Post number #712324, ID: 177cac
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He was the only hope for america all along, right?
Post number #712343, ID: 4f2d2b
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WoW yha, and in line with DARPA and CCC talk's. It seems we are dealing with heavy brainwashed humans controlled by social networks A.I. that also love to be treated as cattle.
Post number #712377, ID: b9b74c
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>>712324 Wrong. He was only the hope for people like Marc Zuckerborg, Jeff Bonzeos, Elon Musky, Bill Aids and all the other whacky tax-evading snakeoil resellers from the mental property platformer lobby.
Post number #712387, ID: 0b3164
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>>712377 who are also the hope for Biden and the demise for trump, yay digital censorship
Post number #712425, ID: 177cac
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>>712377 >hope for people he was going to force into actually being taxed ???
Post number #712431, ID: 5892fb
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>>712387 Censorship is when social media platforms have TOS :( wah wah
Post number #712440, ID: 017ef9
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I think people actually liked him, unlike the "better than the other guy" characters we were dealt with.
Post number #712465, ID: a3eb16
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He overcomplicated his policies and didn't have enough debate energy. On top of that, he was running against the interests of the american political parties themselves and against those of the american rich with the voting reform stuff. there was no world in which he won, unfortunately.
That can be said of a lot of presidential candidates.
Post number #712498, ID: be527b
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>>712387 The thing is, the so called "social media" is what trump made popular in the first place. The platform providers aren't really against trump. They share more common interests than they have differences about how society should look like. In the end they sit all in the same ivory tower. Trump just acts like he doesn't and horribly enough people are stupid enough to believe his acted "drain the swamp" bullshit. And Trump acknowledges mass stupidity much better than Biden.
Post number #712526, ID: f53279
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>>712498 ah yes because as long as they are the elite they must be all working togheter and its all according to plan, trump is just part of massive plan that our human heads cant see.
Like dude come on trump said many tines that he had enemies on the elite, twitter trues to find any excuse to shodow ban or delite his posts and the whole midia milks daily articles to proves he a racist white supremacist capitalist pig hitler, Im not a fan of the dude but they are being dirty
Post number #712528, ID: f53279
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And say what you want but trump wanting to stop this mass censorship from big tech is good for everybody and breaks an cycle that has been plaguing the internet for a while wich are adpocalipse, think about it, articles have sources but their sources nowadays are the social midia, big thecs have control oves what we see on the midia right? No cuz if cola threatens them to not advertize if they dont censor or supress something then coca has control over the ibfo people get,thats bad
Post number #712535, ID: 9f7635
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Conservatives don't care about censorship they just want platforms to bend to them and only air their views. It's all lip service nothing more and the Christian right some of their latest supporters since the 80s have had the hardest bone for censorship and crushing anything that does not conform to their "traditional values"
Post number #712540, ID: d50563
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>>712526 >ah yes because as long as they are the elite they must be all working togheter It's very likely they do. >and its all according to plan [...] There's no plan necessary and no conspiracy. It's more like a practical constraint.
Post number #712547, ID: d50563
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>>712528 >And say what you want ...because you already self-censored your perception by believing in trump propaganda? Also big-tech monopolism isn't a censorship issue but a monopolism issue. And Trumps politics did not really do anything about it. It's more about gaining control over monopolies then about breaking them. But control in a more authoritarian and ideologized and less democratically way - exactly what right-wingers socialists/communists accuse of wanting for real.
Post number #712548, ID: f53279
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>>712547 no, you are just under generalist mindeset that everything trump says must be a lie, worng or with ill intent, what he said about big tech is true its just that its hipocrate for him to say those things, but that doesnt take the merit that he is talking about real issues and wants to solve them, trump is not good but he has good points thats need to be solved.
Post number #712550, ID: d50563
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>>712535 True. Just think about the nipple controversy on fakebook/youtube. From an european pov I just don't understand what's so harmful about portraying women nipples. But then I remember that the USA was not only founded by progressive liberals but also by religious fundamentalists. They're like the christian version of the taliban, except they (luckily) don't get pampered by an external superpower.
Post number #712552, ID: f53279
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I really find it weird that people say oh the reps are bad but ignore all the thing dems do and whenever somebody from the oposite party says that they want to do something that is overall good the opsite side just starts to find any excuse to say it is bad, this thing of this side is always wrong is what is destroying the country, vote for peole who have good ideas not ideals
Post number #712553, ID: c42622
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>>712552 Reps are still bad.
Post number #712556, ID: f53279
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>>712553 you are the reason democracy doesnt work
Post number #712623, ID: 177cac
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>>712552 Plenty of people are aware dems are bad. But reps are bad AND threaten basic human rights for marginalized groups in America. I hated Obama but hate Trump way more. Hate Biden but hate Trump way more.
Post number #712625, ID: f53279
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>>712623 if actully take the bias away(since the midia has been saying reps bad for a good while) you see that both are equally as bad and the both have few individuals that are worth voting for, you cant just vote for one side, you gotta look and analyse the situation and vote for the best of both sides, thats how people should nove, not just by choosing a party
Post number #712719, ID: d93e4a
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>>712552 Reps and Democrats are both hypocritical in their own ways as a whole. Within both parties there may be currents and individuals that are reasonable and honest. But they are a minority no one listens to, because in the USA, more than in other countries, everything is about oversimplification, entertainment like a big fat marketing show. The most stupid, loud voices are preferred by the people. A crowd of selfish assholes vote for some selected selfish assholes.
Post number #712720, ID: d93e4a
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Trump was successful by driving this tropes to the peak, but he also overdid it. Biden is a liar too - only think about his positions on the last iraq war. But sometimes the tune makes the sound for people. And now barely enough people had enough of trumps harsh tune.
Post number #712784, ID: cbc233
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>>712719 thats very true, people dont want to think and thats scary
Post number #712842, ID: 177cac
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>>712719 If the DNC didn't rig their primaries we might get a decent candidate for the dems, but that won't happen. The only true hope is a 3rd party candidate, but America is too scared of "the other bad guy" to vote for people they actually want
Post number #712844, ID: cbc233
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>>712842 but it isnt about parties, you need to have the house with as much variety as possible, just vote the best of each party and bam problem solved, overelliance on the third party will just give it power and make them as corrup as the others
Post number #712943, ID: 177cac
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>>712844 I shouldnt have worded it with "parties" I just meant america needs people not a part of the dem or rep party
Post number #712986, ID: cbc233
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>>712943 now I get it
Post number #713018, ID: 4b4801
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I feel like Yang is kind of the Ted Cruz of the Democrats.
Post number #713454, ID: 0b8530
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>>712784 >people dont want to think It's because most of them aren't raised to think but to do the dirty and hard work for those who think for them instead.
Post number #713456, ID: 0b8530
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It turns out the whole american dream was nothing but a delusion that only worked for some decades and becomes now a nightmare. "Everyone can make it" doesn't mean everyone should and will make it. Yang is just the political representation of the idea that technology will solve this issues without even overthinking the delusional myths that cover the nature of the underlying economical system.
Post number #713458, ID: 113cb1
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The "american dream" is possible, its just that people are not thinking and most of them dont know how to start business and settle for lesser jobs with lower salaries since they have to compete with cheap slave like labor and most companies can just move to china if they think amrica is too expensive, its because they dont think that they cant grow
Post number #713459, ID: 113cb1
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The "american dream" is possible, its just that people are not thinking and most of them dont know how to start business and settle for lesser jobs with lower salaries since they have to compete with cheap slave like labor and most companies can just move to china if they think amrica is too expensive, its because they dont think that they cant grow
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| He was the only hope for america all along, right?