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Multiculturalism Question

| Ive been redpilled on all the cons of multiculturalism but what are some advantages? Besides hot foreigners


| 1 You don't limit possible intellectual scouting and athletic.
2 Different cultures have different cultural solutions to problems. See Japan with cleandliness being teaching kids as soon as possible.
3 Its literally impossible to not have multiculturalism. Food, words, etc. A reminder english is a mix of french celtic noweigen and german.

Anyone who "redpilled" you is a moron and so are you for using that retarded phrase.


| >>334775 It's fine that you give Japan as an example because that's one country with a very low level of multiculturalism yet proceeds on higher results.

The redpill on it is genuine and time and time again show how nations that stay pure also yield good results in the end.


| >>334780
Bullshit like japan is pure. They have so many western influences that it bleeds into practically every bit of their government and economy. Their military was founded on prussian values, their constitution modeled after the US and having traded scientific notes with the Netherlands for the longest fucking time. No such thing as "purity". Redpill is still fucking dumb as shit.


| OP what is your source? Can you provide a link?


| >>334784
"The Meiji Constitution was the fundamental law of the Empire of Japan[...] It provided for a form of mixed constitutional and absolute monarchy, based on the Prussian and British models."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_Japan

"The Imperial Army General Staff Office, created after the Prussian model of the Generalstab, was established directly under the emperor in 1878."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_military_modernization_of_1868–1931

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| >>334784

"With the Act of Seclusion (1636), Japan was effectively cut off from Western nations for the next 200 years (with the exception of a small Dutch outpost in Nagasaki Harbor)."
https://www.history.com/topics/meiji-restoration

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Just putting that out there.


| Op here. Theres not a particular source per se, but there was this one video that kinda sent me down the rabbit hole.


| This is the video
https://youtu.be/-GMm28ASJx8

Just a warning Im not a white nationalist or anything like that


| >>334815
You don't have to apologise for feelings that are perfectly normal.


| >>334958
Im not saying that to apologise. Im just not a white nationalist is all


| >>334772
There are no advantages and no disadvantages. Multiculturalism is a meaningless propaganda term. Because it assumes there was, is or should be study. like a "clean" homogeneous culture, which doesn't exist.
The discussions about "multiculturalism" are nothin but distracts from the real issues of humanity: the lack of human rights and democracy, the gap between poor and rich, environment destruction, militarism and warfare, racism, nationalism and religious fundamenalism.


| >>335083 look at all the commie countries from the last century and see how different they turned out. Closing your eyes and pretending culture isn't relevant to how we make decisions is quite foolish. Your lack of understanding that is one of many reasons why people dislike your ideology.


| So, the main problem of multiculturalism is it's a populistic approach to cultures. A culture can either embrace other cultures or antagonize against it. You can't have two people of different ethos accept each other's ethos. The only solution is to apply a meta-ethos to both of them, that "you can have your religion, but there's something more important than your religion, called multiculturalism and tolerance".


| What multiculturalism really can do is mix all cultures together to make a homogenic new culture. With western approach this will end up as a consumerism-driven dystopia.

Change my mind.


| Well Russia is multicultural and it is kinda interesting to meet people of so many ethnicities.


| >>335087
Why does it always have to be so extreme? No one denied that there are cultural differences. It's just discutable how much they matter facing circumstances and issues that go deeper and are present in all cultures. Often things just seem different on the surface, but digging deeper you'll find out they often are just the same shit in different tastes.


| multiculturalism isn't noticed much in everyday life. a girl at my uni wears a hijab, i know this african dude who makes his own traditional shirts, the old thai lady next door likes to have me over for dinner. it's something you just kinda pass by and not really pay attention to unless you cared in the first place.


| so i can't think of any advantages or disadvantages. maybe a more friendly/open environment? if i step into an all-white neighborhood, i'm going to feel a lot more of an outsider than if i stepped into a mixed neighborhood


| >>335298
Same dude. Im black but I grew up in an afro-asian neighborhood so whenever Im in all black event I get wormish.


| There seems to be a misunderstanding amongt some of the posters here. Multiculturalism is not the synergy or fusion of different cultures, but different cultures actually coexisting, so while Japan has indeed adopted many American customs & loanwords, because that is largely a uniform part of Japanese culture amongst the younger generations it can't be said to be an example of multiculturalism. Other than typical regional & urban/rural differences their culture is quite homogenous.


| >>335689
>...their culture is quite homogenous.
Except all the immigrants from southeast-asia working in the low-loan sector in Japan.
Yes, japanese culture is more homogenous than others (since it's an island), but still has many influences from other cultures like buddhism, which originally came from India. Also the letters/characters they use to write are from china.
Politics which tried to protect japanese culture was always attached to technological-economical backwardness.


| >>335689
>Multiculturalism is not the synergy or fusion of different cultures, but different cultures actually coexisting
No, what you describe is ethnopluralism, which is a right-winger concept.
Multiculturalism is a condition for synergy or fusion of different cultures. Ethnopluralism wants to keep it separated, in case of doubt by force.


| >>335705
As defined in Oxford;

"The presence of, or support for the presence of, several distinct cultural or ethnic groups within a society."

This requires the actual presence of multiple coexisting cultures. If synergy & fusion counted there would be no such thing as a society that wasn't 100% multicural.


| >>c34e8b here btw.


| >>335874
Your definition does not explicit exclude synergy and fusion.
As I said, multiculturalism is a condition for it. Without
>The presence of, or support for the presence of, several distinct cultural or ethnic groups within a society." (As defined in Oxford)
...there is no synergy and fusion possible. And again: Multiculturalism does not want to keep cultures separated like the right-wingers concepts like "ethnopluralism" wants it.


| >>336342 Asia is a very different beast compared to Europe or Africa. That's something that you aren't familiar with. The exchange of languages within Asia has been minimum for instance. In Europe all languages are nicely interbred with one-another.
>But Japan uses the Chinese alphabet
Japan has 3 alphabets of which Kanji was the one stealing Chinese letters (almost all of which have different meanings and pronunciation to the Chinese).


| >But Japan uses Buddhism!!
Except one of the strongest beliefs in Japan has historically been the belief of deities such as animals and different elements. This has made Japan extremely distinct religiously from India and can also demonstrate their much higher war behavior compared to the Indians which follow a passive way of life.


| >>336365 wtf Shinto isn't about war in any way


| >>336367 However due to the lack of unity and the seeing of gods as a force that doesn't control people but watches over them there is no element of peace either. Thus conditions of war are much more plausible. Have you noticed that Japan primarily stops being at war once the element of the emperor chosen by the gods appears?

I suppose you could treat that as the equivalent of Europe's Christianification which speaks of the king chosen by the gods to rule the people.


| >>336371 every religion can be aggressive, buddhists are currently slaying muslims right now in Myanmar


| >>336376

Militarist buddhist monks in the modern age was one of the strangest things I've ever seen.


| >>336364
The Mongolian empire was one of the largest empires the world has ever seen. Their reign left footprints all over Asia (except some far-far away Pacific islands) and connected it with europe down to Hungary.
Also regions like Southeastasia and the Himalaya were bridges to india, Persia, Arabia and africa. There were phases of isolation, especially in Japan and China, but they were not so relevant compared to the long history of exchange. I know history well!


| >>336371
The inner conflicts ended, yes. But the "god chosen emperor" turned out to be just a puppet to the new class of industrialist bourgeoisie that sent their people into pointless wars in the name of profits and imperialism.


| >>336478 These wars that you speak of happened exactly during what you say is the multicultural era of Japan after they were forcefully opened up by the United States. Japan had a long lasting peace of several hundred years with no military conflicts to speak of.


| >>336550
Your definition of "multicultural" has no meaning because everyone was always multicultural by your definition. Previous to admiral perry the Dutch traded with Japan and traded goods and technologies with them. Previous to that, China did. So Japan was "always multicultural"..


| >>336550
>Japan had a long lasting peace of several hundred years with no military conflicts to speak of.
Is that what is told to people under the grand leader shinzo abe?
Pls learn japanese History. It's a history of endless and pointless wars between feudal clans.


| >>336775 well under Tokugawa Japan was relatively peaceful and no clans wars occured. Learn a bit of history


| >>336477
>I know history well!
Give it up! US-Americans don't know of any history that was before ~1700.


| >>336783
And what exactly was Tokugawas profession? Oh, yes he was a WARlord. And what are 50 Years of peace facing hundreds and thousands years of war? Just a short breather.


| At the end of the day homo sapiens needs as many of each other as we can get and we have to help each other. We're the only species on this damn planet domesticating other species.

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