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*secure* alternatives of discord
| signal and qtox
The rest are honeypots
| Signal doesn't even support bots, dude. They both suck so hard I can't even explain.
| If it's just chatting, irc protocol has it all covered. It also has bots and is *relatively* easy to set up your own server.
What do you consider to be secure?
I won't be that g/u/rl who praises geekiest solutions, because I know all to well how badly it could end.
| Wire.
| smartphones are for losers
| Using teamspeak 3 and I'm happy
| >>294447
>irc
It is not secure at all, anyone can see your messages, know your isp/ip/location, etc. It has some old-fashioned-20-year-old-clients. There is no way an average user will know how to use irc. First, u have to configure like 10 settings to even try to connect to the server. They differ between apps. 2nd- u have to enter 10 commands to join a channel. How simple is that?!
| >>294548
They are also newer interfaces for dumb users. You can also secure your server with SSL and several authentication methods.
But it is not really a full alternative to discord, as irc does not provide video or voice transmission.
Better would be "wire" or good old xmpp (which technically runs under the surface of most im providers) with the right plugins and clients.
| >>294548
I don't know bro, the only ones I've had to use were for connecting to a server then joining a channel. Two commands. You don't need to create any accounts to start chatting.
##Admin:prefetcher##
| use postal services you cuck
| Take the gotdamn bus and talk to them face to face.
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| I guess you can try to use GNUNet + RSS + some other stuff
| Use pigeon with linux installed. It is secure and has retro interface, unlike these new bloatware made to cater dumb millenials, because retro = instantly awesome. You only need to feed it windows user corpse twice a week.
| >>295592
Actually it's pidgin- the outdated app that supports some old protocols with no security at all. It's 2018, not 1998!
| >>295628
security does not neccesarly have to come from the protocol. Facebook and Whatsapp also use XMPP in the end, with some custom but unfortunately closed plugins. PGP End to End encryption can be put on
any messaging protocol. Also this is what whatsapp basically does, except you don't really know how their implementation works since - guess what - it's closed/proprietary!
Btw. use plaintext mail with pgp, xmpp with conversations, pidgin and/or profanity and with OMEMO encr
| >>295628
What's the difference between instant messaging in 1998 and 2018, except it got more monopolized, closed/proprietary embedded in closed/monopoly-alike platforms? Technically it's the same, since it's the same task: sending and recieving fucking text between two persons via a server(-farm or -network or both). The sad truth is that the only thing which changed is, that marketing and business killed freedom in the internet. And u need 8coreCPU+8GB RAM for send/recieve text.
| >>296030
pidgin with omemo/otr/pgp runs flawless on my singlecore 800mhz netbook with 1GB ram. All the modern "it's 2018 shit" not, since it's bloatet with innefiecient javascript for tracking, advertising and bitcoin mining on MY computer. I don't want all the other features, just sending and receiving text.
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| Messengers. They are everywhere. I bet you have at least 3 of them installed on your phone.
But when it comes to secure messengers with servers and channels and bots, messengers that have clients for all the platforms, there are just a few.
So, lets discuss that messaging thing. What do you use? What would you recommend?