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"We Can’t Stop the Illegal Caravan, We Have to Set Them Free in the US"
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>Border Patrol agent and union spokesperson Brandon Judd explained to Pete Hegseth on Fox & Friends that a Mexican agency is helping these people come into the U.S. The group should be prosecuted in the United States but no one does it.
>Sessions, where are you?
>They openly do this because they know the ‘catch and release’ program continues today. It allows them to enter and stay in the U.S. illegally.
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>Once they arrive at the border, they will be set up for deportation, Judd explains, but they will never see those proceedings. After border patrol sends them to ICE, ICE processes them and releases them with a ‘notice to appear’ about two years from now.
>The illegal aliens then go hide in the shadows again until an asylum deal comes up. They never show up for their deportation proceedings.
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>The Fox host asked Judd why they just can’t be held at the border. Judd described what happens and how that isn’t possible. He said, once these people enter the country, all they have to do is put one foot over the border and they’re here. If they ask for asylum or say they have a ‘credible fear’, they have to be taken into the country.
>Judd asked, How many have to die before we do something.
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>The fact is we have been allowing this for years. This isn’t the first caravan of illegals. It’s one of many and it goes on all the time.
http://www.independentsentinel.com/we-cant-stop-the-1200-illegals-we-have-to-set-them-free-in-the-us/
| Jews did this.
| Why do people give a fuck about immigrants?
| >>212728 Because feeding them will be done with tax money and social welfare money which are being paied by the current workforce while they are doing it secure a stable and healthy future for themselves.
| Doing it to secure*
| Pathetic! Gleefully decadent.
| >>212829
You already pay for useless wars, immigrants seem a better investment since they do the jobs no sunflower wants to do.
| >>3e5a66 Yeah, undocumented immigrants can TOTALLY just get welfare in spite of lack of citizenship documentation...
There are so many other things we could be focusing on, but sure, go off on frightened families. American xenophobia is insanely hypocritical.
| >>212829
The contribution of the current workforce to the tax income is nothing compared to what tax-avoiding capitalists contribute with a fingertip. Tax money is mostly money of a rich minority, not from the common masses. Taxes are a redistribution tool to take money from the rich and provide welfare to the common people - including immigrants. The problem is that politics are controlled by the rich and they don't want redistribution, which is independent from immigration.
| >>214335
Correction:
>The problem is that politics are controlled by the rich and they don't want redistribution, which is independent from immigration.
There actually is a relation between rich peoples interest and immigration:
- People with less rights at job market
- divide and conquer strategy to split the not-capitalist masses based on religious, nationalisic and racist lies (=opium)
And as you can see how things turn out it works: Instead of class-struggle we just have shit.
| >>213593
They buy stolen identities to collect welfare in that person's name. Look it up.
>>213426
No, this is a persistent bit of propaganda. If you knew how markets worked instead of jerking off to Gulag porn you would know that immigrants are used to suppress wages of the working class. All jobs get done for the right price, employers don't want to pay that price though so they push for more immigration to flood the labour market. Immigrants hurt the poor.
| >>214587
There actually exists welfare in the USA? Isn't it considered to be an evil communist/socialist thing? What about the american dream, everyone can become a millionaire starting as dishwasher?
What you wrote about immigrants beeing used to supress wages is right, but I don't understand why the only solution you see is stop immigration. What about increasing minimum wages, strengthen trade unions and employer councils?
| >>215892 The US minimum wage is big though. Like, it's genuinely big enough for you to easily be able to live off calmly.
| >>215892
No, increasing minimum wage is such a joke. As I have seen with my own eyes in the recent months it just causes prices and rent to go up. No one wins. You can't cover a problem with makeup and expect it to go away.
| >>216502
The problem being an oversupply of low-skill labour. Immigration is good for the capitalist fat-cats and bad for the poor.
| >>216796
>The problem being an oversupply of low-skill labour.
This problem is a general capitalism problem. Globalization and Immigration just accelerate the unavoidable by enabling capitalists to exploit workers in sectors which can't be offshored into opression-oases. Blaming Immigrants for it only makes things worse and will buy you only a couple of decades. But yeah, this issue is basically the real big thing about immigration and sadly being ingnored in public discussion.
| >>216502
>No, increasing minimum wage is such a joke. As I have seen with my own eyes in the recent months it just causes prices and rent to go up. No one wins.
If it is such a joke, why political represants of the rich (neocons and neolibs) invest so much effort in anti-minimum-wage campaigns?
Costs increase anyways, regardless of increasing minimum wages. The upper income workers have better opportunities to organize themslvs and should do more class struggle to gain more.
| >>216502
>You can't cover a problem with makeup and expect it to go away.
Well, this puts the whole discussion onto a new level. What do you suggest? Global revolution? It's not so easy to start this, and even more difficult to make sure it turns out good.
Anti-Immigration and Protectionism is also nothing but putting a wet (and poisonous) washrag on a cancerous ulcer called capitalism. It will not solve the general underlying issue between capital and labour.
| American anti-immigration policies are generally 1) ineffective and 2) particularly cruel and inhumane. The fact is we're never going to live in a communist paradise, so we may as well gradually strive toward that.
>>216796 Immigration doesn't just suck up jobs that Americans could fill. Fact is that immigrants - migrant workers in particular - possess different skills than American workers in general, and also tolerate shitty work conditions for low wages.
| >Fact is that immigrants - migrant workers in particular - possess different skills than American workers
No, most do not. Do you have any sources to back this ridiculous claim up? Most immigrants in skilled fields these days are just being used to reduce wages to natives. For example, Indians don't have IT skills we don't have. They just work for less.
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| >Most have heard by now of an imminent invasion of 1200 illegal aliens about to hit our border. Most of the marching illegals come from Honduras. They are being led by an open borders group while BuzzFeed chronicles their journey. What people don’t realize is we have to let them into the country and then set them free inside the country.
>This has been going on for years.