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| http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-44962581

| good.

| >>372723
You think the execution of people solves problems? Tell me one reason why people like you are an exception, since you share the belief in justified murder with the Aum members.

| >>372824 I think only criminals should be executed. Is that somehow unusual?

| >>372824
I'd like to point out the rather stark difference that the Aums believed that everyone who believed anything different from them would have to convert or die. They were a menace to society & in prison they were living off the taxes of the people they would've thought it a kindness to massacre (& some they in fact had tried to). I fail to see how letting them live does anything but create problems.

| >>372824 Aum ended up being a paranoid cult from the belief that there would be a third world war, and that anyone who wasn't killed by the cult would end up in hell.

There is no justification in defending what could be considered a terror attack, not to mention chemical attacks now are prohibited under the Chemical Weapons Convention, which prohibits posession, development and production and authorized their destruction.

| Why should Japan or any other country let a group of murderers from a cult walk free because "we're too afraid to offend people"?

| >>373448
No one here said/wrote this. And I never heard such a crap in any discussion about this topic.

| >>372847
To me people who think death penalty is a good thing are criminals. According to this logic it would be justified to murder them.

| Well let just admit that death penalty is just a good old (no) murder. It doesn't matter if you kill maniac, terrorist or cult member - you violated a person's right to life, ok?
On the other hand, a terrorist-maniac-cult member was ready to kill (or have already killed someone), so we kill him to protect ourselves. But it's still murder and it's still bad. We just need to admit that we do terrible things to protect ourselves against other terrible things.

| >>373579 that's how I feel, people who praise the death penalty as some sort of criminal deterrent don't realize it usually does more harm than good

Imho it should be reserved for cases like this (and mass murderers, serial rapists and serial killers) where the prisoner is an actual danger to the public and likely to commit another crime.

| I'm shocked it took this long.

| I always see the punishment factor as a means to warn people what would happen if you do a certain crime. But if some maniac wants to do some terror attack he is she doesnt fear the death penalty.

| >>373634
The issue is, that death penalty is irreversible and always contains the risk if missusage by politicians.
Locking someone away is way more reasonable. The risk that a criminal gets free is much smaller than the risk of having a missusage of death penalty. Because the real mass murderer sit in their bureaus, deciding over death and lived with their pencils and plans.

| >>373679
That's the Jap court system for you, it took this long to exhaust all their appeals.

| >>373782
(he government can ask upstanding young men to fight & die to protect a nation & its people. If your concerned about misuse of political authority it should be with this, not execution of a few people at a time.

Besides, if politicians wanted to off someone in prison they would just arrange a hit, they don't need a judge's consent.

| >>373684
punishment factor does not work. In the end only the small thieves are punished, while the major criminals are the legalized punishers.
What are some weird cultist terrorists who killed a bunch of people compared to multi-national cooperations and governments that take killing thousands and millions of people into account to reach their goals (profit and power).
A lot of politicians and secret-service dudes in the US belong to a international court for war-crime.

| ...instead they get away with their shit and party hard about justice when some niggers are hung for officially minor crimes, but in truth for being niggers.

| >>372824 I'm against the death penalty as well, but what's the alternative for people who can't live in a society, really?
Just keep them in jail forever? Lobotomy? Try to give them therapy so they'll be perfectly valid and productive individuals? Every option seems completely awful for different reasons,tbh.