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Capitalism works great
| Capitalism works great at generating lots of wealth for a small minority of people, but that's about it.
| >>709408 money loundry, artificial inflation and justice system failiure is what favors a small minority of people.
| Haha long country
-Tall Pinochet
| still better than communism
| Nope
| Nope
| Yanks
| for those who disagree, ask yourself or any person if they would be willing to do what they do right now for just a minimum wage.
| Minimum wage is a joke.
| I wonder what people can get from this kind of "discussion".
| >>709706 passion should not be the only motivation, pure passion with no other restricitions is just idiotic, if everyone acted just passion we wouldnt have truly hard working people, people that respect rules, sense of obligation, and sense of community, wich btw would all be necessary for a communist or socialist utopia.
Also rape is what heppens when a person only acts based on their passion and what they wanna do
| >>709743 what did you not get from that? Ask more precise questions and I will answer, probably...
| I would love to work in a field I'm passionate about and would even accept a smaller paycheck if I did is all I'm saying.
Why you're bringing up Tunnel vision, communism, socialism and rape is beyond me... Dude, are you even OK?
| >>709747 and my counter arguement to that is that just following your passion even if its not good in the long run isnt good.
Those point were not raised for discussion they were raised for and explanation to point above, you are the one who misinterpreted it.
And to cap it, socialims was brought up because your point at >>709706 leaned against what I said at>>709617, thats all
| >>709754 They act like that due to the lack of more detailed info, this is where you fucked up, these people are not smart enough to get all that with so little explanation, these people are now confused and think that you are just saying nonsense, in their heads they are just thinking you are a moron and they are smarter because they didn't get it.
So next time be more precise and patient.
| Bringing up rape out of nowhere is pretty fucking sick dude
| There's something genuinely wrong with you
| >>709453
Except for those who are exploited or beeing murdered for fighting against their exploitation.
| Anticommunist logic applied on capitalism:
In early capitalist ireland one million people died due to the "great famine"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Famine_%28Ireland%29
=> capitalism = bad
| >>710165
Strawmanning much?
I swear this board gets dumbe by the minute. It's just embarrassing at this point.
| Also lol @ the rape analogy out of nowhere. Fucking psycho.
| I wonder why so many immigrants from Venezuala move to capitalist countries.
| >>710191
Outside of North Korea basically all countries are mixed-economis aka a capitalist economy characterized by the predominance of private ownership of the means of production, with profit-seeking enterprise and the accumulation of capital as its fundamental driving force.
So if you're genuinely wondering why people fleeing from Venezuela aren't moving to North Korea then you're an uneducated moron.
| Because the world economy follows a (generally) capitalist model, it is difficult for an entirely non-capitalist state to exist and compete in modern times. Even those nations that have strong central planning still participate in capitalist relations simply because it is pretty much the only option for world trade.
| If you want to find a contemporary non-capitalist state, you pretty much have to look to an isolated or failed state, such as North Korea or maybe one of the crony-capitalist states in sub-Saharan Africa. It's slim pickings out there.
| But there is still pickings.
And you can even think of a living in a self suficient farm, a tribe or in a forest by yourself is very non capitalistic, so there is even more options on that.
| >>710207
>so there is even more options on that.
Dude, you're so dumb you even manage to confuse yourself with your own post.
| >>710215 and you are so up your own arguements that cant even see somebody who disagrees with you without acting like... that!
Literally all I did was not answer your question the way you wanted and you start having a temper tamtrum over it, If I lack skills for a discussion then you lack maturity.
| >derailing
there are pros and cons to every economic system, and you can have your own opinions, but imo capitalism is best on a large-scale basis. communism is best in small communities, where equality can be afforded.
there's a fine line however: too much of either side is bad. pure capitalism and pure communism just leads to bad times: gotta strike a balance
| >>710709
also if you like:
https://fee.org/articles/extreme-poverty-rates-plummet-under-capitalism/
interesting reading. tldr, capitalism helps elevate the impoverished
| >>710167
Strawman arguments may be a bad style, but that makes them not inherently false. You may criticize >>63ba96 for bad style but not for beeing wrong in the argument. And I find this strawman wasn't that far from reality, compared to the stupid and harmful conspiracy theories you have to hear definitively more often from the political right corner these days. They are pretty similar to all that "jewish-bolshevism" bullhit from the nazis in the 30s.
| >>710709
The thing is "pure capitalism" and "pure communism" never existed.
The only difference is that pure capitalism would be a very dystopian goal while "pure communism" is utopian and that there always were more tendencies to capitalism then to communism - even in "communist countries", which affected "capitalist countries" in a positive way (socially tamed capitalism), as long they could keep up the illusion (!) to be a threat to capitalism itself.
| >>710847
If what he's saying is true then why does he need to resort to logical fallacies in the first place?
If your point can't stand on its own its wrong aka false.
| The worker has fallen in love with the system that exploits them lmaooo
| >>711146 most people are very fine with life as long as they have a roof, food, water and a bit to spend on flufs such as enterteinment or more expensive food, so if someone is in that condition they really dont have to complain and want to dismantle capitalism, also if corruption of didnt exist most people could live like that so capitalism is viable, what is not viable are corrupt people, wonder when will people learn that?
| >>711146
It's not so rare that there even slaves that are fine with beeing slaves and women who actually are ok with partriarchy. The big issue is that they expect everyone else to be ok with it too.
Also it's very comfortable not to take responsibility for your own live, as long the authorities you trust in aren't too corrupt - which in reality is only a question of time.
| There are countries that temporarily managed to tame capitalism well.
There were even countries that managed to reform feudalism and could at least delay absolutism/despotism developments. But they only did it to encounter revolutionary menace and not out of insight that feudalism is an outdated and stupid type of reign.
| Op you stupidity amuses me... Continue to post
| penis
| Capitalism, ho
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| Just look at Chile how great it works. As the great liberator of chile and hero of the free and democratic world Augusto Pinochet once said:
>Democracy carries within its breast the seed of its own destruction. There is a saying that 'democracy has to be bathed occasionally in blood so that it can continue to be democracy.
What a unexpected honest description of what "democracy" in the context in capitalism means.