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Why kill jews?
| It's part of some convoluted white race scapegoat scam to blame everything bad in the world on jewish people.
| >>144966
Exactly, black do the same, jews do the same, women do the same, men de the same. Blaming other for personal choices/situation is easier than taming the bull with our own hands
| Why not?
| Jews have been around some of the greatest mistakes around. Hollywood is compromised of Jews. The USSR was created by a majority of Jews. Generally (((they))) have been around most high end related events as the leading force that also tries to fuck everyone else over.
| Because quran said so
| >>145101
And here you come to bring justice to the world.
There is an old proverb. "Where there is smoke, there is a fire."
| >>145066 Those are some very nice digits my friend, it's almost like they prove what you are saying is correct.
| >>145066
>Jews have been around some of the greatest mistakes around.
You could say the same for (whm) white heterosexual men.
>Hollywood is compromised of Jews.
Also by whm.
>The USSR was created by a majority of Jews.
That's bullshit. True is that a lot of jewish ppl were revolutionary's.
>Generally jews have been around most [...] events as the leading force
Again more whm.
Did you ever heard about diaspora, antijudaism and the three ways of jewish emancipation?
| >>146163
Diaspora:
distribution of jews all over the world due to expulsion.
Antijudaism:
In christianized Europe jews were oppressed. They weren't allowed to do handcraft. A lot of jews were multilingual and even able to read and write. So they became traders and bankers, which was pretty dangerous in antijudaish, christian feudal societies, because they were blamed for everything that went wrong. Evangelists accused jews, instead Romans, for murdering Jesus...
| ...to make Christianity the official Roman estate religion.
Still some jews managed to become wealthy by trading and banking without getting killed by the mob. These jews were involved in colonialism and later in bourgeois revolutions. But also poor jews saw a way to become treated as equal people this way. And it failed. Antijudaism was to deep and long practiced and turned to antisemitism with the downfall of christian feudalism and rise of capitalism.
| In eastern Europe societies were like stuck in time and almost all jews were really really poor people (like the most other people arround them). They saw what's still happening in more advanced bourgeois Europe to jews, that even if they became super rich they are in danger because of their origin.
So the socialist revolution was like a honeypot to jewish ppl in russia, since it theoretically aimed a higher level of human equality. But also in the UDSSR antisemitism won...
| ...and after ww2 Zionism was the last hope for most jews.
So now in short the three ways of jewish emancipation:
1. Revolution e.g. bourgeois or socialist to get rid of antijudaism
2. Assimilation e.g. by becoming rich and respected as trader, banker or artist
3. Emmigration e.g. continuing the diaspora by going to less antijewish countries or finally founding a jewish country (which Zionism provides in near east)
| I personally don't like Zionism and the way Israel develops confirms me. I prefer assimilation and revolution. After all I'm just jewish by the definition of nazis, racists and zionists. In fact I give a fuck about religion, nationality and race.
| >>146230 most of the Jews are actually against Zionism as well and hate Israel semi fascist politics
| Becuase they stel mony
| >>146277
Would like to know more about this.
I thought the only ones radically opposing the jewish state was the 'ultra' orthodox jews, and they are being labeled extrimists.
| >>145078
Also, I seriously hope you're baiting since there is literally nowhere in quran a verse telling you to kill jews or non-believer in general.
>inb4 verse taken out of context
| >>146615 well there are multiple occasions in the Quran which speak of how one should not befriend unbelivers and should make war to them until they repent and become believers.
| >>146644
Jews and Christians are classified as „book followers“ in the Quran. It's explicit mentioned to treat the well and even protect them from harm. The Quaran says nothing about killing jews. The Origin of islamist antisemitism has its roots in palestine and is much older than the Islam. But it was assimilated by muslims in this region and became popular with the foundation of the modern Israel estate.
Now in the western countries muslims become the new jews to right wingers.
| >>146663 except that I live in a muslim county and most people want to do exactly kill all jews here. Some people even idolize hitler for doing the deed
| I know that at some places one would get stoned to say it, but Quaran says a lot of contradictionary stuff. In one sentence it says killing people is a crime in genreral, in the next sentence it says killing is ok. In practice muslims are killing each other the most. A lot Muslims fetishize manifestations of this book, while it tells them not to fetishize.
I don't like the Quran, as I dont like religion in general, but this >>145078 is just false shit from a nazist troll.
| Quran (4:101) - "And when you (Muslims) travel in the land, there is no sin on you if you shorten your Salat (prayer) if you fear that the disbelievers may attack you, verily, the disbelievers are ever unto you open enemies." Mere disbelief makes one an "open" enemy of Muslims.
| Quran (9:14) - "Fight against them so that Allah will punish them by your hands and disgrace them and give you victory over them and heal the breasts of a believing people." Humiliating and hurting non-believers not only has the blessing of Allah, but it is ordered as a means of carrying out his punishment and even "heals" the hearts of Muslims.
| [Quran 5:51] O you who believe, do not take Jews and Christians as allies; these are allies of one another. Those among you who ally themselves with these belong with them. God does not guide the transgressors.
| >>146694 even so, I wouldn't expect this from a religion of "peace". Fight those who anger you? Doesn't sound logical, nor morally correct, and definitely shouldn't be in a religion that advocates for peace supposedly.
| I miss the part where it says „kill all jews“. Pls cite it Mr. taliban.
| >>146739
Well, Jesus was also not peaceful when he raged at the Pharisees.
Practically there is no „Religion of peace“ Thats just theologists mumbo-jumbo.
| 1 gurl took the bait (even mentioned that she took it) and countless others still followed it. Goddamnit, gurls
| ...So We decreed for the tribe of Israel that if someone kills another person - unless it is in retaliation for someone else or for causing corruption in the earth - it is as if he had murdered all mankind. And if anyone gives life to another person, it is as if he had given life to all mankind. Our Messengers came to them with Clear Signs but even after that many of them committed outrages in the earth. (Qur'an 5: 32)
| >>146847 there's no mention on that, but if the "conditions" are meet, killing non moslem/non believer (including jews) are a fair game. And nowadays, those "conditions" are interpreted/bent by each and everyone to push the agenda and justify their deed.
| I love how this anti-semitic thread immediately turned into an anti-islam thread.
Good job, (((g/u/rls))).
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| >>146615
>>146670
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>>146952
Wow, this site is so broken it literally gave us a same ID (2 of them were me, the others were not).
| >>146952
Its fun too see how rightwingers fight about if jews or Moslems are the cause of all bad stuff in the world. I already discussed with a right winger that believed muslims are used by jews for world domination. Its just unbelievable how seriously stupid some ppl are.
| >>146851
Yeah these condition thing is a problem. But to be honest, it's not a Islam/Quran specific problem. I mean look at the US. Their constitution says a lot about liberty and individual rights including the right to live without harm. And still there are „conditions“ that allowed slavery, still allows death penalty to their own people. It obviously also exludes non us-citizens from this rights as there is the torture camp Guantanamo and a lot of dirty warfare they do.
| >>147209
Same is for most other „good“ countries. Principial they all are for peace, democracy and human rights, but when it comes to global economics and geopolitics, there seem to be „conditions“ that allow to give a fuck about these things. The Quran could also be written by western military think tanks, just replacing believers and non believers with „us, the good“ and „terrorists“, which can be bended as it fits to the current agenda.
| >>146851
Also, there is a big difference between allow sth. and command sth. The qur'an intentionally aims hegemony but not explicit by extinction of „unbelievers“. Also it explicit forbids to kill muslims, but still muslims kill each other over all. So instead reducing problems in the world to one book/religion (which is massively divided) take a look on deeper historical and economic and geopolitical reasons that are the true background of todays conflicts.
| Most Islam/Qur'an critics these days is just a cheap excuse for right wingers to act no better than islamists.
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