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Feeling like mexico is hopeless

| Im a Mexican citizen and i really think that our government is fucked, the politicians that want to do actually a good job and improve our lives get killed, corruption is now apart of our culture, people always complain that the government is corrupt but nobody wants to do things the right way, buying cops, not paying taxes, supporting cartels, bunch of hypocrites. Do you think this is something that can be solved peacefully?


| Maybe it always was hopeless but now it’s just more clear


| The only way you can make reform is a Romanian style mass protest. If the capital is occupied by hundreds of thousands of people demanding reforms (not the typical demand of the removal of the current government). By forcing the government to enforce constitutional and law changes that makes the law system independent from the political you make a politician far more limited in the corruption actions he can do.


| I honestly think a civil war is the only answer.


| what about the cartels? they run the whole country, they literally buy judges and cops, kill snitches and their relatives. the people have no power and it's sad


| >>331345 op here, the thing we need less here right now is a war, our economy can’t handle a war, and even if there were one and the people won. Mexicans are know for fucking each other, another corrupt fuck will take the presidency and the cycle will continue


| Mexico needs nukes, my parents are Mexican citizens by the way


| >>331345 honestly this. Running away from your problems across the border never solved anything.


| >>331081
Just invade Texas (Alamo 2.0). Then continue invading the USA or occupy at least regions/cities like Los Angeles, silicon valley, new York and Washington. Why? Because there sit the cocaine sniffing moneybags who support the drug dealer mafia that destroys your country. Make Mexico great again! The rest of the world won't mind it. Mexican culture and people are much better than those in the USA, which is responsible for your suffering. Fuck the USA!


| >>331757 nice strawman. now are you going to actually contribute to this discussion


| Go to Chiapas and join the Zapatistas.


| If you don't fix your shit USA might "fix" it for you depending on how the next decade plays out.


| >>332386 Lmao U.S. would turn it into New Iraq


| >>332386
Like they "fixed" Vietnam, Cuba, Chile, Iran, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Somalia, etc.?


| >>332455
Sure. Hence the quotation marks.


| >>332269
I doubt you know what a "strawman argument" is.
This was my honest opinion.


| If Mexico had more abortions this never would've happened.


| >>332552 There's no connection between birth rates and corruption. Russia has relatively low birth rates yet has incredibly high corruption. Same could be said about the entirety of the Eastern Bloc.


| >>332458
I'm quite clear, it is babby's first fallacy. You fucks read one wikipedia article and think you are master debaters instead of just masturbators.


| >>332564
Also Japanese government is corrupt as shit.


| Honestly, the only way to save Mexico at this point is some radical shit, revolution 2.0 but probably worse, hopefully with a nice outcome though.


| >>331345 or>>332374

What's necessary isn't just revolution, but a total overhaul of the system of governance. I'm a firm believer that different systems of government are suited to different cultures & people & you can't just force communism or liberal democracy down people's throats, but perhaps anarcho-communism is the thing for Mexico.


| >>333841
Mexico should just let whites or Asians rule them since they can't scrape together enough IQ collectively to function as a real democracy. This is what is happening in Africa.


| Animo g/u/rl la verdad que si estamos bien jodidos en casi todo ambito politico y proximamente en lo economico,tambien dudo que esto se pueda arreglar de manera completamente pacifica pero tampoco creo que tengamos que llegar a una guerrra para provocar un cambio.Si es que el pais se va mas a la mierda por las elecciones (facil un 60% de que pase) esto provocara un movimiento social en busqueda de un cambio, o capaz que tengo mucha esperanza y suene muy idiota eso
We could be worse


| >>333937
Racist Bullshit! In Africa Asia (China) just performs a less destructive way of capitalism. And China became capital due to a "communist" government. Something, which in african countries was successfully inhibited by the west, with a lot of collateral damage including: -
- support of whacky tyrants and religious fundamenalists
- extinction of everything which was suspected for beeing "left" (icluding intellectuals and democracies)
- Civil wars and poverty


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| A revolution is harder in México that it may seem, the USA would never let that happen. They have CIA agents everywhere, specially in the biggest public universities, where new revolutionary ideas are likely to emerge.

The economy doesn't help either, we reached a point where our commodities depend on other nations to a point that we have to beg to be accepted in the TLCAN, even when in earlier years people would manifest to avoid that treaty.


| >>334293
It must be well organized and prepared, and there is no way to do it without the army or drug dealer cartells.
You may get help from antagonizing powers like Russia or China. But the time has not come yet. Be prepared. The US-Empire will fall. But don't expect it makes things better automatically. It's only a chance, which could also horrible fail.

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