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People blame the media for their own lack of critical thinking
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There are a handful of special-interest funded news group that broadcasts widely for easy access because they are funded by special interest groups to do so, and they typically aren't trustworthy. The spin on these stories quickly becomes evident when you ask yourself "Who funds this?" and "What do they have to gain?"
| There are tons of great fairly neutral news sources. Publicly funded news like NPR, AP (Associated Press) and Reuters are great, reliable, neutral sources that aren't usually paywalled. These sources don't shove their articles down your throat on TV and the internet because that costs money, so you have to actively look for them.
| Otherwise, the company has to pay its reporters and articles will be paywalled.
I work in IT and I am bitterly disappointed in people's inability to use the basic tools they work on every day (computers) and their inability to do even the most rudimentary problem solving on their own. Your ignorance in an age of information at your fingertips is your own fault.
| When they say the midia they mean mainstream midia, wich has been very crappy over the yrs, and guess what most people use as new sources? Either mainstream or freaking headlines on social midia(60% just click read the first line and quits).
So ye mainstream midia sucks but the people are also really crappy when it comes to critical thinking and looking for information
| I do agree with op, people need to have more critical thinking
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LMAO you're exactly like the people I described though. You constantly blame the "midia" for everything.
| And I just said that most people use mainstream midia wich means they dont use the sources you listed, so most people do read crappy news and they dont actually search multiple spurces to get a more open and vast repertoir of information, the blame is on people for being so easy to manipulate but also on the midia who does shaddy cover ups, lazy articles and rage baiting, so both are in the wrong and I doo agree with you. Idk what you are talking about
| 30 bucks that op just made this thread to bait and try to "own republicans" since they always scream fake news on shit that is at most dubious or conspiracy territory.
| there is no other explanation as literally agreed with him but he still found something to say its wrong
| >>1764b3 >>c0b029
Can you please stop shitting up every single thread you post in? You always steer them towards off-topic ramblings and conspiracies.
What is wrong with you?
| henlo
| >>710310 nothing I said was off topic, I dint ramble I stated facts, you are just angry because my opinion isnt 100% equal to yours even tho I literaly agreed with you and said something that was a little against your main point.
You need to grow up and accept that this site isnt an echochamber and that there will always be somebody that will challange your opinions
| >>1764b3
I wanted to respond to this thread but instead I'm going to respond to you. If you want to tell people to "grow up" then we've already lost the chance to talk about the topic.
Agreeing with someone does not win you acceptance. We are not unhappy with you because you don't agree with us, we're unhappy with you because you are a narcissist. Every time someone asks you to stop, you defend yourself and your opinions. YOU are the one who can't put up with being challenged:
| - you take everything as a personal offense against you, and tell people to "grow up" because you're trying to make the argument personal to them. that's why threads derail when you get in them
- you consistently try to deflect the conversation by defending yourself and then replying to an unrelated topic to try to gain an ally. you did it right here responding to the "hello". this also derails threads
| - rather than fixing your spelling errors, you cling to them and purposefully repeat them because you'd rather be the correct one. this is because you want shit to be about you. this is a fully anonymous board, and we'd prefer if you kept shit fully anonymous rather than having a self
- you refuse to be part of the community in every way, then expect the community to accept you
| You waste so much space trying to get anybody to agree with you. Even despite that I don't believe you do want to be agreed with, you'd create arguments so you can tell yourself you're the right one. Either that or you're a troll's persona, in which case please go do something about the UwUposters on /u/.
Nowhere in this rant did I respond to your argument. I don't care if you agree or disagree. This post is entirely about why you make this board worse. Shut the fuck up.
| >>710335 All I do Is give my opinion and people start calling names, throwing tramtums, call me sassume that I follow an ideology or approve of something for no reason at all, if they dont want me responding in apersonal way then they should not talk about me they should give their own counter opinions, acting the way they do is childish
| >>710336 why dont you call out the first person to say hello anyway? thats just nitpicking
What you consider derailing is too broad, conversations can very much move to more ample, complex, closed or simpler aspects, saying something that can open a new discussion is good and keeps the converstaion active
| >>710337 why does grammar matter so much anyway? And what does it have to do about me?
You tell me to stop talking about me but actively talk about me and express things about me, if you bring me up then of course I would make it about me
| >>710338 are you mad because I act the way I act? Who are you to say how people should act here, if anything you make this plataform worse since you keep budging others to act the way you want them to act
So there you go, you just adimited that the problem isnt with my opinion, its with me, you are the one making it personal and you dont actually care about talking, you are the one who needs to grow up
| >>710343 why would I not defend myself? You are talking about me as person, if you didnt care about me you would talk about my opinions not me, you are the one making this shit personal in every thread I go, you are bringing it uppon your self, if you dont want to talk about me then dont talk about me talk about my opinions, you are too childish man and you keep following me arround and hating on me while im just trying to express myself, you are the bully not me, you make it bad
| And why do I put effort? Because Im polite and Im not lazy, I have some free time, so why not put effort on things? Doing things half assed just brings half assed things back, no wonders you put so much effort to follow me, at least Im a good example of effort for you :)
| I didn't read any of that. Stop typing.
| Also congrats you brought me up and you "ruined" the thread. Learn your lesson next time, I aint changing, if that bothers you than you make the effort to change you since you cant controlme you have to control yourself
| >>710351 If you're intent on not changing, then please leave the website. I don't want to control you, but I do want this website to keep feeling anonymous, and you're preventing that.
| >>710356 you are the one not being anonymous right now, also why me having a reputation ruins your anonimity? Is it because you cant see me anywhere without getting triggered? If you then you are creating the rep of that one guy who hater that one other guy, and its your fault, if I naturally annoy you so much, Im trully sorry but you are the one whobneeds to change if you are that bothered, I dont owe you anything and I just wanna be myself, bullying me wont solve anything
| Alternatively, you can work on fixing your spelling and try to be a part of the existing community than pushing it out. I know that's you in the other /new/ threads, but you fit in in those, so I don't have to give you the attention. I'm fine with you doing that, although it's probably harder for you.
| >>710359 nah man, just dont give me attention, I like to be the way I am and I dont care about proper grammar, I dont need to spell the way you want me to, I do my things and you do yours, honestly we cpuld be friends if things keep going this way, the more you break your own anonimity the more I learn about you, you are not bad, just very petty, just know that things dont go the way you want them to, if you ever feel bad about it, make a thread and we can talk anytime
| >>710358 Not everything is for everyone. It's fine for you to be yourself somewhere else. It's fine for you to be someone else here. But please have respect for the community that was here before you. Also, it's not one person doing this. Your previous stalker also broke the anonymity, which I also disliked, but you were worse. So please stop spreading this.
| >>710362 We've already made this that thread. Unfortunately this is probably only the third time I've personally responded to you. The reason that you think it's just one person responding to you though is because places like this have their own cultures. We respond in similar ways because we think similarly about how this website should be used. And that's not something that doesn't change, but it is something that doesn't change because one person breaks the ice.
| >>710363 no I wont stop unless I need to, Im serious, Im am just being me here, not my fault I was made this way, I cpuld tell my whole life history and all that bs but I would not change, I dont owe you nor this community, I will be me and you sorta have to respect that, preveious stalker kun? Are you new stalker kun? Well you will ither grow or break, welcome to hell
| >>710365 I dont owe you not the community, I didnt commit any crimes and Im just being me, I dont care how many people may be against me I will be myself unless I need to change, if you ar ethat bothered then you change what you CAN change again sorry if I am that annoying bu you gotta adapt to me since Im clearly the one who has the upper hand since I dont restric myself to fit others and you gurls are the ones who are annoyed
| >>710366 Nobody owes anyone anything. Just as you don't have to respect this community, this community doesn't have to respect you. If we respect each other though, then we don't have to have so many arguments. I might grow or I might break or I might lose interest and leave, but danger/u/ won't "grow or break." Maybe it will change over time, but that isn't because you changed it. It's because it's a community.
| And dont see that as me being arrogant, I say the upper hand because if yall could have dealt with me yall would have done it by now so clearly I have the power in this "relationship"
| We can have a joke that there's only 3 g/u/rls on this board because of our community and anonymity. We can have someone who spammed the board to death and made us use captchan for a year stick around and post with us because of those things. We can have a place that everyone else enjoyed because of those things. I want to keep those things and there's no reason for you to destroy them.
| >>710369 well then its not my problem really, and if me or you being here or not wont make a difference then why ar ewe having this conversation? Why are you so persistent? You care more abput this than anyone, if you find me on other more popular boards you will see that most people dont even know or bother to know me, so you gurls are the bothered ones, again sorry but I aint changing
| >>710372 Do you want to stop being known? Do you want to stop being bullied? Or do you like being the lone asshole? Like I said in my original post, I think it's the last option because that's what makes you feel like the better person, but I'll let you answer the question.
| >>710371 I am not destroying anything tho, did the site change rule because of me? I never did something to get banned or something, if me not being anonymous enough is what bothers you then cant you see how childish you are acting? Why do I need to cover myself? "Oh because the community does so" no, these people just naturally fit in your made up mold, I break the mold and this bothers you for some reason sorry for being different and being myself like most people here are
| >>710373 see you ar ethe asshole here, "act the way I want or I wil make you fell lonely,bully and chase you!" Look at your self, you hate me because I am different thats wrong in so many levels, if you cant change that then I can respect that, but as long as I dont feel like changing I wont, you think I am acting like the better person but I actually am the better person in this situation, your arrogance to think you can control me is gross, you are just a bully, grow up
| >>710375 "I actually am the better person" is the reason I get upset when you post. Nobody is better than anybody. You aren't better or worse than me because you want to act a certain way. But you are making people upset and frustrated by acting like that here. I don't want to call you BAD or WORSE THAN ME, I want you to stop thinking about who's good and who's bad while you talk here.
| Oh and quick reminder that its okay to be yourself as long as you dont break any severe rules, you are an infinetly complex being and so are the ones around you
| When you're thinking about who is bad and who is good, you're including who's in that situation. We feel disrespected because you break our treasured custom of anonymity by doing that. If you want our respect and if you want us to stop bullying and chasing, we want you to return that respect. Yet every time we ask you to do that, you reject it and defend yourself.
| >>710377 corretion, Im making you and some other minor people upset and frustated. Also I dont means as generally better( would be stupid to say so lol) I mean thay in the talk and context we have yes I am the better person, sorry for not especifient that even tho it should be obvious, and ok fine, you are just as complex as me, mybe you have a more reasonable goal than I imagine but acting agressive the way you are certainly isnt the best way to do it
| >>710378 When you do this is what pisses me off the most. You're seeking for allies. You're trying to divide the anonymous group into multiple nonanonymous parts. Please have the respect to understand that that makes at least me uncomfortable in this place where I've been comfortable for years.
| >>710380 yo! Why just not attack me personally, I only bring myself because yall are assholes that gatekeep the anonimity on this site like you are some sort of mini janitor/maid, you dont make the rules here
| >>710381 Unrelated to our current discussion: I'm starting to feel limited by the way this page refreshes, do you have Discord? If we could continue somewhere more live, I'd appreciate it. I'm MysteryPig#2131
| >>710382 bro I did was give a motivational comment, now you are just acting pure emotion and no logic at all
| >>710384 nah I dont wanna talk on dscord, also becarefull, some dude could just spam bots to your account or pretend to be me and do something to you, please dont do this again, its for your own safety
| I even suggest changing you id on discord, also you broke your anomnity even more
| >>710386 I don't care if somebody who reads this board can message me. Is there a different live chat method you can use? I'd appreciate a slightly less disjointed chain of responses. If that doesn't work, then we can also put 'finished' at the end of our multiple post responses and wait for each other, but right now it feels like we're talking over each other and that's hard to converse with.
| >>710387 I don't want to be anonymous on discord. I can't. I use discord for the communities I want to be less anonymous in, because I respect that that's how discord operates. Here, I can always stop talking and hop to another thread, and that's the kind of anonymity that makes this place nice for me.
| >>710385 Yes, I'm emotional. The entire reason for having this discussion is that you've changed my emotions. It is also harder for me to empathize with you and respect you if I don't understand your emotions, so trying to be logical will not help.
| >>710389 look you brought this uppon your self, if you bother me again I will just use your discord Id to make everybody know who you are here and ruin this site for you, wich fair since you ar etrying to do the same to me
| Im gonna sleep and call it a day, good bye
| >>710392 If you just abandon this thread, we won't reach a solution. I'm trying to talk to you because I want something from you and because I can't tell if you want something from me. Before you leave, PLEASE answer my question. Do you want us to stop calling you out, or not?
| I blame the media for making people blame the media for things the media didn't cause. The media should be defending it's honor, but instead it's letting us blame it for things. Therefore, it's the media's fault that we're claiming it's the media's fault.
| >>710493 good morning, tbh I dont care, this is a you problem not mine, I can help on what I feel kie helping
| >>710497
If you don't want to respect the community then the community may not respect you back.
Then we will continue like before. Please don't complain or defend yourself in the future since it's supposedly not a problem for you any longer.
| >>710501 I will do Wht I do, if you dont want me you know what to do now, talk about my opinions not me as a person.
Btw Im making a thread about this since I wanna see what others think
| All of you are retards. Left right, Republicans, Democrats all of them are brainwashed. Stop talking about politics like its something that matters. No one really gives a shit. It's all about making money. If your just passionate about politics you are the biggest retard. Unless you're making money while talking about politics, it's useless.
| >>710521 I mean,op>>ecb260 seems to be more passionate about me rather than politics, and I dont really care much about, I have my opinions and all But even I think taking saides is too tribalistic and inneficient and that the higher ups really care more about money then the actuall place they live.
So yeah you are right, it really is stupid tho you could have been a bit less aggressive, this sorta ruins your point a bit
| >>710525 even tho everything has politics in it I'm sick of everyday nobodies talking about politics like anything's gonna happen
| >>710527 yeah it is indeed frustrating, I get you, I only got into politics because they started to politicise my hobbies, my gender and my race, and when I looked, life was poolitics, its very sickening that they pick base concepts such as these and decide to it take to extreme and make you choose sides. Its very gross, wonder where this will take the world to
| Yooo mod who locked the other thread, I just wanna say: fair enought, I guess if people here get outraged so easely then they shpuld stay here, sorry for dragging it on /u/, I was just curious about what other people think and I got my answer, keep up the good work
| Politics and the outrage that occurs from it comes chiefly from giving value to someone's comment and reacting to it. The best way to deal with it (for your sanity) is to not interact with someone's opinion if it is detrimental to your health.
This isn't the same thing as entertaining their opinion- just about every opinion can use *some* consideration, even if you know it to be valueless- that's how empathy is formed, and an understanding reached, even if the only solution is to agree to disagree. But you don't need to feel like you have to respond to everything, nor should you, in my opinion.
Ignore a poster if you feel that they're "invading" a thread with irrelevant content. If the poster is intentionally engaging in spam, contact one of us in /test/ with an explanation of why you're accusing the user of spam, and it will be investigated.
We would really appreciate it if users in this board would engage in less spiraling into personal fights and instead use other platforms to work out their issues rather than this board. It is rude to the few users who *do* want to engage in discussion and discuss news to have to watch their threads fall apart due to personal bickering.
| For example, I noticed that a discord tag was offered for continuing this off topic argument.
| >>710586 well I guess I can try a bit harder to not engage with those people, It doesnt really affect my mental health because I know how outrage culture is stupid, I just respond because Im bored and they are putting me on the table, the journey tends to be more fun than the conclusion of said discussions but I get it and sorry again I did go a overboard bringing it to /u/
| Ironically the lack of critical thinking is what can make a (political) movement strong, while too much critical thinking weakens it. There are so many sad examples for this, historically and also recently.
| We should think about who support the media.In my country,the government support and control the newspaper and television,so the media always praise our government instead of show the real problems that need to be solved.As for me,I do not only distrust our media,but also western media,I believe that the more information I know,is the better situation.Thus,please be doubtful to the media and think about their purpose.
| yanks
| >>710906 ah the yanks gurl is back even, calling it yanks even if the issue is a world wide problems
| Although it's best to use critical thinking when consuming media news, most people work 40+ hours a week and ain't got the energy. Govt probably should have killed cable news in the beginning before it became a norm to spread misinformation first before checking for accuracy. It's naive, but I just think media has a duty to make sure they are reporting accurately and not the public's job to be constantly fact-checking them
| >>710901
Well in "my" country (in fact I don't own anything here) we have a dualism of public and private media.
Public media has high quality standards but is somehow biased, because our biggest political parties have too much influence. This is most noticeable when it comes to foreign politics.
Private media has very, very low quality standards and is way more apolitical, except praising and propagating neoliberal ideology (private = good, public = evil).
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| "The Media" is the whipping boy people use because they can't figure things out on their own or think critcially. They blindly listen to what someone tells them and half the time don't understand what they're even hearing and then blame the "media" for lying to them. I almost pull an eye muscle rolling my eyes every time I hear "THE MEDIA".