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Israel officially declared only Jewish state
| religion was a mistake
| >>366035
It has served political purposes and has done a good job at keeping large groups of people collected. Although it has lead to war and also basically prohibited progress in many technological fields in Europe during its heyday, I still say it's fine.
| >>366052
It did those things in past. Religion served us but now were serving it. Immigrants cant be accepted to other cultures because Islam is cancer and dont get me started on Judaism. It needs to die
| >>366035
Religion is always a tool for the ruling class to stay in power. Religious authorities are either the ruling class themselves or just feetlickers of the real ruling class, such as dictators, monarchs, oligarchs, etc.
| >>366083
Some countries are not based on religion.
Some are even founded on the basis of the human rights instead...
| Tell me about those places I want to live there...and yes religion is often cancer, islam more than most.
| >>366244
Tell me at least one country which was founded on the basis of the human rights.
Don't missunderstand me: I'm totally for human rights, but I don't see how it is a relevant value in world how it currently is. Many other things unfortunately seem to be more important.
| >>366433
Yeh, but their implementation had many bugs that weren't fixed for too long time. The should have make it open source.
| >>366437 communism should just be renamed open-sourxism would definitely get all the nerds on board and ideas are similar lol. Like how USSR had no patents and copyright laws heh
| >>366083
Religion gives people something larger than themselves & more profound thjan materialism to believe in, & to live for. If anything, from my perspective Marxist thought seems tantamount to religion, for example having faith in the eventual advent of a utopian paradise, though it be beyond any living person's capacity to imagine or understand, through the spread of a certain set of behaviors & beliefs.
| >>366900
>Religion gives people something larger than themselves & more profound thjan materialism to believe in, & to live for.
Or it is just Opium for the People to fool them about what causes their real live problems. It is no coincidence, that religious authorities are always tightly connected to profane power, either personal, institutional or by sharing the same way of life (materialism, pragmatism, luxury).
| >>366900
>If anything, from my perspective Marxist thought seems tantamount to religion, for example having faith in the eventual advent of a utopian paradise, though it be beyond any living person's capacity to imagine or understand, through the spread of a certain set of behaviors & beliefs.
The difference is that marxist utopias are about the real world and not about a afterlive where no one knows if it exists.
| But as there already are enough communism/marxism discussions in here (i know you can place it everywhere, since it wants to explain everything), back to the topic:
Does the new declaration of Israel as an "jewish state" also include black jews? I remember there recently were issues with black jews from africa beeing recognized as "real jews" by the israel government.
| >>367017
Are the people who want jim crow laws and ethnic cleansing gonna let in Black Jews? Im not sure tbh.
| >>367068
That's the thing.
Btw. In germany there are small but loud parts of the political left, which condemn any kind of criticism on the Israeli government as antisemitism. It's so ridiculous to see how some left secularists/laizists, anti-racists and anti-nationalist in germany show solidarity with the nationalist, racist and theocratic government in Israel.
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| Apologies for the null posts, phone got wet in the rain.
>>367002
That's not a distinction, there've been countless cults & branches of Christianity over the years that tout the coming of a Heaven on Earth. Ultraorthodox Jews believe the 3rd temple will be a material building created by God & signal the coming of his kingdom in the material world.
| >>367000
The dissemination of religious authority from corrupt temporal authorities has been point of countless religious reforms. The problem is that, just like the vanguard of the revolution in Russia, the leaders of these reforms naturally accrue authority, & even in Luther & Lenin weren't corrupted by it that authority will beget men like Stalin who see it as a tool for their own advancement & designs.
| religion isn't the issue, it's organized religion when you think about it. (¬_¬)
| Anyone who thinks this is a religion thing and not a blatant ethnostate is kidding themselves. Israel was caught deporting black jews and even sterilising them against their will in the past.
| ^
| Can somebody ELI5 why there so much shit in Israel and around?
| People are so blinded to the truth due the sheer amount of information. In 50 years you will see discovery items about the horrible things that are going on right now
| I Am mUzLem /s
| >>367335
>That's not a distinction, there've been countless cults & branches of Christianity over the years that tout the coming of a Heaven on Earth.
A true marxist/communist knows that heaven on earth does not come by an supernatural power. It comes from the people.
>Ultraorthodox Jews believe the 3rd temple will be a material building created by God & signal the coming of his kingdom in the material world.
It's not clear to me in which way this temple provides something useful.
| >>367344
>The dissemination of religious authority from corrupt temporal authorities has been point of countless religious reforms.
These reforms usually were powergames inside the church authorities or between them and other feudal (and later bourgeois) authorities. They did rarely contribute to improve peoples live.
While the rich enjoyed luxury discussing how many angels fit on the tip of a needle, poor people were told to shutup, serve, and pray for a better afterlife.
| >>368575
Historically there have been a number of 'religions' (I dislike the word since most ancient/nonwestern cultures have no equivalent concept, but there's no good substitute either) which have no practical spiritual element & yet dictate about how people ought to live & how the world has/will change over time. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deism for a prominent example.
| So Hitler put Jews on some sorta "endangered humans" list and now they're considered off the list enough to be "people owning state" status? Neat.
| Its pretty bad what is going on over there
| >>370622
But no, let's continue screaming at white people for using gendered pronouns and ignore literal genocide in the middle east.
| >>370887
I agree with your sentiment but the otherside is encouraging this behaviour and distracting with what you just screamed about
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| apartheid is official bois