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dange/r/ing centrist ideological books
| Hmmmm
| I feel 1984, Farenheit 451, and Rapture make a well rounded trio.
| centrism is just as useful as water on an oil fire and it's followed by idiots who think they're smarter than everyone else for standing for absolutely nothing
| To the contrary, compromise amd moderation are the basis of most practical solutions. By meeting in the middle, both sides may come to an agreement, creating real chamge instead of endless bickering.
| >>407568
I do not agree. I follow centrism because it's what best for the common working man: be it rich, poor, black or white. fascism, capitalism and comunism have their own pros and cons and being a purist/extremist and choosing one is choosing both their pros and cons. focusing on pros is what centrists should do.
I've yet to see a purist system that hasn't collapsed and left all of their people in despair. this is what I think about those who you think "stand for something":
| >>407626
communism has left rampant poverty in eastern europe. collapsed in 1989.
fascism/statism despises minorities and generates inflation and fiscal deficit. collapsed with the fall of the axis.
capitalism exploits foreign countries to sustain itself and shows no mercy to the poor working men. collapses in cycles, the last collapse was in 2008.
| >>407626 >>407627
Except on this day and age the only thing centrists do is suck capitalist dick and lick nationalist asshole.
If you really think like that, you should go full futurist and try to come up with a new system that leaves the previous flawed systems behind; because centrism is just the upholding of the status quo.
Don't get me wrong, I agree on your principles as stated here, I just don't think centrism honors them.
| >>407626
Natsoc Germany collapsed because most of the world went against them for daring to have pride in themselves and not bend over for anyone. You can hardly attribute this to a failure of the ideology. Conditionals internally were excellent.
| >>408037
very well, I will look into it. many "anti-everything" ideologies pique my interest, specially mutualism, so I'll research further.
nonetheless, I'm a romantic nationalist myself, and I do not believe in rationalism, accelerationism, positivism nor technocracies.
| >>408153
they got jumped on because they got unlucky, that's it. who knows, by chance they could have allied with the comitern and gang up on the allies, or join the allies and fuck up the comitern.
I simply do not want to follow such a weak ideology. fascist sell themselves as strong but get btfo'd at every opportunity
| >>408162
They got jumped on not by some "roll of the dice", it was a concentrated effort to destroy the nation attempting to extract its people from slavery. To triviliaze it as " bad luck" suggests a weak understanding of history.
| >>408173
pfft, stop trying to shill your shit-tier doctrine. you guys are weak like sick kittens.
a yank or a soviet could come up with the same stupid and shallow discourse you're spewing right now.
>hurr durr we good they bad
dissappointed but not suprised.
| Centrism gives too much power to the overton window. Case in point, Democrats in US would be considered right/center right anywhere else. By consistently ceding middle ground to an uncompromising far right who won’t meet you in the middle, you look like a leftist for opposing trump and the start of an authoritarian path. Don’t give ground to the intolerant. They only will choke you with what you give them and no amount of “playing fair” will fix that.
| Any ideology can be "centrist", but no ideology will ever really be "centrist". These days "centrism" just means "neoliberalism" which slowly transforms into nazism/fascism. Centrism is a word without meaning.
| wtf is this with nazis here
| in the past feudalism was centrism as well. The only progress is left progress.
| >>408277
I think that every good centrist must oppose extremism. that's pretty much the cause of authoritarism rising to power. radicals crush their opposition and implement tyranny.
>>408326
maybe. certainly, lassiez-faire could very well be a moderate motto. I do not think that fascism/nazism correlate with centrism, nonetheless, since statophilia is by no means a moderate approach to politics.
| >>408392
I find this weird aswell. as I see it, va11halla is certainly a liberal game made by liberals. but you CAN find weeb haters at some imageboards, tho. the internet is a strange place
| >>408863
you see, I do not believe progress exists. and mind you, some leftists are quite reactionary. after all, scientific research may have brought us many good things, but it also helped build weapons used in the biggest carnages in human history, without mentioning atomic bombs. some traditionalism and resistance to change is good in measured quantities
| Everything in balance.
| >>408891
>I think that every good centrist must oppose extremism.
Neoliberalism is an extremist ideology.
>I do not think that fascism/nazism correlate with centrism
Most "centrists" are just neoliberals in disguise. Currently the rise of the far-right is the rotten fruit of centrist (=neoliberal) politics. Also centrists rather ally with the far right than considering just to think about the far left criticism on their politics.
| >>408153
There's a wide gaping gulf between "not bending to anyone" and blitzkrieg'ing most of europe because, GET THIS, they had right to "living room" and the rest didn't.
It's in everybody else's best interests to not give fascism half an inch to cling for their dear lives, because fascism doesn't give even that to anybody else.
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| literature is fine too ( ´・ω・` )