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Koch funded study finds medicare for all would save trillions

| A study funded by Koch finds that Medicare for all / Universal Healthcare would save the US trillions in the long term.
17 trillion within 10 years.


| They claim it can't be funded as well but it makes no sense with the other data. Not only that it doesn't take in account the US already subsidises large corporations for employee healthcare coverage.


| There'd have to be compensation for those that have already invested a huge amount into their medical funds. That's something I highly doubt would even be considered and systems like Obamacare have demonstrated that this works at a highly inefficient way. This also paves the way for huge corruption cases since it centralizes healthcare entirely by the government and thus makes it very simple to launder through.

I say it'd make more sense to have a fund for those below a


| >>379435 calculated wage as to help them while leaving those that can and have already funded their health to do so in peace. But then it would have to be structured better than Obamacare as to not have politicians like Trump immediately dismantle it. It should also have huge transparency in the form of some sort of data posted publicly.

Just the opinion of someone from Europe.


| >>379436
Thats fair.
Since it'd be a one time cost I'd support wiping out the existing debt. Or at last the government making all that debt no longer increase. However that is something harder to show the benefits for.


| Bitch you think policy writers give a fuck about logic and facts? Hell no.

Also let me remind you that this is a corporately funded study, and likely a scam to save corporations more money.


| >>380151
Thats not how studies work.
A study funded by antivaxxers came up with no link between vaccinations and autism.


| Koch funded study finds water is wet.


| >>380222
I agree.
Still its the fact it came out of the Koch pockets that adds to it.
It removes claims of bias as the result goes against their interest


| For those who don't want to page through the figures, the big numbers you should take home are that private insurance companies operate pay an average of ~30% of their budget to their administrators, whilst Medicare suffices with 3%. Imagine that, we could save so much money if we just slashed executive salaries by 90%.

For the record, that'd reset the ratio between executive & line worker salaries to roughly what it was during the days of Ford & Carnegie.


| >>380182 That is how studies work. They can run a study over and over and over again and throw away the results they weren't pleased with, while keeping the ones that suggest what they want.

It's called P hacking, and it's actually a hot button issue in academia right now.


| >>380312
Okay, an immprovable argument so lets move on from that pointlessness. Just as likely they kept getting the same results over and over because they're hard fact and not polling so lets move on.
This outright does not help Koch brothers.
One because they invest in friends in pharmaceutical industry.


| (((Koch Brothers)))


| >>380414
Congrats you accomplished nothing.
Would you like to try and form a rational thought for this discussion. At the very least if you didn't want to participate not posting would have had the thread die faster.


| Kochaaaaa


| Well mods looks like my thread ran its course.
Close if you want.

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