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Why is there still so much anti Russian sentiment everywhere?
| no, i love russian girls
| >>84714
usistan needs always an enemy to so it can play good cop in the eyes of others. And to keep its people as uneducated as they are. There is a reason why it ranks like a 3rd world country in that regard. The less educated you are, the easier you are to control and you won't complain for being a modern slave.
Don't worry too much. The anti russian sentiment is mostly in usa because of propaganda. The rest of the world doesn't think the same, rest assured.
| >>84714 maybe its because of putin making anti lgtb laws while the rest of the world was accepting it, i mean there's even a place where they kill gay people.
i understand not everyone its like that but it still not a place where ill travel, mostly cause im afraid people fuck me over.
the russians internet peeps are nice tho, im a little jelly that i cant meme with them in the occasional russian thead.
(also i wish i could find a cute russian bf)
| Eventually i think it is fault of 2 contries -USA and of course Russia.Some stuff wasnt right at all at Russia side ,still im sure that Usa spread some strange influence to other countries.So Actually Russia needs enemy too.Cause Gouverment needs to be legetiamte-enemy what makes it legetimate .It is pretty simple .And of course Anti-freedom laws like blocking porn or torrent trackers .Still they even cant do that properly cause blocking isnt working right .
| there is only Russian anti government sentiment and it's understandable because of Crimea, hacking, Syria, Georgia etc...
| >>84786
In the sphere left from Austria there is allot of puplic anti Russian sentiment. From Institutions and political illiterate people. It's like open propaganda against Russia.
But even the new Austrian government seems like they will change now after this election (we have a far right and a fascist party in power now. And yes legit fascist, look it up. It's called FPOE). But we don't know, they just came in power a little time ago.
| >>84714
Just a though, but it could be because Russia has destroyed countless countries and killed countless man through out the history, because they keep invading and threatening peaceful countries even today, because their government is corrupt to the bone and keeps their people miserable.
| >>84828
But the anti Russian sentiment was there before. It started with anti communism, then layed a little low. But as soon as Putin installed himself as a strong leader the same anti Russian sentiment began. But not with valid points like yours or points like >>84907 made, but with just classical anti Russian propaganda without any value.
>>84964
So why isn't there a bigger anti USA sentiment? Why do we have Isis (who came from Al Qaida)? Why did the CIA kill so many people
| >>84997 around the world? Why did they fuck up elections around the world through propaganda or straight up killing people? Why did they destroy Lybia? Why do they sanction Cuba after they overthrew their Dictator (who was installed by the US)? Why do they allow Palestinians to die like the Jews did with Hitler, they even openly support Israel with money and weapons. Why do they support Saudi Arabia (a fucking kingdom with legit slaves) who fucks up the whole Muslim sphere?
| >>85009 I could go on for so long.
And what about Syria? They supported Assad (a old Allie of Russia) after an attempt of the west to Putsch Out Assad.
Of course Assad is shit, doesn't mean the foreign interference is legit or useful.
The US tries to push NATO closer and closer to Russian allies. Funny enough all old Russian Allies are getting fucked (Lybia/Syria). And then people are angry when Russia prepares for the worst with Crimea?
| There are basically three types of anti-russianism:
1. classical Nazism/Racism
2. post-anti-communism
3. ex-sowjet-satelite revanchism
The 1st one is a ideological mixup of anticommunism, antisemitism and racism ruling in nazi-germany.
Hitler himself proclaimed, that all slavs are subhumans that either have to be enslaved or wiped out and that they were led by a conspiring "jewish-boolshevists" elite.
The 2nd one was spread out by the USA as opponent of the SU during cold-war.
| >>85058
the 3rd one is distributed in non-russian ex-sowjet satelites from the bourgeois "center" parties to the far right political spectrum. They blame Russians for everything that went wrong while the soviet era and even after it, until today.
These three types of antirussianism can occur in different combinations.
Oh, a special form of anti-russianism is the asian one, that goes back to russian imperialism in siberia, china, central-east, etc.
And there is also islamism.
| >>85015
Who is "we"? I'm from Eastern Europe and people here don't particularly like US either. Russia obviously is on a different level, because they threaten us today and we lived through their occupation... How's that for a reason to not like Russia - I remember their tanks in my city.
| Idk. For me I want to move to Russia and I'm currently learning Russian. I actually kind of prefer Russia over the US though it sounds strange. I just hope that when I travel there the Russians I meet are kind
| >>84996
If you bring history here the usa is unbeatable at invading and making wars. Need I show you Vietnam war pictures? Korean war? Panama? Gulf wars? Cambodia? Libya? Calling them /insert color here/ revolutions doesnt help. How many military has usa all over the world? To protect them from the bad guys right? Who pledged military support to saudi arabia? Who created isis in the first place? Where are the WMD in Iraq?
History you say?
| >>85453
I have been to Russia and have lived in China for years. Have been to Usa too. Enjoied the first. Love the second. Was not impressed by the third. All of them have differing curbs to libery. The ones that worried me more were the ones in usa.
| liberty*
| <3*
| May I ask why? And as kind dangeru chaneller I'll give ya advice. Don't live anywhere besides Saint - Peters burg or Moscow. In other cities you would not be tolerated, cause lot hating of abroad people and low salary. So if ya plan to move, move to Saint-Petersburg or Moscow.
| China has very strong rules on public safety. With a vast population even the smallest thing can be problematic, it is a must for them. If you buy a kitchen knife a police officer might ask you why you need it. You say to cut bread, they say thank you and carry on. Felt very safe on the streets, never ever saw a street brawl. Thugs are not tolerated. They work hard and have a culture for comunity and helping. Self regulating society, tradition following is important.
| >>85471 I wouldn't talk about USA, cause I dunno bout it, I think ya really should know better. But in Russia these "curbs" are serious. For example there was politician Nemtsow. Because Putin was afraid of him, Nemtsow got killed. Or Chechnya story. In this region some shit occurs pretty regularly. I mean This region even have allowance forty times bigger then any not capital region. And now we have kind of Internet laws that allows blocking sites and watching us. So little qirks
| Not very little actually exist. Still I believe that USA has some problems too. But in Russia there is no life in regions besides moskva and Saint _Peters burg.
| And ye I really like how china now live. I mean they not totalitarian too much as they were in Mao times and proceed to more liberated society.
| Yes I was in Moscow. People smile. Can get irritated fast but also ease down and accept logic. Resoureful minds and nice to talk. Like chinese too have a high national pride and will dismiss you if you arrogant. But like them as well will take you and get you drunk with them if you show honesty. Jumpy yet easy going. You feel their emotions are genuine. Stubborn for things close to their hearts. Emotional for the good and also for the bad. Can be envious and grudgy but are minority
| >>85522 so why not try regions. In Moscow there are a lot educated people. They are clever ones mostly. (if we assuming ya talking in Russian with them). Try to visit and know how live regions. They mostly not great.
| In usa I felt like in chaos being maintained. Big spaces and people are nice. But for me getting paranoid about what is mine and what is yours. Also a lot of smiles about most anything so it felt very weird sometimes. Will let you be and do what you want but tend towards social stigmas. Have ability to ignore what others do. Could find anything you needed but everything was somehow money oriented, even when choosing friends or who to spend time with.
| >>85535 this is kinda what Russian worst trait ever. Ignorance. I mean really. Nothing worse then it. If we won't be ignorant to what's going on around us in our country we wouldn't sunken in poverty
| >>85534
In all ocasions I speak about cities. Regions I know there is shit everywhere in all these countries. And I can speak english and chinese and russian as foreign languages so I didnt have that barrier. All my describing is using common groundbase as a viewpoint.
| >>85544 Indeed about Moscow it is all kinda true, but I would speak from my field-science. In USA scientific worker allowance relational high-compared to even mid allowance by all country. In Russia prof-that means PhD bit higher. Has exactly our mid allowance. And it is kinda 600 dollars per month.
| Still I wouldn't immigrate in USA, I don't have a choice but to get out of Russia. Not much scientific freedom and low allowance. And I'm really afraid of next period of putin ruling.
| >>85538 Yes I do. Not as much as chinese and nowhere near English, but I could manage myself and cause good laughs all the time with my trying to form sentences with my limited vocabulary and grammar constructs. I think language is a barrier to know people prolerly. In a way english spekers are disfavored, not favored, from the fact that english is a popular language for most. While others can get near them, they cant do it with others who may choose to keep them out.
| Knowing a language makes you active in your approach and only passive and waiting for others to come to you. And as always broadens your mind immensely. They say learning a language teaches you how the people think in that place. And it is very true.
| (and not only passive*)
| >>85483 well I enjoy traveling and whenever I learn a language I look at its culture and Russian culture intrigued me I guess. Moscow and St. Petersburg seem interesting to me. But I'll just travel there first and I then decide if I actually want to live in Russia. I have no issue with the US because it is my home country. Yet I don't want to continue life here since everywhere you turn there's poison in the things we consume :/
| Emigrate to any European country, it's just so much better than the US
| What the fuck, did I just stumble upon a thread where people are having discussions with valid arguments?
Danger/u/ is the Christ of the internet.
| I live in Saint-P. and i realy enjoy this sity.
A couple of yers i lived in village Fedorovka, near city Salavat and Meleuz.
It is incomparable.
| >>85084
>And there is also islamism.
It has nothing to do with Islam in general. Just a west-backed Saudi propaganda.
| >>87623 I'd probably just find a street job, lol or maybe a gas station :/. It wouldnt be ideal but hey, beats drinking fluoride water
| >>89029
You may like it, but i don't. Where are you from? European village are very different from russian one.
| >>89449 even European ones are very different from European ones.
When you have some Nazis who want to have the village quiet in Germany you can have some Nazis who make nice parties all the time in Austria. While the Germans are against fun the Austrians blow some shit up just because they can. Like and they even have almost the same language, but still are very different.
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| Even before the US elections.
You can find it everywhere. In Newspapers and Shows, in Private Talks of 'centrists', on Reddit, etc.
And over here in Europe there is only the Far Left and the Far Right who advocate for a stronger alliance with Russia against US influence.
Like yes of course Russia isn't perfect. Like youcancriticizes their culture for being that anti gay. But atleast they don't poison their water and people as the US does. Or implement dictatorships around the world