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Stoneman Douglas High School SHOOTING
| As of now, there are 2 dead victims and more than 15 injured
| Apparently the shooter is 18yo Nicolas Cruz. His instagram cruz_Nikolas got suspended last time I checked
| Suspect is in custody
| 16 dead now :(
| The sheriff has just confirmed that 17 people are dead.
The suspect was identified as 19-year-old Nikolaus Cruz
| Twelve victims were killed in the building, two just outside, one in the street and two died in hospital.
| This shit is so fucked up, freaks me out that I could go to school tomorrow and get shot by a classmate
| Damn. It's hard to believe that I'm also 19. I could never imagine myself killing anything, and yet here in the US, we have shooters as young as 19 murdering innocents. What the fuck?
| People go through stuff. But some are alone and don't get help when they most need it. This is a completely avoidable outcome
| This must've happened in America, right?
| >America
What a shithole.
| Glad that the shooter is not moslem. We are innocent and always get shit for this.
| >be american
>get shot
| >>147980 that's rather grim, People are dead but hey at least the shooter isn't Muslim, then again Islam's killed enough as is
| >>148017
I'm hoping that was a joke, I'm not TRIGGERED right now, I just want to say something.
Have you ever heard of the crusades? Or how European conquerors would force other people to follow Christianity or DIE?
This is why all religion is bad, if god existed tragedies like this shooting never would happen.
| >>147980 Apparently it was ISIS inspired. Go figure.
>>148147 Somebody doesn't want to retake the Holy Land. Damned heathen.
>>148152 Pretty much.
>>147975 The USA is the third largest and third most populated country in the world. We've got a few bad apples, just like everyone else, but we also complain loudly about them.
Nothing to see here folks, move along.
| >>148158
The thing is that in the USA maniacs, psychotics and douchebags have access to weapons and even can become president. Think about McCarthy, Raggean, George W. Bush, Trump. The USA are almost the biggest bigot shithole country in the world (in concurrence to north korea) . And it's not antiamericanism, its a fact. Canada does a lot better. Even Mexico could surpass the US, as they overcome their drug Mafia problem.
| I for one think teachers should be allowed to carry. Let them get proper training in how to deal with an active shooter and have them have proper training on where to keep the gun in a proper safe place with the police. I can bet you a lot less shootings like this would happen.
>inb4 just ban all guns.
| >>148147 I don't want to make this thread a religion stuff or anything, but if u think that all religion is bad then you should feel bad. Because I've lived my whole life as an Christian IN a Muslim dominant country. And they treat me equally like other, they respect my belief. Sure, there are some that doesn't act that way, but that's just like 1 out of 25 people. Don't make a little black stain in a white paper ruin your view about the paper as a whole.
| >>147884
Pretty much, yeah.
>>148207
Kek. And which country are you from?
Canada is a financial mess that can't sustain its own policies and yet keeps making them at the expense of increasing taxes to the point where people are leaving for elsewhere just so they can keep more of what they earn.
Mexico still has a "drug mafia" (cartels) problem. It never left.
You're more ignorant than a white guy living out in the boonies in the US, and that's really saying something.
| >>148158
I take any reports of something being terrorist-inspired with a heavy grain of salt nowadays- seems like everyone's just jumping on that magic word to increase views.
Remove Pulse Nightclub? The guy had no terrorist ties at all, he just happened to be Muslim, lol. He did all the phone calls and stereotypical "terrorist chanting" just to mask his actual reasons for the mass murder.
| >>148525 Surely it's all just a big coincidence. You know, being a Moslem and screaming like a terrorist while slaughtering innocents.
Surely.
| >>148522
They took the fugg drumpf!!!! meme my friend. There's no helping them until they learn the hard way.
| >>148522
Better a financial mess with friendly people than to fear for your bare live, and the lives of the ones you love in a society dominated by assholes and psychopaths.
| >>148158
It seems he was more alt-right inspired. According to the „war on terror“ logic USA must kick right-wingers out of the country or be invaded by the NATO.
| Wait what? The dude is an actual Muslim? I thought that was a meme
| >>148680
Here's a reality check, genius- Canada isn't any more safe than the US as far as "fear[ing] for your bare live, and the lives of the ones you love in a society dominated by assholes and psychopaths."
Have you even visited Canada? Much less lived in it? Have you seen the rot in the major cities? No? Then go fuck yourself. You don't know anything about what it's like to live on this side of the planet.
| >>148529
It sure was- the guy himself was a homosexual who had a serious falling out with people at the nightclub and, reportedly, struggled with trying to be both gay and Muslim. So you can argue that the religion certainly had a part in his issues, but it wasn't a "terrorist attack" anymore than V-Tech was a terrorist attack orchestrated by the South Koreans.
The guy just hated himself and people like him, and hated that he couldn't get laid/have a gay relationship.
| So what else was he going to do?
| >>148690 The majority of NATO exists thanks to the US. Are you merely pretending to be this retarded? And as far as I'm concerned, there's no relation to the political views. Remember the tranny that mostly missed killimg 2 guys at his work with a shotgun pointblank (LOL)?
| >>149308
The majority of islamists exists thanks to the US.
And you're wrong. Since every Muslim is automatically classified as a potential islamist, then if a explizit nazi runs amok it is for sure related to political views. At least it is a result of a failed politic in a failed state with a failed shithole society. Truth Hurts huh?
| >>149388 A person who follows Islam is a Muslim/Moslem. Nothing you said makes any actual sense. The only truth that hurts is how painfully inept you must be.
| >>149388
You haven't revealed what shithole country *you're* from, anon.
What's wrong? Too afraid that we'll air out your homeland's own dirty laundry?
Inb4 Iranian.
| >>149541
And which instance decides who follows Islam properly? Also there is a difference between muslims and islamists. Most muslims are just formerly ones, because their governments said so, not because they "follow Islam". The US used islamists to fight the soviet Union and potential allies of them in the "third world" during cold war. The US adopted this strategy that was used by germany and uk against each other in the great war. Islamism is a western export product.
| >>149555
And I give a fuck about my formerly "homeland", like I give a fuck on the whole concept of "homeland", as it is just an invention of the bourgeois class to let proletarians fight each other.
I am Proletarian, and I want more wage, more holidays and fucking peace.
| >>149657
So in other words, you're a useless slave who bitches about everything that you have that is ironically a direct result of the things you rage about. I'm willing to bet you live in the US or some other first world country, which allows you to even have a computer or similar device that allows you to access the internet to complain to begin with. Anyone else that is actually "suffering" like you claim is too busy making ends meet to spend time here.
| Proletarians today don't have the luxury of complaining- they have work to do. Anyone claiming to be one is in reality both a hypocrite and an uneducated fool. You don't deserve the products you're using to bitch online that were made by actual protelarians who will never experience even of a fraction of the life you do, you parasite.
| "More wage, more holidays, more peace" and yet you earn more than enough to waste time online, more holidays, and yet you clearly have plenty of free time, more peace, and yet you feel comfortable shitposting about the very governments you claim are shitholes that aren't fit to live in.
You're like those false communists and college-aged "rebels" who post pictures of Che Guevara on their walls, without realizing that they're the exact kind of people Che Guevara would have killed.
| The fact that you couldn't even answer a question of "what country are you from" without replying with a bullshit excuse only proves that not only are you ashamed of where you live, but that I am right. You are the worst kind of hypocrite- one that bitches and whines and does nothing to elevate yourself. You are a >slave.
| And are destined to >die like one.
| >>149692
I'm not even communist, lol. Just pointing out what I see as a common misuse of politics.
| And besides, people who bitch all the time but then do nothing about it are terrible people regardless of their political leanings. There are few things more annoying.
| Discord was a mistake
| Haha yes
| >>149707
Ah, I understand. You're on of those guys who believes in twisted capitalist ideology which promises a positive progress of society based on individual competition and private property.
What you described as proletarians is a caricature like from old "socialist" propaganda and regarding the >die as a slave
part, more a wishful thinking of yours than reality.
Looking on what's going on in the world shows that you have no idea what's basically going on.
| >>149933 What's happening in a few countries does not apply to others. You haven't proven anything with what you've said. The Soviet experiment where they tried to take away competition and in doing so only enforced what you would call bourgeoisie even further by focusing it down on a specific group, the Communist Party. This was already clarified in Marx and Engels' Communist manifesto in fact. I'll paraphrase what was said there.
| To be able to lead the people into the Communist ideal you will need educated people to lead them into such ideals and we the Communists can show that truth. Something along those lines. This is where the entire logic of such an experiment of utopia fails. That's what a utopia is at the end of the day, something improbable in a real life sense.
| >>149958
Well, the thing is that proletariats education is intentionally restricted when it comes to politics, economy and history. If I wasn't an active trade-unionist, I probably would be a right winged fool, following racists or religious fundamentalists, who „explain“ who to blame why my wallet becomes smaller even thought I work as much as usual. As an unionist you have two enemies: right winged liars and your probably even „liberal“ employers.
| >>150455
Also thanks to the union I (and some of my colleagues) were able to study. And yes, I see what you mean by „false communist students“ in >>149679. But there is also a thing you probably don't know about the angle-saxon education system, where 2/3 of the bachelor absolvents are not going to become well payed scientists, engineers or managers. They work in middle and low payed bureau jobs or in the service sector (as labour is offshored to lower countries w lower standards).
| People are idiots and do stupid things. All these useless discussions about banning guns or what political views he had are useless. If a person wants to kill people he or she will do it.
| >>150474
>People are idiots and do stupid things.
You can speak for yourself, but not for others
>All these useless discussions about banning guns or what political views he had are useless.
That's YOUR opinion, but a lot of people thankfully think different.
>If a person wants to kill people he or she will do it.
Well, I want to see how one manages to kill dozens of people without semi of full automatic guns. A more restrictive weapon law increases the effort and reduces dmg.
| Americans and their stupid obsession with guns. I never got that
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