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Madden Shooting happening right NOW
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1k4Xh79XQA
| OP here again. You can actually see a laser sight. What the fuck.
| Why would anyone do this at a gaming to tournament?? Like what the fuck
| At least it was madden and not a civilized game. Damn, though. So this is where we're at? Random mass murder at tournaments?
Cyberpunk as fuck.
| Damn wtf
| It just hit TV
| 'MURICA FUCK YEAH!
https://youtu.be/U1mlCPMYtPk
| https://www.theonion.com/no-way-to-prevent-this-says-only-nation-where-this-r-1819576527
| Meanwhile Americans are preventing shootings everyday. And somehow shootings are only bad if they hit the suburbs and successful, if it's the ghetto, it's only a tragedy if a white kid is passing through or is the perpetrator.
| >>392731
No bait. >>de1075 wrote truth.
I begin giving a fuck about shootings like this. Too many US-Americans were dumb enough to regulary elect NRA lobbyists and "war presidents". Opposition movements always were and are weakned by commercialisation. It's a failed state. People in other countries had and still have to pay a higher price for the "american dream", which itself is nothing but an empty promise to fool the poor. Maybe shootings in the US will become UNESCO heritage.
| >>392690 there's a major difference between the two. In one side this happens in a private space and presumably by 2 figures in a conflict. Here this happens in a public space which is presumed to be a safe area where a firearm would not be needed.
Also, this argument doesn't work because the first victim to go is this black man.
| >>392690 Way too many black kids shoot each other for anyone to give a shit anymore. Happens too often, people are desensitized.
This isn't even going to stay in the news for a week.
| 3 Dead, 11 Injured according to Metro
| People in poor areas where a firearm is necessary for their safety are given misinformation and denied gun rights by local/state officials. Nobody in the ghetto can afford a gun safe, the extra fees, required training, or to wait. I just think that when people talk about a majority white group getting killed or try to ignore gang violence, and then blame the NRA instead of the lack of parents or mental health treatment, someone has got their priorities wrong.
| That's more a problem with a criminal "justice" system designed to serve the rich then a result of gun control.
| >Americans in this thread
so explain me why this is such an American problem?
Around the world you have accidents with guns, gang's, mass shootings. But no where near thr American niveau.
There are even countries around the world which never experienced a school shooting.
And most who have experienced school shooting only had a handful of them.
| >>393548 It's even weirder since the Czech republic basically has similar gun laws to the US and you can get weapons in a straightforward manner.
In my opinion the problem is that guns always end up in the hands of someone with mental issues. There should be a psychological examination on those that want to keep their guns. This way the Americans can keep their gun laws but also not having retards killing innocent people over and over again.
| >>393548
First it is an US-american phenomenom, not a general american. Canada for example does much better.
Secondly: Yes, there are also shootings and violence in other countries, also in central- and south america. BUT there is a big difference, as a lot of US-american cititizens are enormously proud of their country, leading (and elected) politicians call other countries "shitholes" while systematically lead wars support extremists and dictators there over decades.
| At this point, it is in the news so much and people talk about it so much I am not surprised that there is a shooting. Sad to say but even in schools it seems normal to hear about a shooting...
| I don't think it to be a culture of violence thing, more of a lack of parenting nowadays, still a culture issue. The corelations to more guns equals more violence isn't really there. Its almost always in a gun free zone with a lack of security, with a person who would have gotten a gun anyways because of intent. They had shootings much worse in Russia, France, and with the whole Breivik thing. I think it's culture. We didnt have this with machine guns. Now we have it with handguns.
| >>394056
>The corelations to more guns equals more violence isn't really there.
In the country I live common people don't have guns. So there are no (because there technically can't be) shootings that often and easy like in the USA. It's not only a correlation, it's a causal and logical relation.
I don't get how this is so hard to understand/accept. The weapon fetishism of alot US-citizens is pathological ignorant to facts and logic. There's also a corelation to political culture
| >>394239 I have plenty of guns, I should be long dead by now. Also gangbangers arent going to their local gun shop to run a background check. We have guns to protect ourselves since the government fails to. We aren't subjects in the US. Most gun deaths are suicides in the US btw, how do there deaths count as violence. Statistically speaking, people are gonna use what they got, whether it's a gun, car, knife, pressure cooker, hammer.
| >>394327
>Also gangbangers arent going to their local gun shop to run a background check.
Yes they go to someone who goes to a local gun shop for them. The background check is a joke and the fact that there are local gun shops at all makes it almost impossible to control if the guns from there aren't resold.
| >>394381
Oh, and for how long did the czech republic have this gun laws? Just wait 50 years keeping it, and it'll be the same as in the USA, which has it for hundreds of years. Please stop comparing apples with carrots.
| >>394327
>I have plenty of guns, I should be long dead by now.
Please explain your strange logic. It's not really clear what you mean here. It just doesn't make sense.
>We have guns to protect ourselves since the government fails to
No you don't. Else Administrations like under MCarthy, Bush or Trump would have been overthrown in a couple of weeks. In reality weapons will be used to hunt down people suspected as foreigners and/or socialists, when it comes to the worst.
| >Statistically speaking, people are gonna use what they got, whether it's a gun, car, knife, pressure cooker, hammer.
If you have the choice beeing at a mall attacked by someone with a knife or with a gun, which option do you choose? And pls. don't say "I would have a gun myself to stop the attacker", because then you want to live in a world ruled by the mob or the one who shoots faster. It's not the fucking wild-west anymore. Start getting civilized!
| Game over man
| >>394497 Not an American nor do I care about the gun debate, but there's no fucking way you can start banning guns or make laws to control them effectively now. Just give up.
| True, but they should still try to regulate it where they can, like in urban areas particularly. Imo people should do more than a simple background check. They have to get a training license and a psychological evaluation before purchasing a firearm. Banning all guns is pretty stupid, especially considering how hard it is for the US to control their people and American's fetish with guns.
| >>394711
>there's no fucking way you can start banning guns or make laws to control them effectively now.
Ironically alot of people who believe this crap think there are and demand fucking ways to ban immigrants and make laws to control them effective now. Including a fucking ridiculous wall to Mexico.
I'm sorry to disappoint you, but there are ways to ban guns.
In my country you need a hunters-licence, which is connected to education about law, forestry and environmentalism.
| >>394711 What are you talking about? Just make guns illegal and confiscate them. It's not gonna happen because of the political climate but impossible? Get real.
| >>395131 I'm not saying it's impossible to ban them anywhere,just in the US, because of their culture and how many guns there are already.
>>395132 Correct me if I'm wrong, but afaik, there's barely any control over guns rn, so it'd be hard to confiscate them and the people who'd be the most dangerous (paranoids and those who are planning to use them) would manage to keep them and feel more powerful for it.
| >>395164 If guns were actually illegal and confiscated it'd be a big deal to see a non officer with one in public, so most of them would probably be reported when passerbys spot them before the owner gets a chance to use it.
| >>393570
You know what I mean lmao
The rest of the world calls the US America.
And when we talk about the continents we say north or south America :D
| >>395304
>The rest of the world calls the US America.
It doesn't change the fact, that it's underspecified. When I say "America" I mean North- and South America, nothing more and nothing less.
If the rest of the world jumps out of the window I don't have to follow them.
| He legally purchased 2 guns from a licensed seller despite having a record of mental health issues...
Gun laws in the US, and anyone who thinks they aren't a part of the problem, are a joke.
| >>395468
Then maybe stop the fuckin imperialism, through guns or culture, and maybe don't have such a shitty name. Then maybe, and just maybe the world would call you something else.
In German we can say "Amerika" or "Die Vereinigten Staaten von Amerika", and you are just not worth the time to waste so much many more seconds.
| The shooter is Jewish. Not white.
| He only shoot up the place because he lost a game of madden
| >>395482
I'll keep saying this until you g/u/rls get it through your heads, but the mentally ill are statistically less likely to commit violent crime than the mentally sound.
They're far more likely (~10x) to be victims of violent crime, but hey, sure, let's take away their weapons.
| >>395224
Rubbish, there is such a thing as concealed carry, you know. Odds are nobody would even realize the guy had a gun under a jacket or in baggy trousers.
>>394973
This is a good description, it really is a sort of fetish with firearms. I'd bet that in this age of compromised digital media there'd be more flack about banning firearms than for banning newspapers & magazines.
| The Jewish shooter also had mental illness problems.
https://ktla.com/2018/08/28/florida-madden-tournament-shooter-had-history-of-mental-illness-police-visits-to-family-home/
| >>396645
Mental illness is diagnosed inflationary in the USA (like in many industry nations). A lot of psychologists are nothing but modern voodoo doctors, exorcists and salesman for medication. Also alot of parents are stupid as the whole society suffers from symptoms/forms of mental illness, especially paranoia, schizophrenia and egomania.
And what's about this "he was jewish" thing? How is it meant and where is the source?
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