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elon r u ok?
| elon r u ok?
| When you're standing on a boatload of cash, with companies able to build rockets and send stuff to space, I'm pretty sure that "eh might as well" would be a motto to live by.
| I mean if I was as wealthy as he was I'd do all that too
| Elon should create his own artificial country in the middle of the ocean somewhere. And just let science do its thing. 10 yrs later we will have technology that would’ve taken 30-40yrs in the US
| >>142520 We seriously need s country where scientists can do their shit unrestricted. Now they are bound by stupid laws and morals.
| I get why ethics and laws are good, but they absolutely hold the scientific and tech community hostage from innovating the coolest shit.
| Are you guys trying to cause the apocalypse in some vainglorious reach for progress?
| >>142525
what are some (recent) examples of this happening irl? not trying to be a dick im just curious and uninformed
| Self-driving cars is a good example. There is a large data problem right here that if done nicely would solve a lot of the issues with them. Laws. Ethics, fear. If we made them widely available, the amount of sheer data available would fix issues that arise. Hackers will hack anyways...the car itself got better with every iteration because it was made available to the public.
| Due to medical privacy laws, medical professionals are not allowed to share any information without your consent, even if it is just the numbers, any illness you have, and demographic. Imagine if we just collected all the data from Ill patients and made it widely available to scientists. More studies could be done without any need to seek out people willing to be part of the study.
| Anything that has to due with gene editing, oh the rich will use it to get ahead. They are already ahead and gap is increasing no matter what, but the human species could evolve if we learned to force changes to ourselves.
| I’m not saying that ethics and laws are bad, but look at how religion is forcing politics to strangle scientific discovery. It’s my own dangerous opinion, but we are faced with a great filter right ahead of us. If we can’t evolve as a species Because we strangle ourselves scientifically and look at countries as entities more than just the human species itself. The human species is doomed if we can’t evolve past this current society
| Open science is needed in so many industries. Rather than looking at people as the competition why not make discoveries widely available and let the community grow faster as a whole
| There is also the school of thought that humans will probably split up in two main groups. Those with better genes selected carefully through screening of individuals, and the more generic common type. The first could have low variation as they pollute wanted traits, the second will be where new variations will show up exactly because of the chaotic nature.
We see this today if we looked hard enough. Sperm banks screen donors and partner selection is complex in hi dev countries.
| The tech community is onboard with open source to a certain degree. But due to the way everyone is just trying to get themselves ahead of the people next to them, we lost focus on trying to better humanity as a whole. I have accepted this despair that what I have to do to keep myself alive is to work forever but it is not helping the human race as a whole.
| While in africa and less dev countries people mix much more and more often, they have more children and start reproducing earlier and have organisms that withstands diseases better.
| >>142562 this exactly it’s already happening to a low degree, so why does it matter if try to push growth in this area further? Sure unknown outcomes exist, but if you don’t do something then how will we learn those unknowns.
| Imagine if everyone was forced to give up their genes to the scientific community and made available for anyone to use freely. what could we do with all that information. What could we learn about our species.
| >>142569
Well, the very first thing to happen would be insurance companies systematically sifting through all that information to offer promotional prices for health insurance to healthier people, and higher price or no options at all for those with deviations from the accepted perceived optimal projections.
| >>142578 this is why universal healthcare needs to exist. Competition breeds this kind of mentality. I’m not saying we attached peoples identities to the genetic information, instead just I’ve them unique uuids and let the data scientist due their work.
| Give*
| I have to go to work. So I’ll leave with this statement, “we are all human, so why do we treat each other as beasts in competition for limited resources when we could work together and attain the unlimited resources of the universe”
| >>142580
I so much share the same wish with you, really. But right there I see a black market of revealing the persons behind the uuid for each genome. And it could be damn expensive such information because the opening for abuse is so huge. History has shown that even the most pure and good intentions have been abused and used for personal gain.
Being intelligent comes also with the knowledge that individual lives are a blip against the 'life' of a species.
| A cow does not think much about its own life vs the life of the species, but humans do. They plan, they act, they prepare in advance to maximise personal gains. They also can see how personal lives gain from bettering the life of the species. But most are daunted by the relative timescales and efforts involved, so they swipe it all under the rug and focus each on their own, small petty lives.
| Elon Musk is essential Cave Johnson
| >>142587
I agree with a lot of what you're saying. Unfortunately while we can enforce something external like healthcare we can't enforce this ideal level of altruism (and probably shouldn't?). Unless competition is eliminated completely there's always gonna be some group looking to exploit new tech/scientific advances. Sure that's happening already but I guess the difference is that the stuff we've barred off have the potential of hurting people a lot more in our competitive world
| Not saying we should just accept everything as is but I think there's a line where ethics and laws make a ton of sense. Like I agree that self-driving cars could be super accessible if wide-spread and the technical errors that driving computers might make are probably still less than inherent human error but once you introducing the hacking element you have a mobile mass that someone can take full control over remotely etc.
| >>142617
Well, I do not agree with how what we already have barred has the potential to hurt more... More than what? That is an unfinished thought there.
Society and life balance themselves. Just as we sbould not give overconfidence to prevalence of good thoughts and planning, so also it is wrong to aply it in the opposite direction where every new thing will be abused or useless. Examples are electricity and atomic energy. One can kill with a fork or a pipe, that doesn't make...
| ... technology based on iron more banable than tech based on wood. Because tech always betters the lifes of humanity as a whole. Always has been like this and always will be.
| Frankly, the people who think ethics are stopping research are completely ridiculous. The problem is absolutely funding and there's thousands of scientists with brilliant ideas for studies that simply aren't paid to run them.
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| Elon, are you okay?
Are you okay?
Are you you okay, Elon?
| >>142520 well too bad spaceX gets money off government agencies and other tech company who needs satellites. artificial country without a proper foreign policy will complicate that. not to mention getting personnel off shore, assuming there is no land territory left unclaimed..
| He is not ok.
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/152599413813018624
| The man went from "I design websites" to "I design whatever the fuck I want"
He has my upmost respect.
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| about a year ago elon musk was sitting in traffic in los-angeles, and thought about how cool it'll be if he build a tunnel under the city. So he built a tunnel under the city, and started selling hats for his tunnel. 50k hats later he got boried with hats, and switched the hats out for flamethrowers. He sold 20k of those, and 5 days later he tied his car up to the most powerful rocket ever made and shutted it fucking space. And the engines perfectly fucking landed themselves.