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Socialism is bad
| Who do you think has to pay for all of that free shit
| Everyone being taxed is ok by me I'll pay 50% income tax if it mean free healthcare and education
| >>95717
You could ask the same question for almost every aspekt of the western/bourgeois live-style.
| >>95774
Youre probably no or an untypical us citizen. In the US, no healthcare and education for the lower classes means freedom. Also every dumbass carrying heavy weapons and becoming shot is freedom of the lower class members.
| Actually I kinda like the fact that I don't have to pay a damned fortune every time I go to the hospital.
| pfft i figured all of you basement dellers would be socialists
| >>95774 If you want free healthcare and education, just move to cuckada. Taxes aren't that bad unless you're in Quebec and have to pay federal and provincial taxes
| Money is a medium of exchange for goods and services, when you complain about "paying for all that free shit", you're still thinking in the context of a laissez-faire economy instead of an adminstrative-command one.
| What pro socialists might not realize is that capitalism encourages competition, and competition encourages innovation. Ppl in Canada have free health care alright, but that sacrifices some of the quality, and they end up waiting in super fucking long lines. In America, you can pay to play. Right or not, that's your opinion, money is a mannmade thing anyway, much like race!!
| >>96911 Socialist countries for some reason always have the best healthcare in the world though (Sweden, Finland, Buna etc). And to be fair US is the only major world country without public healthcare
| >>96544 Your Cucknadian Shitlord here, friend. Yes, our healthcare isn't the best. I have to wait in line for 2 hours just to get a medicine for a flu.
But my grandpa got cancer and we received cancer treatment without paying a single Canadian dime on it. Neither do I have to be in a large debt for my college education either.
Canadian healthcare is certainly not the best, I'm aware of that. But are you really sure that having to be in debt for the rest of your life is the best?
| As an American I can nothing Stirs me into working like looking at my bank account and being one broken arm from bankruptcy
| Lol
| >>96911
What pro capitalists might not realize is that competition needs rules, but the capitalists greed (and/or their „duty“ to increase profits continuesly) always leads to destruction of all instances that could provide this rules.
Capitalim will always be in contradiction to humanism and democraty on the long term.
Just open your eyes:
Every capitalist country is threatened by nazism, preparing for war, increasing and developing their weapon arsenals, secret services, etc.
| I would prefer beeing poor and living in Cuba than beeing poor and live in the US.
But I am poor and live in Europe, still having hope that things can change here. Something I would not expect in the US. The only thing that can keep this rotten society alive is war.
| >>97322
Being poor and the US is not that bad what they teach you over there in Europe land but it’s not his crime ridden places you would like to think it is I mean yeah we have some bad people over here
| >>97259
I don’t care if your using Proper grammar sound intelligent Behind that all you want but what you just said right there it’s pretty stupid
| >>97362
Well, I believe that g/u/rl is very leftist (or as you right-winger called, commies)
I do disagree that saying capitalism always contradict to humanism and democracy is quite bullshit, and saying that capitalist countries are threatened by Nazism is pure propaganda. (Alt-right and Nazi in the west hardly make any numbers, leftist often confuse conservative with these people).
| >>97362
But, friends. Why the fuck are you arguing about using a proper gramma? This place is internet, not the United State. Everyone here uses different kind of talking, not all of us are native American-English speaker. They use a different kind of talking and sentence after all.
| >>96162
This is exactly what efficiency in words is. Let's skip class because we are free. Fuck school and let us be free!
| >>97388
Stop calling an american educated now. They get offended after a while. Some of them are but they are irrelevant statistically in the population. They dont have time to study punctuation, school is expensive. Better drop school, work to earn $$$ and be free.
'In home of the slave, land of the spree'.
| >>97552 I lived there once, it's not that bad. You probably either a communist or only met Fat rednecks living in a trailer armed with AR15. But nothing against you thought.
| >>97383
U simply forgot, that I wrote „in the end“ You may be fine with your capitalist island Paradise, but there are
1. billions of people that have to suffer
2. Clear tendencies to solve its inner contradictions with people killing each other for the sake of their self fantasized nations, races or gods.
| >>97800
Capitalism will meet an end when we have abundant amount of resource. In which we haven't and didn't. But this may change in the future when we finally be able to bring resource from other planets back to earth.
Yes, I do agree that in the long run capitalism will turn our society into a dystopia. But not as bad as you might think. People do suffer, especially right now in the capitalistic world but certainly not billions, and not in the near future.
| All treads about socialismus and communismus are so popular :D
| >>97827 But there enlies a paradox, because we are draining our resources extremely rapidly, a great catastrophe will be unavoidable, and this will prelude the remote possibility of humanity colonizing the stars.
| Unironic commies should just hang themselves tbh.
| Communism wouldn't work without slavery tbh, and with that ill work out until the slave overthrow the government, so communism is basically ¨ï wanna be rich but without actually working¨, but maybe it will work out with robots instead of slave, up until the point where someone want to create dorothy at least.
not saying capitalism its good tho, in fact i dont think theres a correct way to run a country.
| there are other options besides straight up communist or capitalism retards. Ever heard of Market Socialism? Syndicalism? Corporatism?
| Ok folks, it's really sad hear you complain and not understand the reality of the economic system and how it works. Capitalism and communism are nothing more than two differents tools. You can use in a good way or in a bad way or (even) in a evil way...
The really important point is how the population use the power, the resources, our integrity in the best way to create no a perfect society, but one that works and have growth and continous development.
| >>97827
No, capitalism meets an end once the global marked is oversatisfied. The big Industrialized Nations already are as the basic things for as comfortable survival are available in a bigger ammount as needed. The dominant conservative,neoliberal social-darwinistic politic are just restricting access for ideological reasons while marketing „experts“ are gaining billions to construct new needs and spread them arround.
| Socialism being bad is a tricky statement imo. I personally think we actually need just a bit of socialism in modern capitalist societies, I think they can go hand in hand pretty well when you just sprinkle it in. Those who want to fully socialize their country though are idiots, just attempting that shit is how countries get thrust down the shitter, ex: Venezuela
| It just doesn't work
| Bumping and watching thread
| >>96911
capitalism provides motivation to "beat out the competition". that's "good for innovation" when there are multiple parties playing on equal terms, but as soon as one of the parties actually does beat the other, it takes a position of power and changes tactics to stamp out any potential innovation which could upset its position and lock down "the free market" entirely. the longer this goes on, the larger the super-powers become and the less innovation there is
| >>101305
capitalism in modern societies is almost universally in the late stages of this game, with obscenely large companies in postions of absolute power, to the point where they control the laws of the country itself and are having them gradually modified to further entrench themselves and exploit people to gain more and more money, draining the rest of society of any means of survival. modern capitalism is identical to totalitarianism
| >>101309 also, is power and corrupcion. All sistems tends to his end in relatable ways. Capitalism is not a exception.
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| Just remember kids socialism is bad