tech/ie. Till then let them watch me jack off through my camera. Hope they cum.
| wow your a complete fucking idiot what a surprise
| >>388824 Hey, so I'm the>>559a9d g/u/rl. I like your reasoning and I am periodically asking myself similar things - is it really worth fretting over if anyone is really watching me.
The problem is not that somebody coupd be watching you. Or that you might be denied access to knowledge. The whole nation is under a watch. You need to realize that we all depend on the system. We can't live without the Internet, electricity, banks etc. (1/2)
| (2/2)
So what some people are afraid of is that we might be at the point of no return, where the elites owning megacorporations and banks will not only control your life, but they will be able to decide our fates.
A few years ago China had a project of a social network that would give you "score", visible to everyone, of how good citizen (pardon me, "user of the social network") you are. Post something about Tiananmen square and you score - and your friends' - plummets.
| (3/2 lol)
So this score decides whether your posts are "relevant" or not, like relevance of posts on Facebook. Which basically means people who say things social network does not like will be muted, and their friends should leave them lest the same happens to them.
Did I mention Chinese e-mail providers require you to register e-mailusing your citizen ID?
Look it already took me three full comments. It's the tip of an iceberg. Go figure why we'd rather be paranoid.
| I can say Cambridge Analytica was no surprise to me. Do mass media still mention it? Who cares? Nobody. And that's why we are so on-fire, because 95% of yhe population is blind to the problem.
Also, let's be honest. >>388824 Yes you have access to full knowledge. Do you search for alternative sources all the time and compare them? Even if you do, most people would just read what suits them and post it on Facebook. We are more dependant on mass media than ever.
| And here I am, trying to convince people on another continent what their freedom has to be protected at all cost, lest they will end up like Russia, where I'm using multinational proxies. Feels like a waste of time, but I hope it was a food for thought, at least.
| BTW here's what I was talking about: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/mar/05/algorithms-rate-credit-scores-finances-data
| Jokes on you i dont have a camera, and whatre they gonna do look at my hentai, shit ill fap with a suit if need be
| >>388910
Thank you so much for sharing that article. After reading about this, I do feel a little more inclined to protect my data privacy.
I suppose this is the part where I ask what it takes to become a /tech/ie. :)
| >>389021
well, probably install tails linux ahuehuehue.
Honestly though, do what you feel is right. I would probably start learning how stuff I use works (even if it's simplified). Read the eulas and terms of service when subscribing to anything and do some online reading.
I don't know your interests, I think the best advise for anyone is - always take what others say with a grain of salt.
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| Title, and we are talking about the worst normies