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Trump and Putin meeting thread
| I just want peace
| Well I personally think that maybe Trump'll be the President to end the feud between Russia and the Usa. If only to piss of the Trumphaters XD
I dunno, knowing Trump he might just pull it of XD
| Given how the meeting with North Korea went better than anyone expected, I'm open to this one's results.
| Trump putting blame on US intel agencies while being easy on Russia is kinda weird. It seems like the guy cant go without any controversy following him.
| >>363810
Its almost like with Obama how they couldn't stop trying to make a scandal. I believe its partisan politics. Trump honestly just kisses up to who he think he can make a deal with to make himself look better. Get him in Ukraine and he'll talk about aggression from neighbors.
| Trump's an amazing magnet for criticism, I think this's the 1st time since 9/11 I've seen politicians & pundits so unified in condemning something. "I don't know why they would [influence our elections]." Fucking stupid.
In the words of Bob Corker; "...sometimes the president cares more about how a leader treats him personally than forcefully getting out there and pushing against things that we know have harmed our nation, and I thought that's what we all experienced today."
| >>363908 Um no. The scandals around obama were fabrications, like that stupid birth certificate.
The scandals around orangey actual real scandals, that he creates himself. Motherfucker wears scandal like I wear clothes.
| Obama is Benghazi. Change my mind.
| >>364536
Most of the scandals around Trump are either not at all scandalous (TWO SCOOPS!) or made up (Stormy Daniels). Same shit!
| >>364683
Depends on what you consider a scandal. Calling a fat woman fat is not a scandal. Being caught in a child prostitution ring is.
| >>364099 So you really think it's russian hackers who made Trump president? There is not a single piece of proof to confirm these delusions. I get the picture administration just says - well you know democracy ftw and all that but we only allowed trump to be candidate as a joke, he can't be elected by popular vote and that's bullshit. I mean it's like denying what the damn country supposed to stand for. I remember times when people needed proof to say anything of national relations
| >>365944 Trump is a weird case since he didn't have much of the popular vote. He instead got the electoral one (hence the salt after he won). I find the US voting system interesting since it doesn't really leave a president chosen by the masses alone.
| >>365946
The American electoral system is so peculiar because it was originally designed with the fact in mind that the masses would never be competent to make political decisions & the relevant partisan institutions (conventions, caucuses, & primaries) have evolved in turn to displace each other & change the centralze power within the parties.
| >>365946 >>366923 Such and arrogant and offensive way of doing things, it presumes that some of those institutions are made of higher beings better than most people and well, democracy doesn't mean the will of the majority? Everyone I've seen mocks the US electoral system as complicated, confusing and undemocratic.
| >>367131
Ity wasn't meant to be democratic. The writings of the people who designed the Constitution are out there to read, they made a very sweeping distinction between 'democratic' & 'republican' government. The latter saw the educated & experienced few making decisions on behalf of the many, while the people's job would be to elect whom they thought would make the best decisions for the country & defer to their judgment. The former was viewed by most of the founding fathers...
| ...as an inherently anarchical "tyranny of the masses" best given a wide berth. Several suggested the primary reason French Revolution devolved into such a bloody mess was that it tried to be too democratic.
That's also why there're two Houses of Congress. The people could restrain tyranny of the few through the House (when districts were smaller & there were no formal parties) & the Senate could restrain the foolishness of the masses (back when Senators were appointed by states).
| Of course the only thing about that they teach in grade schools these days is the conflict between big states & small states, but if that were the only reason there'd be no need for appointment of senators rather than election on the same ballot as we do today, the higher age limit, staggered terms, etc.
| but guys what if he brings Putin to the USA and he fucks shit up?
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| Opinions? Expectations? Discuss.