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Victim blaming is bullshit
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PC culture says "It's not her fault! that could have happened to anyone!"
Logic says "Low income+high crime rate+expensive shiny new car+very obvious expensive tv+an opportunity= a very good chance to be robbed."
Its not her fault, but common sense would indicate that stopping a transport worth $150,000 or more in a place known for high crime is a bad idea. Easy target.
| A girl is about to pass out drunk in an alley behind a bar dressed in really skimpy cloths. It's not a bad part of town, but it's late at night and there are homeless people and criminals on the streets. She has no friends with her and passes out a few meters from the back door to the bar behind a dumpster. She gets abducted and raped.
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People, the victim's aren't entirely at fault, but they also aren't completely innocent. More often than not, the reason a victim becomes a victim is because common sense precautions weren't taken to prevent the crime in the first place.
| Situation is everything. Victims wouldn't be victims if they weren't the most convenient option for a criminal.
Either don't look like a target or protect yourself accordingly if you are. A criminal is always going to take the seemingly easiest score. A locked, expensive, lifted suv? Or a locked luxury car? They're going to go for the luxury car because they can easily reach the window to break it or jimmy the door open.
| Don't be an easy target and you won't be a victim. The PC culture seems to think that the victim is completely blameless for a crime, as if it isn't a stupid move to leave your gucci purse and iphone x on the table when you get up to refill your drink.
| The perpetrator is guilty of their crimes, regardless of the stupidity of the victim. The victim is guilty of being stupid, but that isn't a legal offense.
| Listen numbnuts it's called having basic maners, if the lady got robbed or if someone got raped you don't said that it's their fault, cause that will make them feel worse and it's just a dickish move.
Have you idiots got so caught with the PC culture that you forgot to have empathy? Your not supposed blame them not because it's pc, your suppose to do it cause your a human being with basic feelings and you'll want other people to support you if it happens to you.
Learn to be a human
| Because we live in a society
| We are always responsible for what happens to us, but that doesn't mean we are guilty of it.
| Target = potential victim.
Crime -> victim.
Victim -> target.
No target -> no victim.
No victim -> no crime.
No target -> no crime.
That's what OP is saying, and it's true.
But the problem is that the starting point of this is crime.
Targets are not victims unless a crime happens.
Crime is to blame for the existence of victims.
You can't blame the consequence instead of the cause.
You can't blame targets for being victims.
You can't blame victims for crimes.
| OP is true, sluts that refuses to wear niqab deserve to be raped. It's their fault for displaying their skin and basically asking for it.
| Not all victims are stupid though.
| Let's imagine the mongol horde raging across Europe way back when. They come upon a city with strong walls, but the men supposed to be manning the walls are off drinking & gambling. With nobody protecting the city, it is promptly & violently sacked & burned, a situation which might well be called raping the city.
The mongols are unquestionably guilty of & responsible for the destruction of that city & others. But the guards are to blame for letting it happen to them in particular.
| >>413067
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>>413085
With all that said... I'm not a citadel with walls and guards. So I guess you're right about the guards. They failed to their duty, they're guilty of that.
| There is no such thing as an guilt free victim
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But there is pretty hard to think about guilt of a victim. I guess it looks like... Ugh... Stupidity?
| >>413371
I think what they meant is that people feel guilt when they're the victim, regardless of holding no part in the blame.
| >>412953 This.
No crime is victimless, but no victim blameless. There are, however, situations where the victims are entirely innocent, such as terrorist attacks or that kind of thing.
More often than not though, the victim did something avoidable that put them in the position of a target.
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| A pregnant lady gets carjacked while checking her phone at a red light in a really shitty part of town with a well-known high crime rate. While she could have taken the highway, she wanted to take a shortcut and go the back route home instead to save some time. She was driving a white 2019 BMW M5. There was a brand new 52 inch qled smart tv, for her daughter's 16th birthday, propped up in the car, still in the box.
Why was she carjacked?