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Why not built the Wall AND take over the means of production?
| What production?
| They tried it before, it's called Berlin wall.
| Yeah,keep that shit up north were it belongs
| Blabla
| >means of production in a service and technology based economy
| >>79090
It is all ok and under control. They produce inhibition laws when all else fails. Net neutrality dismantle for the win.
| >>79090
>Implying technology can't be means of production or that people serving as wage slaves from 9am-10pm aren't workers
| No! Not the Tesla and SpaceX factories! How else are we gonna invest in supecars and space travel otherwise?
| Thats why you refuse to let go of petrol economy, to invest in said supercars? And say, how trustworthy can your space program be when you cant have it hold human lives, and your boosters are shaky at best?
Get out of that bubble where you are living ffs.
| >>80108 And what are your space programs? I do not care about super car, but would'nt all of us humanity benefit from rocket technology? Sure it's not a human-rated rocket, but if you are goinf to built Fully automated Luxury space gay communism you gonna have to start somewhere, obviously having private spaceflight company would be a good thing
Also that said Super car is all-electric. Tesla is an electric car company, you know. Nothing to do with the petrol economy.
| Also, the worst nightmare that can happenes to me is that we managed to built a Socialist Utopia but can't manage to build orbital habitat.
Rocket is a good thing, electric car is also a good thing. I can't see why you wouldn't support them regardless of ideology.
| Space travel is our future.regressives like the christian right can only delay,not stop our destiny
| >>80714
By your space programs I suppose the other space programs. Well, in booster tech the russians have always been the best. There is an order of magnitude of canceled missions from NASA from 5 Celsius change of temperature or wind changing direction. Their boosters/thrusters have always been less prone to defects. There is a reason why till today *all* ISS thrusters are russian made. Till today they never stopped sending humans to space at much lower cost than others.
| The japanese have always been masters of miniaturisation and automation and they constantly cooperate with ESA which in turn quite often cooperates with Roscosmos. The chinese are in no hurry for their own space station when the usa wants to retreat from the IIS. Mind you that more than half of the ISS has always been russian.
As of electric cars, Tesla has a lot of hype. Rather in Japan several vendors have countless models. ...
| ... and Japan has it easier than most others for the charging network as they already have a solid presence of electric train infrastructure and can just add onto that and grow it to the roads. Tesla is vocal, not exceptional.
Lastly, costs of space programs are monumental. It has been already determined that research can only be sustained from governmental type of funding. Private can be a thing in the future, but as of yet there is no profit at all for private companies to that.
| >>81203 And half of the ISS resupply missions are also launch by Falcon9 these days. But I agree thought, Tesla and SpaceX is still a long way to be profittable by itself, but at the very least there are progress. Reusable rocket would be very beneficial to future spaceflight, don't you think?
I also agree that Roscosmos still play an important role for sending human to ISS, and probably will for a long time as Soyuz is the cheapest and safest way.
| >>81242
I am all for progress in space tech and electric cars, all the way. With as many as we are and the tech we already have we can do marvels in that if it werent for whatever entities caring only for profits and spending shitloads on weapons. If only one thinks what could be done if all the world military spending combined went for space and electric tech and investment. I think we could easily colonise the Moon within 10 years and have it be the launchsite to anywhere else.
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