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trans women are women
| yes, theyre women. just trans. like trans digivolved
| gender is just a social construct, gender is just a spook, traps aren't gay, the dick is very good.
| ((i)) =/= 8===D
| >>70528
I have another fact for you:
Masses are not interested in facts.
They prefer more simple 'alternative facts' since a lot of the 'official facts' were nothing but lies.
Political left ideals became hostages of capitalists and are slowly sacrificed for the sake of capitalism.
| water is wet
| Thank you op
| Trans girls represent!
| if she was born with a vagina yes. otherwise kill it with fire
| I don't like to be insensitive, but if a girl has a penis, then she's not a girl, no matter what she says.
| >>72500 Eat a dick and fucking die.
>>72587 why? if they want to be a girl then let her, it doesn't bother anyone and the girl will be happier that way.
| >>72803 we label things for a purpose. if you call a dog a cat just because it wants to be a cat doesnt mean you should. it breaks the system, and tbh some of the system actually works
| >>72803 i mean sure, tell people to die. that would make the world a more peaceful place to live in
| No they are trans women not women jyst stating a fact bruh
| >>72953 meant it for>>72523 just copy the wrong number sorry.
>>72952 by your point of view society wouldn't move a inch to get better cause it works for some people and thats good enough for them, meanwhile everyone else its trying to survive with whats left.
at this point im not even talking about gender because this can be applied to everything, from politics to milk, as long as there is a part of a population who have the real power then they can make what the labels are.
| You ether have a dick or a vagina. That's it. Traps are just gay men trying to look nice.
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| What does being a woman entail?
| It's okay as long they don't lie about their original sex imo
| Does transwomen can sleep in canada
| transwomen are penises
| gender is a spook
| >>73799 you dont get it. You were thinking what I meant were the extremes. I did say some of the system works. If you disregard set rules then its anarchy, and with anarchy comes change (to some degree) but it becomes an endess cycle. We dont see any improvement from that either. Sometimes you just gotta settle with whats on the table. Looking for more than whats there will lead you to a bigger mess
| Y e s.
| Milk a bull
| Trannys aren't people
| Trans women are women. And 100% more powerful than any douchebag who says otherwise
| I didn't realize this was a SJW palace. I might delete this app
| Transwomen are women
| Look, and don't get triggered pls, I believe you are a boy or a girl that's it. Not saying its wrong to be trans or any thing but it all comes down to science you were born a boy or a to l you can't deny that. Of course you can change genders but scientifically due to chromosome and shit. Your a boy or a girl that's it.
| >>79211
But anon, you're forgetting about the rare monstrosities known as intersex people, who have too few or too many chromosomes or have partially malfunctioning chromosomes, causing them to have no genitals, both genitals, ambiguous genitals, or other things like not developing secondary sex characteristics during puberty!
...that said, for convenience even those people probably identify as either male or female anyway lol.
| Gender may be a social construct in the sense of roles, but sex is real and determined by chromosomes. Sex is also strongly correlated with gender. I don't mind people feeling as though they would prefer to be one gender over another, so long as their definition that they create for themselves does not obligate others to ignore obvious correlations or console them about their choice. As long as their identity doesn't hinge on other peoples recognition, I'll believe what they say.
| Currently my boyfriend is changing genders so weird timing for me to find this board. I think the hardest part for me is going to remember his new name lol. Oh! I should start saying she soon huh?
| >>79211 >>79247 >>79398
People used to say the same stuff about genitals. Having a penis or* a vagina is unchangable and the mark of a man or a woman.
Now that we can change that shit with surgery we say that chromosomes are the new goalpost. The mark of a man or woman.
Once we get cheap Gene mods what's defining male and female anymore?
| okay but im still not fucking someone with a penis. still feels weird to me
| >>79474 At that point sex becomes gender; more than just two(or three if you counted hermaphrodites as their own sex). It'll then jump up to however many variations we can make. Hell we could maybe even cross the boundary of animal and human with such technology, making veganism a more hot-topic. But, for now this is just science fiction, or at least a few decades away from us. Currently, however, we have the social construct: gender, and the biological variants: m, f, and h.
| Man is man. Woman is woman. The rest of this is nonsense spewed by the frail minded, those with agendas to push or simply those with far too much time to waste so they think in circles.
The future is lilim.
>Dorithinquisition
| >>79474 Come back when cheap, full, biological/chemical/psychological & physiological sex changes become a thing and I'll let you call yourself whatever pronouns you want. Until then XX is female, XY is male and everything else is aberrant.
| >>79875
If from an outside perspective someone appears a gender they weren't born, you should refer to them as such. Not even out of respect, just because going around and trying to dna test everyone so some people can be discriminated is ridiculous.
| >>79707
If you're still here I'd love to indulge you. What agendas are furthered by trans rights? The only thing I can think of is that we start respecting more people.
| anyone in this thread smoke weed?
| I smoke futa dick
| >>80297
Trans have exactly the same rights as any other. Unless your in some shitty country. But dont start spouting shit like we need specific toilets or trans option on things like driver licenses. Your were still born as either a male or female
| >>80481
I'm not spouting anything like that, just that you should be able to change what your ID says if you look another (gender/sex/whatever). It's just weird to have people who are clearly male now have female on their ID.
| >>80507
And thus the whole attack helicopter meme was born. Just because it does not affect people does not make it true
| indeed
| >>80516
But that's just a meme though.
Actual trans people don't want to be a helicopter. If they do then they're lunatics so don't take them seriously.
Although you probably just hate transgender people and think they're all lunatics, I'd like to point out that pointing at trolls as an example of a group of people is not a very good argument.
| I will refer to them as women, but unless they somehow managed to change their chromosomes, they are not women to me. For me there are lots of sexual orientations, but only 2 genres
| lol @ these people who chromosomes matter to a social constrct
"Hey I got XY chromosones, what are yours so that I can call you to your true pronoun?"
so ridiculous.
| ._. so much hate
| >>80507 I'm not upset, OP made a statement, I disagreed with it. If it's any consolation I have no real issue with you calling yourself whatever gender you want as long as a: I don't have to care and b: you understand the dichotomy between sex & gender
| >>80836
What are you even talking about. Why would i hate trans people? This is why there is a endless discussion. Just because i dont think they need special treatment doesnt mean i hate them
| >>79474
Don't confuse grammatical with social constructed and/or biological gender/sex.
That's the core problem about all this discussion.
Gender-identity is overrated at all. The most important thing is to have a consciousness as a human beeing. The second important thing is your social-economic class. All other identies are less important and all struggles between and about them are derived from class struggle.
| >>81496
Everything does originate from the class struggle, but discrimination of other identities is a powerful tool of oppression. To ignore intersectionality is to give the ruling class extra power.
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| Honestly i believe this whole thing just stems from a case of "The grass is greener on the other side." I know lots of trans people and nearly all of them got into it after crossdressing and receiving positive feedback on the net. They had tough lives and were depressed and thought "Shit, my life would have been better if i was born a dude/girl". And everything goes downhill from there. When you're depressed, you dont run away from your depression, you try to cure it. Same here.
| lol @ these people who think they know every transgender person even tho each one of them has a unique reason. >>82843 >>81952 >>81496
| All humans are trash it does not matter how you identify yourselves
| You can't legally change your biological structure. You're just a man with a mental illness.
| Haha, thanks for the compliments, but there's so much you can do to try to explain to them. I think as time goes by it'll be alot more understandable to the public so I try not to get stressed too much. In fact discussions like this probably does more good than harm considering how they're making a fool of themselves like "legally changing your biological structure"
| Are traps women?
| Is trap a polite way to call the ones who dress as people think they shouldn't?
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| This is not a discussion thread, I'm just stating the facts