Post number #386039, ID: 1cbd84
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My old mobile's dead and I've been wondering about what I want in a new one. I've decided secondhand is probably best (cost/least unethical consumption/don't need anything powerful), so an old phone is fine, and I'd like to go kind of open source/private - minimal tracking/invasive programs etc.
What software AND hardware should I look into? Is the phone itself unimportant as long as I can get whatever open-source programs/privacy programs onto it (if so I'll see what's near me)?
Post number #386086, ID: 7731b4
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iPhone
Post number #386092, ID: 7319df
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Any phone supported by LineageOS: https://download.lineageos.org/
So most of the Nexus devices, most of the Samsung Galaxy devices, most of the OnePlus devices.
Post number #386126, ID: 7d08af
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Looks good, I'm sure I'll be able to find a compatible phone. Is the danger/u/ app compatible too?
As well as any other OSs, what apps (especially browsers and email and SMS clients) do you all like?
Post number #386128, ID: 6b8a00
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If you dont need android you could use a linux phone os like `ubuntu touch`. find out more here
ubports.com
Its pretty darn stable and you can you desktop linux apps on the phone. Its pretty cool use on nexus 5 tho if you need certain apps use lineage os.
Post number #386377, ID: c5d807
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Come across CopperheadOS, might look into that too.
Really basic question, but for instant messaging clients - Conversation for example - I'm presuming it works "one way"? If I use Signal to text someone and they don't have it, how does the encryption work?
Post number #386405, ID: eb16e1
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>>c5d807 for signal at least, it just sends an sms
Post number #386447, ID: 8b21bf
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>>386377 copperheadOS development looking kinda dead right now
Post number #386579, ID: 874091
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Samsung Galaxy S III i9300 with LineageOS
Post number #386810, ID: 1cbd84
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>>386579 Sounds just what I'm looking for, thanks. How's Chromium in terms of privacy and performance?
Post number #386891, ID: 109de8
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any alternatives to LineageOS that are as good as it?
Post number #386896, ID: 4b1f98
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Maybe buy used phone, root it, load new android on it, and don't install Google services. If you need apps just use some AppStore with cracked apps or some apkmirror website.
Also when you want real privacy you gotta build out your microphone and shit like that and use headphone to call people. There is an Edward Snowden Video (I think from motherboard) which is unlisted and explains that route inore depth. Ya gotta imagine a phone is like a bug panted, without y'all realising.
Post number #387005, ID: 1cbd84
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>>386896 "New android" means something like lineage or copperhead rather than the default/a new google os?
Here's the article with the vid, not much btw https://www.wired.com/2016/05/snowden-vice-cell-phone-hack/
Post number #387029, ID: e26d0a
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>>386092 >Samsung Galaxy fuck no, unless you have the snapdragon ones. I have S3 and S6 on exynos, on Lineage/CM the camera quality is shit and there are unexplainable lags in some places.
Post number #387043, ID: 2827f5
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>>387029 lineage OS has horrible camera software it's not the phones fault
Post number #387394, ID: 98f7d3
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>>387043 It's the manufacturer's fault for not releasing source code for camera drivers. Pictures taken on my Nexus 5 running Lineage 14.1 look the same as taken on stock Marshmallow. The pics from my SGS6 running LOS14.1 looks absolutely abysmal compared to stock.
Post number #387454, ID: c5d807
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is the camera bad enough that I should get a separate camera app (or even a different os)
Post number #387553, ID: 109de8
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>>387454 I just use different camera app there are many good to choose from
Post number #387805, ID: b9b234
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>>387454 Google gcam, it's a Google Camera port. Improves the camera quality quite a bit depending on the phone.
Post number #388108, ID: 36aa6b
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>>386126 Is the danger/u/ app compatible too? Yes, because lineageOS is just a modified android. The most important thing is that it gives the user more control and freedom on his device than a stock android. You could also flash and use it without google services.
>what apps (especially browsers and email and SMS clients) do you all like? There is an "appstore" called "f-droid", which respects it's users freedom. You can find k9mail (email), silence (SMS) and browsers there.
Post number #388109, ID: 36aa6b
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Post number #388547, ID: 4544fa
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>>386377 If you're using Signal for encryption and they don't have it, then there is no encryption. Both parties need to have the app.
Post number #388632, ID: 9dad2a
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Post number #389022, ID: d92775
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Cheap bump because I'll be back tomorrow after checking the used phone retailer, see what he says. Also my friends mostly use snapchat for communication - how invasive is it (even if you turn off the maps/tracking)?
Post number #389093, ID: 9615bb
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>>389022 Just like any other spyware app (whatsapp, facebook, instagram... the list goes on). They still collect your data. Even if you turn certain things off - they got a shitload more. You gotta think... it's free. They don't make you pay a single cent for this crap... So why would facebook buy whatsapp for a mountain of cash? Cuz they're good guys who want to provide you a free service? Nah. It's not free, you are oaing with your data. You are selling your privacy.
Post number #389094, ID: 9615bb
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*paying with your data
Post number #389720, ID: e00e2f
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Phone seller called me a "richard stallman type" when I mentioned wanting an open-source os, sad times. He had an S6, couple of huawei stuff and an A-something I didn't get the name of. Probably going to buy the S6 and get Lineage. Thanks for putting up with me and keeping this alive surprisingly long /tech/
Post number #389759, ID: 9615bb
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>>389720 Probably Alcatel, a Frensh shitty phone company. Also if you want a cheap, new good phone on part with the newest Samsung and Apple phones look for Xiaomi. They even have some European shops. They don't make any advertising which is why they are so cheap, also they have 5% profit margin, the rest gets reinvested into the company. You can also root them and upload a new OS.
Post number #389769, ID: a10920
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>>388108 f-droid should have (they did the last time I checked) an app called new pipe. It's an alternative to the official youtube app, has ad blocking and more privacy built in.
Post number #389795, ID: e9f903
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>>389769 newpipe is great, but the feed for subscriptions is pretty bad
Post number #389799, ID: 9615bb
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>>389769 How good is it compared to Videoder?
Post number #389982, ID: 28636b
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newpipe us great
Post number #389985, ID: 28636b
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>>389982 but yeah subs field is bad
Post number #390016, ID: c21538
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>>389759 No it was like A8 or something - I heard A28 but he probably said "A 2018", I might ask again and compare it to the S6. Probably not the A8 2018 because it's so new.
I'll look into the Xiaomi too, looks like I can pick up a Redmi 6 for just a bit more than the S6, but there's no Lineage version for it. Maybe the Note 5 Pro?
With new oses and obscure phones like that though, aren't I basically fucked if something does go wrong?
Post number #390131, ID: 7aff13
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By the way, if you do decide to flash Lineage, make sure to go over the flashing instructions carefully. You don't want to brick your phone. Most of the time, if you do brick your phone, you can fix it. But it's better to avoid that if you can.
##Dev:Lain##
Post number #391383, ID: 7ec1b9
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reopened this thread and commenting so it doesn't get closed instantly again
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| My old mobile's dead and I've been wondering about what I want in a new one. I've decided secondhand is probably best (cost/least unethical consumption/don't need anything powerful), so an old phone is fine, and I'd like to go kind of open source/private - minimal tracking/invasive programs etc.
What software AND hardware should I look into? Is the phone itself unimportant as long as I can get whatever open-source programs/privacy programs onto it (if so I'll see what's near me)?