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Do people really think taking away gun rights is a good idea
| Yes.
| Yes. And they aren't completely wrong either
| Yes
| >>c9da03
I disagree entirely, think about it the entire reason we have these firearms is to protect our rights from being infringed upon, if the government takes away firearms whos to say they dont take away free speech next. Big Brother is not a good sibling and all these people pushing this anti gun agenda are only hurting themselves in the long run.
| >>313006 I have some questions for you then. Big Brother is already infringing in your privacy, can lock you up for something you said or wrote which he doesn't like. And nobody will ever know. Why aren't you revolting already and protect your freedom and rights?
And what guns do actually need for hunting, sports, self defense, home defense? How many guns does a person or a household need for that?
Cont.
| >>313006 Why do you need semi-automtics and military grade weaponry as private person? And do you think hat the USA is mature enough to handle all these guns?
| >>760c34 once they start taking away ammendments is when a line is clearly drawn, they're doing that with every restriction on gun rights, but you cant start a revolution on your own you'll just become another terrorist.
On your 2nd point though, it doesnt matfer what gun i need, i should be able to have whatever the military has. The 2nd ammenment is not about huntinf, or home defence, it's about being able to go toe to toe with the governmenf should the become tyrannical.
| >>313126 Okay, the 2nd ammendment is a just-in-case, the last straw. From a time when you had one shot before you had to reload which took ages in the context of battles. The age of muskets and flintlocks. Maybe that ammendment needs an update for the current level of weapon technology.
Do you think hat you, US populace, have a chance against the military if the government decides to oppress you? And again, do you think that the USA is mature enough to handle these guns?
| And I mentioned home defense and self defense because those are the first things to come up in favour of no gun control.
| >>313155
Most gun crime is committed by black men. If we ban black men from owning guns most gun crime will be gone. Why are we talking about getting rid of guns when the statistics show that black men are the ones causing most of the problems? The solution is very simple.
| >>760c34 The writers of the Ammendment put "right to bear arms" not "muskets", they knew technology would progress. Again might I add that the 2nd ammendment is for fighting a tyrannical government, and any restriction further hampers that ability to do that. About fighting against the US, our country doesnt have the best track record of winning against insurgencies (Vietnam, Iraq, etc)
| >>760c34 On the maturity point, some are probably not mature enough, but the acts of a few are not the acts of the majority.
| >>19f562 The Czech Republic has similar gun laws. The only difference is they have higher requirements to get a gun. I think a law that goes through all states regarding the requirements would resolve most of the issues.
| >>313202 Thanks. I forgot to mention crime, like anyone else who posted before me and before you. First, criminals don't give a fuck about laws. They do it anyway until they get caught. Second, why only black men? Because of a statistic? Every non-black criminal involved in nun crimes is going to thank you. I also have a nice german saying for you: Glaube nur der Statistik die selbst getürkt hast. Only trust the statistic you falsified yourself.
Cont.
| >>313006
Well, the thing is I don't see the revolutionary mob that wants to overthrow the system by force. But I see a bunch of retarded racists from the country, religious/paranoid lunatics and criminal gangs in the ghettos arround the citys that rather kill each other and common people for their selfish goals than actually change things fundamentally.
So the "liberal" gun laws in the current frame of the US are just a tool of the rich to make fun of their class enemies.
| >>d741b9 There isnt a revolutionary mob, and there most likely will never be one. But isnt it better to have the option should our govt go all regimey and take control of everything. I would much rather have an ar15 than a dingy little basement sten gun should the need arise.
| >>313202 And Im not done yet. You restrict this issue conveniently to nun crime. Let's extend it to gun violence, which also includes gun violence conducted by the police. And let's extend it even further to general gun deaths, which include 5yo children finding mommy's or daddy's "strange and heavy toy" and play with it, pull the trigger, and a tragedy unfolds. But let's just look Art gun crimes commited by black men. Those are the cause of all evil.
| >>313202 I suggest to look into the whole NSU-desaster in germany. Because what you're doing horribly and disgustingly similar to what to what the Verfassungsschutz did, and the police. Gute Nacht.
| Guns should be taken away from Americans until they learn to and teach their kids about gun safety. Guns are not the problem, the psychotic people who easily get a hold of them are
| >>2286c0 Then why are you proposing taking away guns from everyone, your punishing a majority for the actions of the few.
| school shootings in US are mostly done mentally disturbed white kids who manage to buy or snach their dads guns (who probably doesn't need one anyway). Without guns or adequate mental faculties it wouldn't happen
| >>313270
School shootings are a miniscule portion of total gun crime. They are not even worth mentioning yet they are heavily publicised by a media that wants to take away guns.
| >>313292 I wonder what you would feel if you daughter was shot in a school, you gun nuts are ridiculous
| >>313326
Yes we should think with our feels instead of our brains. You must be female to say something that stupid.
| >>313373 wow gun but is sexist as well what a surprise. you will never get a girl if you think like that
| >>313394 he's not wrong but he's still fucking stupid
anyways, i personally think guns aren't the problem here but gun culture, mental health care and gun regulation are all so shitty that it would be best to take guns away. people will complain no matter what you do though
| >>313421
If people don't like gun culture they should leave USA for one of the hundreds of countries that don't allow them. Our politicians still fear us and I'm not giving that away just because you wet your pants at the sight of a rifle.
| >>313430
>leave the USA
me and a good amount of people would if we had the money, time, and lack of obligation (university, family, etc.)
>our politicians still fear us
nice b8
| In america these discussions are just ever so interestingly boring. Like that hamster that runs forever inside the cylinder. Guns to defend the rights of the americans... You are being fucked in the ass by the same government and kept happy for it, because, you know, they let you play with your toys and defend your right to play with them.
Now bend over everyone. The buttplugs have arrived!
| >>313433
You clearly don't give much of a shit about gun control past virtue signalling like the leftist trash you are. If you can't scrape the braincells together to wonder why there is such a united media push to slowly destroy the second amendment then Americans get what they deserve. That they wouldn't fear half the country having a gun under their bed is laughable when they can't even defeat a bunch of goat-fucking retards in the middle east. Get some perspective.
| Take away the bullets. Please, just give everyone fly-swatter tazers instead.
| >>313202
Non black criminals wouldnt like that cause then they wouldn't have a scapegoat. Statistics show that black men are involved in more gun crime cause they are often targeted more by law enforcement, despite latinos who identify as white contributing just as much to gun violence.
| For the record,taking away guns wouldn't be a good idea considering you could always get one illegally.
| I live in Texas USA #1, that last liberal bastion, and graduated from a school that sends graduates to West Point and raffles off guns at fundraisers. The issue is not that guns are available, the issue is that social services are not.
Violence and mental illesses are as old as humanity; guns are a red herring. Just ask the world trade center.
| Yes take them away, people think that as soon as the public doesn’t have access to gun the government will go full dictatorship, which is bullshit. If you want kid to die in schools go for it, let’s just hope your kid isn’t one of the victims in the future
| Its simple just make permits harder to obtain
| depends on place.
at USA can't work ban of ownership guns. At europe is hard to get (legal way) gun because are really difficult psycho-tests here. Ilegal way idk. Black Market probably exist i guess.
| Guns in general its just a joke. They are only relevant if you are a gun collector or enthusiast, they don't offer protection not anymore at least .The only ppl that sould had guns are ppl leaving in nature and they have to protect themselves from animals. Yea you can keep a gun but it will not give you something more than an insurance for yourself and not your actual protection.
| Im neutral about guns. I don't want ban them/legal them. I think that best way is regulation.
| Fucking Americans.
| >>313593
Latinos don't identify as white, they are just counted as white in statistics, usually with middle easterners as well. And no, the reason they are overrepresented in crik statistics is because they commit more crime, not because of some conspiracy theory you believe where everyone ignores white crime and focuses only on black crime. Do you honestly believe that or is this a troll?
| >>313803
You will be suprised how much it raises the bar. The black market will always exist even here in the Netherlands you could get a gun if you really wanted
| Used to be for sensible gun legislation then became radically anti-gun. But arguing about it will make oneself crazy. Decided just to leave the US. Solved my safety problems at least.
| >>313794 They're pretty fucking relevant when someone points one at you dumbass. The only reasons a gun wouldn't afford you a decent means of self defense are being decidedly outgunned or lacking the knowledge or experience to handle a gunl effectively. Even just advertising that you're carrying is an effective defense, in the first place that's why the FBI carry. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kansas_City_massacre
| Also, I cited these statistics in the school shooting thread, but contrary to popular belief, mental illness is not actually a risk factor in violent crime.
About 18% of the US population is considered to be mentally ill, yet they account for only 3-5% of violent crime. The mentally ill are, however, 10x more likely to be victims of violent crime.
That said, it of course varies based upon the illness, but only very few diagnoses actually suggest predisposition to violent crime.
| >>314262 Sources:
http://jech.bmj.com/content/70/3/223
http://www.amhca.org/blogs/joel-miller/2017/10/03/gun-violence-and-mental-illnessmyths-and-evidence-based-facts
https://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/statistics/mental-illness.shtml#part_154788
| >>314263 I feel as though this will all fall on deaf ears with these anti gunners because, despite stating facts they wont listen to them. They dont care they just want to ban guns because they are scary, and dont realise they are going to end up losing one of the few surefire things that protects the people from the govt.
| >>313237
Ideally the government consists of democratically elected representants. And of course such a government needs a monopoly on violence. That's a fundamental characteristic of an "estate of law", like independence of its core institutions.
It's no secret that the USA are a defect democracy, and the lazy weapon law is one of a couple of reasons. The right for private persons to carry weapons just took away power from the estate, handing it over to the rich who can effort...
| >>314455
...paying private weapons carring persons as some kind of private police/army, when it comes to the worst.
The poor meanwhile kill each other distracted by nationalist, racist or religious lies or the false capitalist lie that everyone is on his own (get rich or die trying)
| >>314455 I keep seeing this phrase "esate of law" here, where does the word even come from?
The US government is far from total democracy because it was designed by people (for example, the first six presidents & everyone who had any part in the constitutional convention) who spat on the word "democracy." Your "ideal" government was their nightmare.
| >>314455 The US government was designed explicitly with the idea that if it became too tyrannical or corrupt the people would chase the government out of power as was done to the Brits & as was attempted in the Civil War, or just throw it away like they had Articles of Confederation. It should be obvious that that sort of government will be incompatible with a democracy so powerful it rules out force of arms, & frankly if I had the choice between abolishing the 2nd amendment &...
| ...giving the general populace more access to military firepower, I'd choose to have something more reliable than a vote to fall back.
| There's over 300 million guns in circulation in the US (and growing). Heck, you could 3D print one if you wanted to fire off a few shots. So, it would be impossible to take guns away anyway. The only logical way forward would be to set a higher bar to obtain one. I mean, we all have to pass a test to get a driver's license (cars are also deadly weapons). I don't see why obtaining a gun cant follow similar logic.
| >>314609 Because only 13% of firearms used in violent crime are obtained through a store, & 40% are already obtained illegally. Furthermore, most states already require a license to carry a gun in public (which IS the equivalent of a DL, you don't need a license to buy a car). Furthermore, even in states which don't require such a license many people obtain & maintain them anyway. You already need to pass an FBI bg check to buy a gun from a store anyway.
| >>314609 Even if you needed a license to buy a gun, I can state from experience that many people who wouldn't legally qualify would just get one through a straw sale. As someone who's worked in firearms sales, I'm obviously biased, but I'm not convinced it would create a significant obstacle, except perhaps financially for the poor, who already are effectively banned from buying automatic & high caliber weapons due to exorbitant transfer fees.
| >>314609 To say nothing of the hassles & gaps interjected into any such system by religious excemptions from ID laws & regulations.
| How to reduce about 50% of gun violence in US: nuke Detroit
| Is there some kind of statistic that shows how many crimes were successfully prevented by guns?
| >>315131
This means you do not find it a crime to shoot and kill a burglar,so the next trespasser will be armed himselve.
Its a never ending cycle honestly. When i look at the average home invader here they are non violent and at the first sound/sight of you they escape. But crime in America is way more violent and so is the crime prevention.
There is no answer to what is right or wrobg since every situation is different.
| >>315167
The home owner will always have an advantage. They know the layout and have the element of surprise. Burglers don't usually carry firearms because if they get caught they do more time, not out of any moral standard.
| >>314930
That would do nothing. Detroit is a ghost town mostly. Nuking chicago would make a difference though
| For those of you that want to take guns away so bad, go for it. I'll sit here to observe the repercussions of your vacuous decision.
To you that means 0% gun violence. Or a lowered rate of gun violence at best. We all want that.
To us that means gun violence will remain or potentially increase. There's a large number of incidents where lives are saved through defensive use of a firearm. Let's definitely take away firearms from law abiding citizens. Seems legit.
| I wonder why no one bothers to consider another prequisite to owning a firearm such as 3 weeks or so of practicing and training safe use of firearms and firearm safety.
If any of you were truly rational both sides would agree upon that. I have over 20000 hours of use with an M4. Yet an 18 year old with no experience can buy one. Why not teach that young kid how to use it first and see if he's responsible to do so.
| Ultimately, if you think firearms are the issue, you're beyond hypocritical. If you really cared, you'd do more research and raise your voice to stop thousands of other deaths caused by several other weapons, one of which is barely legal and highly restricted.
How about you be the grown up and try to figure out what they are on your own.
If you can possibly ignore this and continue to focus your narrow mind on firearms, you've said enough.
| >>315340 And you are naive. The lot of you bring guns here as the right of people to defend from oppression and an abusive government, second ammendament bullshit since when the constitution was made. Back then guns were used for fighting by all sides and I can agree with the logic, in half. All were in equal footing. But today? I don't see you using those guns to fight current govt oppression, neither you hoarding battletanks and attack helis. You'd be squashed like roaches.
| >>316313 that's a retarded argument too. Take any riot that's happened recently and demonstrate to me how people get
>squashed
by any military. Do you live in some fantasy world where the governments have complete control over everything everyone does?
| ^^^
| >>314515
The thing is:
I don't see it happen. The democracy in the usa goes on their knees before the big money. There are not any riots.
Under the current circumstances the us weapon law just enables selfish or mad idiots kill each other, since the us society consists of selfish and mad idiots. They rather owerthrow democracy with their weapons instead of protecting it.
| >>315337
Because then the government gets more control over deciding who gets to own one and it is in their best interest to have no one own one.
>>316313
Yeah tell that to the derka derka goat fuckers who have been rather successfully resisting the US military for years.
| >>316378 An idiot doesn't know he/she is one and is the happiest person within that own world, and smiles and cheers about the many wonderful things that are there. Yet, everyone else knows exactly what is going on.
The most important thing is to keep the idiots in the idiot's yard. These idiots have guns and sadly shoot everyone, not only their own kind.
| I all honesty if gun control legislation were to really be enacted it would probably be created in a way to affect minority communities, like disallowing felons to own while at the same time having laws to criminalize activities that minority communities engage in like using marijuana or over policing Black or Latinx communities for instance.
| >>317587
I say marijuana as it historical has been affiliated with minority communities (at least within an American cultural framework) and thus made illegal during the war on drugs.
| >>317587
Are you saying this is a bad thing? What next, race quotas for gun licenses? Blacks and Mexicans have shown time and again that they are the majority of the problem while being a minority of the population.
| >>317603
That has to be the dumbest thing I read Chud, being of lower socioeconomic status will lead to having a larger crime rate within a community and a historically socioeconomically oppressed group such as black people in the who have suffered previously from slavery and segregation ensuring generational wealth potential was nil to none, only really being able to start in the 60s and even then not really as they were burdened by they're forefathers debt, means they are likely
| >>317636
*Their
to be poor due to those types of systemic oppression, that's not even mentioning red-lining, racist housing associations and covenants, as well as predatory loans many black people had to take in order to even get houses.
| >>317637
when it comes to the Mexican community, many are an underclass ,that the bourgeoisie benifit from, due they're citizenship status which means that both they and their children will be poor, and seeing how obtaining citizenship is hard, unless they are born here as gen 2 immigrants, they are likely to stay poor, the hilarious things is that Americans if gave those Mexican citizenship or at least some of the protections that citizenship grants like...
| >>317641
Minimum wage, safety regulations, and other such regulations businesses must adhere to when hiring Americans, then the labor of Mexican immigrants would be of equal value to that of an American or at least wouldn't be so devalued to a point that would rather businesses would rather hire a Mexican than an American.
| >>317603
Taking away guns from blacks and Mexicans would just mean a rise in gun violence from whites
| Most Definitely. But I think one country should keep fine too yet how is this and I don't wanna die so keep them
| >>317655
You must have an IQ of 55
>>317636
>>317637
>>317641
>>317648
Bla bla bla tl;dr it isn't black people's fault they are dumb it is the white man's doing! We need more money for dem programs, cops be racis' n sheet
You really become boring after the third time repeating the same Jewish bullshit.
| The globalists and that old fuck Soros sure does
| Don't blame Black and Jewish people for being a worthless PoS, that is too stupid to see historical racial injustice and labor relations between the Bourgeoisie and the Proletariat.
| >>318886
I would say that they are dumb but rather the education system is more likely to fail them.
| >>318922I
*wouldn't, fucking phone
| >>318922
They fail the educational system, not the other way around. A lot more money is spent trying to teach them than is spent on the less retarded races.
>>318875
Jewish people ARE the bourgeoisie you dolt. How do you not even know this much?
| >>318957
You realize most states in the U.S. use property tax to help fund schools and most black people live less valuable neighborhoods or apartment complexes meaning the schools are funded less, thus teachers are payed less meaning good teacher leave or don't consider working there and school has less money for maintenance or recreation and afterschool actives which are useful in staving off early age gang recruitment.
| >>318957
No the bourgeoisie doesn't mean (((DA JEWS))) it means the capitalist class, anyone can be part of it white or black.
| >>318763
I didnt even say anything in defense of blacks or mexicans. Im just saying that if blacks or mexicans no longer have guns wouldnt we see a rise in crimes from whites who still have their guns? Triggered much snowflake? You must a darkie larping as an alt righter
| >>318988
This also an example of systemic oppression as a change to the tax code in regards to school funding to disperse it equitably would result in less money wasted in places that don't need and giving it to places that do.
| >>318991
Disproportionately represented by the Jews. You commies really can't put two and two together can you?
>>318988
And you realise there are all sorts of extra grants to inner-city schools to try to get their black students to somehow attain the same educational standard as whites andnasians? It has nothing to do with funding and everything to do with race.
>>318995
That line of thinking makes absolutely no sense. I think you need to repeat special ed a couple times.
| >>319012
>Blacks keep blaming their problems on the whites
>Its ok to blame the Jews though
>Inner city high schools have more benefits for minorities
>What makes them inner city high schools in the 1st place is lack of benefits is minorities
Fuck, Im redpilled now
| >>319012
You realize that grants that give large amounts of necessary funds are heavily means-tested which, means that many underfunded school probably won't be able to get it again if something changes like necessary teachers leaving to greener pastures.
While a lot Jews in the U.S. make a lot of money, their forefathers had have a lot of money to get to U.S. in the first place showing they had a lot of inherited wealth and majority of poor Jews existed in the pale of settlement.
| >>319054
.. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pale_of_Settlement
as they couldn't afford a ticket to the U.S. and were disallowed to live anywhere else.
| >>319019
Cant have it both ways. Blaming another rather is either on the table or off the table, make up your mind.
| >>319102
Well if we're gonna be civil about this then I'll stop trolling. There seems to be this idea that blacks failings will always be the fault of the whites or never be the faults of the whites. Why cant we just agree that maybe its not always or never,but rather somewhere in between? Why is it strange to acknowledge that blacks are more like to be discriminated against, especially by police but...
| Also acknowledged that this mean every other black person who IS a criminal is just a Martin Luther King clone
| >>319149
There many problems within the black community that are self caused, but nothing exists in a vacuum, there are lasting affects of the historical demonization of the black community, both in economic strata and how they interact internally, as well as externally with other communities.
That is seen as the root cause of what affects the black community in the U.S., not the nebulous excuse of race.
| >>319165
I agree with you absoulety. There are people from Nigeria that come to the US and dominate in their selected fields of study so Im aware its not an issue of IQ or race but rather just culture. What i want to know is, as white people what exactly can we do to help? It seems like whenever i speak up on these issues I get called a racist or told to stay in my lane. What would you suggest?
| >>319174
Things like what mentioned earlier like changing how school funds are allocated, working with poor black communities to help end gang violence in those communities, decrimnializing activities like drug use, and truly confronting and acknowledging our racist past (mainly for the south in regards to slavery) no matter who uncomfortable that might be, the key thing to remember is that, what I am suggesting takes time.
| >>319210
Im down for that but I have one more question. At what point do we stop making excuses for Blacks? Dont get me wrong, i know the difference between an excuse and an explanation but lets say we take the steps you say we need to take and certain blacks refuse to cooperate in moving forward?
| >>319210
I mean if white people just walk into black communities saying " Were here to fix this fuck up" it's gonna raise some concerns yknow?
| >>319214
There always be people who would want to cooperate so I would say cooperate with them and show that you're an honest actor and point to the results you achieved with those who were early cooperators, its hard to deny hard proof of your actions.
| >>319231
Also what race are you? Not that it matters but I want to know which experience I was interacting with. If youre black I apologize for the racist joke from earlier.
| >>319359
Im white but I grew up in a black neighborhood so I feel a certain kinship with minorities.it just sucks that so many of them get bad attention
| >>319364
I understand that, and the most recent election didn't help some of the more strained communities either.
| >>319377
Trump isnt really that bad of a dude tbh. Its his followers that are causing the problems in lieu of make america great again.
| >>319392 MAGA was a good meme, way too good in fact. Gotta commend Reagan for creating something that still gets "American pride" boiling in people 30 years after its use
| >>319351
I am human race, like all of you. Using the term "race" to distinguish humans is scientifically wrong.
| >>319632
Even most "modern" right-wingers understood this. That's why they disguise their racism behind scientifically correct terms like "cultures" (which still is a biologism) or more precisely "ethnicity".
| Culture is a what? Biologism?
| >>319633
I dont like the idea of cultures being better than others either but we cant lie to ourselves. If you throw a white into the hood and a black kid into the suburbs, the black kid will most likely come out better
| >>319690
They're talking more about how current neo-reactionaries attempt couch their racism by taking non-racist terms and having racist framing or in short dog-whistling.
| >>319722
Citation Needed have several episodes on this and other racial issues:
https://m.soundcloud.com/citationsneeded/ep-21-quantifying-negative-media-portrayals-of-people-of-color
https://m.soundcloud.com/citationsneeded/episode-26-the-welfare-dog
https://m.soundcloud.com/citationsneeded/episode-27-how-the-media-mainstreamed-racist-pseudoscience
https://m.soundcloud.com/citationsneeded/episode-39-from-cradle-to-courtroom-how-the-media-stacks-the-deck-against-defendants
| >>319174
Please learn about averages. Seriously. The smart ones from Nigeria don't mean the average Nigerian is intelligent. That is selection bias. It works both ways, but blacks are in average much lower IQ than most other races.
| >>319722
Pointing out biological differences between human subspecies is racist. Science is racist. Reality is racist.
| >>Bourgeoisie is disproportionately Jewish.
This is exactly the reason German antisemitism became synonymous with National Socialism.
| >>Racism & Education
A couple decades ago in Kansas City, there was a multi-millionaire who took an inner city high school & promised to pay the way through college of anyone who maintained a B average & remained drug free throughout school, & even then he got almost no takers to speak of. Apathy toward education is propagated in the culture of many poor peoples & areas, throwing money at it & offering free college fail to make a dent in that.
| >>Culture v Biology
This is a very extreme example, but take the Ik people of Uganda.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ik_people
Because survival & self-sufficiency are the focus of their young lives & their community structure, they produce extraordinary survivalists who know everything about how to live in the African wilderness. However, they seldom give a damn about book learning.
| Though to a far lesser extent, the inner city cultures of minorities are often adapted to navigating life amidst issues like gang violence, epidemics of drug use, &, because education has been so scarce, living without it.
In other places education is pushed upon children, sometimes to a degree which staggers those foreign to the culture in question (eg, Japan, Seoul, parts of China) whilst in others in takes a back seat, due to either necessity or tradition. Lower education...
| ...results in lower scores on many IQ tests.
For a graphic representation of this, see https://iq-research.info/en/average-iq-by-country
Thus culture, through no biological mechanisms save starvation, disease & the like, does in fact have a dramatic effect upon the capability of different peoples to succeed in life. QED
| >>319817
Of course culture and education is important. Intelligence after all needs to be shaped and nurtured and trained. We mostly think of personal intelligence but group/social intelligence is also very important and with an impact on the individual too. It can serve as both a stigma or a drive for the individual. So despite the fact of an individual being intelligent and having all the means to education, if society is dumb and uneducated and has a bias towards something...
| ... then most of the individuals will be biased too. This is what culture is. And in time both intelligence and culture influence each other, intelligence lowers or increases the average of the group and also the culture suppressing or amplifying the cultivation of intelligence.
The guns issue is a classic example of this. One can not be a sweet cucumber in a vinegar jar. Not for long anyways.
| >>319788
The difference only is melanin and marrow, with marrow that is due to most recent common decency not race.
| >>319837
Lol no dude. There are many other differences. Earwax, muscle groups, testosrone levels, skull volume. It is a liberal fairy tale that all these physical differences appeared but brains are all the same. Fuck your pseudoscience.
| >>320270
>doesn't believe in brain differences but believes in other physical differences
How does that KoolAid taste these days?
| Maybe just encouraging schools to teach gun safety would be for the best.
| >>320319
I don't believe any of the shit you talked about as testosterone varies from person to person I know that for a fact, muscle groups sounds like bullshit as that too varies on an individual basis, the exception of earwax which is frankly irrelevant to the conversation of race and intelligence.
I'd rather drink Kool aid than have brain worms
| Honestly, I'm glad we don't have them here(with very, very rare exceptions). Nearly nobody gets killed, people feel safe and shit. The only shooting in recent memory was by a cop, and not for good reasons unfortunately.
But I don't know if gun regulation would be very good in america. Obviously, outlawing them entirely wouldn't work, maybe just more thorough screening of buyers would be a good idea.
| >>320556 where do you live? Europe?
And gun regulations def need to get stricter, it's fairly easy to get a gun license in most states. And it's not like you really NEED a gun. Second ammendment is not an argument since America is not some developing African country where overthrowing the government is as easy as a trip to the supermarket. The only reason you'd want a rifle is for hunting or for target shooting in which case you can go to a shooting range or rent one for hunting..
| For self defence a baton, pepper spray or a taser are mostly good enough, no real need for a firearm. Home defence - fine, I can see a point in that, a burglar ain't gonna come unprepared but you don't need a big gun for that, a semi auto pistol can work wonders if you can operate it.
| >>320567
In my country the burglar risks already being catched if he prepares himself with firearms since it's illegal for civil private persons to own and buy them. Why is this so hard to understand?
Weapons belong to the military and police - and even here they always should be the very last option. Wild west times are over you fucking cowboy idiots! Neither native americans nor the british will retake your shithole country.
| >>320564 I live in Europe. In the small country with the bankers and the cheap cigarettes.
My point is that regulation needs to happen very slowly or in a limited way or people will lose their shit. Even then, it doesn't seem realistic with the power lobbyists have there. Also I feel like hunters(depends on the type) should be able to own, hunting rifles though, not assault rifles or anything.
| Also, as far as I know, you can own a gun for going to a shooting range here, you must not have it loaded though, unless you're at the range, are not allowed to take it outside of storage at home unless you go to the range, and must store it at the back of your car while you drive(ammo and gun seperated).
| >>320403
You are clearly very proud of your ignorance. Why do any reading when the media will tell you all the important parts? All races are equally good at everything, you go girl!
| >>320350 This.
>>320556 The reason we Americans are so much more violent than, say, Icelanders is not because we have more guns, as illustrated by the fact that they have more guns & less violent crime per capita than most of Europe. A violent culture like ours will be violent regardless of what sort of weapons we have.
I for one do not believe that restricting firearms will change the culture in the way advocates, if anything more people will have more disregard for arms laws.
| Also, someone above cited that 40% of firearms used in violent crime in the US were obtained illegally, but from what I can tell that figure is actually over 60%.
http://www.politifact.com/new-york/statements/2018/mar/12/john-faso/do-illegal-gun-owners-commit-most-gun-crime-rep-fa/
| >>320927
Back when I was growing up drivers ed and learning how to fix cars was a must have in american schools. But now all the useful shit has been taken out. We had a saying "Get em while their young" but now it seems like its normal to teach people essential skills when theyre well into their mid 20s
| >>320897
I reject the concept of *social phantasms (*spooks) have any bearing on the individual.
*https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Stirner
| Yes, cowboy era has ended years ago
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