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World War 3 is comming!?
| Many people had high expectations after the end of the soviet union which proclaimed to but failed in solving the problems of capitalism. In the early 90s it seemed a new era of freedom, peace and progression was comming. But people forget about the real nature of the capitalist system. And about the consequences of the methods and whacky allies that the west used to beat the SU: religious fundamentalists and nationalists movements.
| While starting to decrease social standards already end of 90so and massively offshoring industrial production into dictatorships in 2001 western societies also start to decrease civil rights and increase mass surveillance, due to "the war on terror" which returned on them like a boomerang, because the origin of modern islamist terrorism was the western "fight against communism".
| High hopes were also set into the information technological revolution: it was promised and believed it will make live easier, bring people together. But again: people forgot about the true nature of the capitalist system. Capitalist just achieved to restrict any positive potential of the information technological revolution by lobbying for "mental property" and on the other side against customers and employers privacy. A bunch of software and platforms gained monopoly-alike status
| ...and were mostly used for mass surveillance by secret services and spreading disinformation and propaganda lies either by neoliberal, nationalist, religious fundamentalist or racist governments or by fake opposition of the same kind.
| Now we have a civil war in Syria, where two nuclear major powers: the USA as the self proclaimed country of freedom led by a chauvinist douchebag and on the other side russia, which is "liberated" from communism and supposed to be part of "the free world" too, led by a nationalist and religious reactionist. While both countries suffer from an increasing social-economic gap, they prefer to fight in a region that is signed by cold war and post cold war interventions.
| Are you waiting for WW3 no worries when it will happen you most likely
Be dead.
| To illustrate how the potential of information technology is wasted in the current system just think about automation of the current warfare (also "dont be evil" google technology is involved) and last but not least: missile strike announcements via fucking Twitter!
| I hope so. We humans need a big war from time to time to awaken our spirits
| >>240929
Is there any petition or political programme to allow the deportation of people like you into actual war zones? Because I want to support it.
| This whole drama is moronic, Trump said he was gonna pull out of Syria a week or two ago, right after that there's that evul gas attack that killed like what, 10 people? When Arabs gas people they send cyanide scud missiles, ever heard of the Iran Iraq war? There is no strategic value or tactical advantage from such a small gas attack, especially since Assad was winning..
| Actually at the ww1 people were sending their soldier to war with smiles in their faces.The thought of victory and use of new technologies for war it seem so intriguing.It was so odd so i investigated further and it was true for a majority of the population (thats sad).
| another thing is I think humans deep down actually want wars and conflicts, it's in our animal spirit
| >>241195 you're the only one over here advocating war and shit, fuck off with that pseudoscience human nature bs
| >>240702V.Putin is religious and nationalistic? Really? He allows for too much corruption even though corrupt officials are scared of him and is probably manipulating political conjuncture to stay in power till kingdom come, but yours seem to be there just for the balance of adjectives on both sides. Got to give him a credit for he keeps his cool after being blamed for a hit that is way more likely to be MI6 handiwork as a pretext to shit on Russia (with no evidence whatsoever).
| Didn't plan for that to be red, sorry. Also it is unlikely for the WW3 to take place unless either side finds a way to disable the other country's nukes.
| >>fd0dca
>sorry to inform you
But you are talking bullshit.
Stop saying "deep down humans"
and when did you psychology?
| >>241527
From the moment humans could kill they have done so. And they will keep doing it until there are none left.
| >>241822 I agree. Of the past 3400 years, the world has had peace for a total of 268 years. Humans thrive on war, and they're not going to stop anytime soon.
| That humans love war is no news at all. We now strongly teach that we should love one another, be peaceful and caring for the next person, be sensitive, helpful, etc. I completely agree with this. But it is an indication that we MUST constantly teach and be reminded that this is the correct approach, otherwise we default to emnity, grudges, mine vs. yours, us and them... By intelligence we teach ourselves to be good, by nature we dont seem to be inclined to it.
| >>241842 yes but humans inherently prefer conflict over peace. They'd rather defend one team instead of make peace with another. The most basic example is sports teams. Even taking this board as an example, the "burg/angry burg" war or "traps are gay/not gay" arguement. Everybody chooses sides no matter how much they wish they didn't, and unfortunately they are usually willing to resort to conflict to defend their side.
| burgs are winning by the way. We must stop this madness!
| I'm not one for a Hobbes philosophical point of view and anyone saying x is iherently or natirally y is formulating this under the idea that it's an absolute without any true logical explanation. Anthropologically agressive tribes have strived to a higher material development. The issue comes that we have far more social systems to that of a tribe.
Constructs like cities are beyond war conflict in purpose and the locations for war are very specific.
| Not evwry person is involved in the conflict nor will everyone be a part of the production. The idea of a social conteact that Hobbes speaks of can't be considered exclusive to the leviathan itself and it's not that odd that every one of us sets out to follow a plan due to the other person. The idea of war of "everybody against everyone" seems ridiculous when we have plenty of methods to prevent conflicts, how war has been left out to a small part of the state away from daily life.
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| It's 2018 and something "new" (?) happens: While humanity is truly and globally divided between capitalists and proletariat, nationalists, religious fundamentalists and racists lies divides the proletariat. But is this really a new thing? No! It already happned twice: In two murderous world wars millions of of proletarians killed each other instead standing together against global capital.
>History repeats itself always twice: the first time is a tragedy, the second time a farce.