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Nazis are bad
| Ok.
| No one fucking cares
| They are,but sadly the word has lost its value quite abit
| so what else is new.
| They are fine young men
| Water is wet
| onky thing I hate more than Nazis is other leftists. *proceeds to publish 10 newspapers*
| People in Germany called each other Fascists even before Hitler came to power. The word hasn't lost any meaning. That's how it always was.
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| Ok
| >>139239
The term "Fascism" has it's origin in Italy. It was refering to a sign of power from high government officials in the roman empire: The "fascis", an axe with its shaft attached to a bundle of sticks.
In Italy the ex-communist Mussolini betrayed worker movement as ally of the bourgeois class to make italy a new empire in reference to the roman one.
This is facism by definition. Hitler just added racism and antisemitism, which optionally goes pretty well along with facism.
| >>139274
Of course not. I'm a European Communist not an American liberal.
And always remember mah negro fellow, liberals get the bullet too. kekekekekekeke edgy kids gone wild
| >>139280 ofcourse and the first use of antifacism was in the 1922 in Italy.
It's still true that KPD (Communists in Germany) and the SPD (Social Democrats in Germany) called each other Fascists on frequent occasions, even before Hitler came to power tho.
And even at that time the proper use of fascism was for the conservative ethno nationalists, which then united under Hitler.
| >>139283 100% not true in Europe atleast.
Most people even call native Americans still Indians. Doesn't have anything to do with racism, just culture.
| >Nazis are bad
Any socialism leads to degradation and death, even if it's NATIONAL-socialism.
| >>139312 The real question is why Nazis and Fascists are clumped together as a singularity? Similarly to clamping Yugoslavia with the rest of the world of the Iron Curtain.
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| No shit, Sherlock. They are awful, like all other socialists.
| >>139286
What counts in your bubble is not true for Europe. „Nigger“ (and language specific variants) are viewed as a inappropriate term by a majority in Europe and it's usually used by nazis.
| >>139285
Can you give me a source for your claim that socialists and communists called each other fascists in germany?
And what is this bullshit about Hitler uniting „conservative ethno nationalists“? Sounds like history forgery to me.
| >>140924 I is widely known that Hitler was supported by German conservatives who wanted to bask in his popularity.
| >>140916 Nigger is used as a racist term in countries that have owned colonies. They have some semblance of black presence and feel guilt towards these groups. This doesn't mean it happens all over Europe. I don't know if you've realized it but there's a Europe outside of Germany, France, Italy, the UK, Denmark and Belgium.
| >>141396 nigger is a racist term in any language. It's considered racist in Estonian as well even though we didn't have any colonies.
| >>140924 op here
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_fascism
Also just get a history book or something. It's a known fact. Socdems also claimed that Communists are just the red version of the fascists.
Hitler united those groups because most official ethno nationalist and conservative groups were banned.
Seriously dude, read a book.
| >>140916
100% disagree. Just because you say nigger doesn't mean u are a Nazi. Nigger can be used in a comedically way or in a way to describe certain criminal black people.
It's just that there is no guilt like >>141396 said. There is just the language you learn.
| And when you learn from American TV that those people are called nigger you call them nigger too. Not all black people, but those who sell drugs.
And ofc it can be inappropriate- doesn't mean there is a grain of fascist ideology behind it.
| >>141412 In the Balkans it's considered the polite way to say it and black man or using one of the racist gypsy words is the way to go. Estonia is desperately trying to westernize itself alongside the rest of the Baltic states anyhow. And I somehow doubt these ideas cover the general Estonian populus.
>>141428 what also said is important. Languages aren't that universal.
| I believe being a nazi should be illegal. Punishable by removal of dick/vagina. It would make people really be afraid of being a nazi openly
| >>141427
>Also just get a history book or something. It's a known fact. Socdems also claimed that Communists are just the red version of the fascists.
Well, you made it sound like social Democrats and communists called themselves proudly „fascist“, concluding they are similar to the nazists. But that's wrong. The point is that socdems and commies in germany were heavily antagonizing each other, and they called each other fascist as an stupid insult.
| >>141427
>Hitler united those groups because most official ethno nationalist and conservative groups were banned.
Seriously dude, read a book.
Hitler united groups that were banned in a group that was not banned? Sounds pretty stupid.
And what the fuck are „ethno nationalists“? The important thing is, that Hitler „united“ anti-semitic groups with the old militarists and noblitity and fooled the working class by using the popular label „socialism“, without a deeper meaning.
| The only thing Hitler did that was not evil was the mustache
| >>141479
>what also said is important. Languages aren't that universal.
They are. Some expressions just rely extremely on cultural/historical context and on technologic development. But after all every language can be used to express anything. You can also take over expressions and even grammar rules from „foreign“ languages to expand yours. A language is nothing but a dialect, artificially hold in geopolitical borders by army and navy.
| >>141479
In the Balkans it's considered the polite way to say it and black man
>and what does „the black man“ in the balkan think about it?
or using one of the racist gypsy words is the way to go.
And what do „gypsys“ think about it?
Shouldn't we call people like they want to be called?
I mean in german there is also a racist term for people on the balkan: batschak. The term itself is not racist, but the context in how it is used. It is meant as undesired slavic subhuman.
| >>142322
So as an example „batschak“ often is combined with „dirty“: Drecks Batsckake. The same is for „nigger“. It's associated with slavery („my“ nigger) and racist theories (the nigger in general, the typical nigger) ignoring the fact that there are lot black people having less in common which each other than with some white ppl and asians, just reducing diffrent cultures and individuals to the colour of their skin.
| >>142342 not really. Communism is about giving power to the workers while Nazism is about giving power to a small elite and their racist policies
| >>142378 Then why did the commies give privilege to the Communist party over the actual workers? Don't get me started on factory directors either. You're full of shit.
| >>142385 implementing such massive changes often fails massively. Sadly. That's why even I like communism I don't think it's possible in current human condition. People are just too greedy and power hungry.
| >>142300 wow Dude, you are legit retarded. I said 'called each other fascist on frequent occasions'.
>>142305
And now you want to sound intelligent? Fuckin mentality retarded people lmao. Dude. R E A D A B O O K, you fuckin retard doesn't even know what an ethno-nationalist is lmfao.
You fucking retard, they banned a bunch of ethno nationalist groups. Which is the reason why Hitler created the SA and then all those people joined.Doesn't have anything to do with Socialism retard
| >>142315
>Languages are universal
>Languages heavily rely on cultural/historical/technological context
pick one retard
>>142385
Look at the C.N.T. in Spain. They tried. They succeeded. They got killed.
Look at the USSR, they tried, but through the state and the party. They didn't succeed. They survived.
| >>142342
>communism and nazism are almost same things
Yeah, that's what capitalists and bourgeois hypocrits say to downplay their vicinity to and the stupidity of nazism while demonizing the communist idea in one expression.
In fact Nazims is a spawn of capitalist/bourgeois society and its rotten social darwinist ideals.
While communism is a suggestion to solve the struggle and conflicts that communists see within in the current economic system as a root of most human conflicts.
| >>142342
In short:
Nazism is capitalism on the peak of its inherent crisis.
Communism is overcoming capitalism by socializing the big industrial, financial and intelectual property.
| >>143380 >>143388 Gommienism exists because of capitalism too. If we're using Marx' theory that should be apparent. Commies are the biggest retards on this planet, I swear to god.
| >>142438
>pick one retard
Well I don't see the contradiction between this things. You for sure also use a lot of words and know their meaning without knowing their historical/cultural background, because you accepted a common agreement which can be universal. So if you deal with a „foreign“ culture/languages you will find on the first view only the differences. But if you understand or just accept it, you'll see the similiarities which means there are universalities.
| >>143396
>exists because of capitalism too.
As an idea, yes
>Commies are the biggest retards on this planet, I swear to god.
Well that's your opinion. But then please don't complain that a lot of people have another opinion and will call and treat you as a retard. Because this is what you probably are.
Also there may be no god, so swear to something that has more substance. Guy that's swearing to his invisible friend is calling others retards. What a joke.
| >>143408 Not just as an idea. Its functions in the 20th century were based off of the outdated industrialized capitalism of ye olden times.
>deconstructing a figure of speech with religion somehow
You fedora tipping faggot. I will call you a retard, especially when you behave like a goon.
| >>143386
In theory their not, in practice they are, though the core difference is communism kills their own people and fascism kills others
| First humanity kills millions without care, then it whines. Phases or something. Peace is preparing for another war.
| >>143409
>You fedora tipping faggot. I will call you a retard, especially when you behave like a goon.
Well, then probably its ok with you beeing called a „braindead nazi pigfart-face“. Or do you prefer „bourgeois hypocrite piece of dogshit“?
| Nazis are HOT
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| >>144750 Not an argument. I actually gave structure to what I wrote. But I guess a braindead commie can't think and just throws around buzzwords.
| >>145062
>I actually gave structure to what I wrote.
Youre free to believe that, but don't expect me to do so.
>But I guess a braindead commie can't think and just throws around buzzwords.
Guess again. In fact the most braindead people are conservative, deeply religious or racists.
And communist buzzwords still have more substance than the usual esoteric shit that most pro-capitalists throw arround.
| >>145087 Braindead people are braindead because they stick to a specific dogma. The Communistic one is a perfect example. Sticking to a particular political belief very easily forces you down the path of ideology instead of logic. In the case for you that would mean that you'd rather think of the Communistic utopia instead of trying to actually solve problems and do constructive thinking. Your lack of how modern capitalistic societies work is also very apparent. Commies are shit.
| >>145105 if you used logic you would recognise that the capitalist system is inherently exploitative and places money before individual
| >>145112 That's only if you analyze it through a Marxist POV. That's also why this analytical way of thinking just doesn't work out. It's too narrow. The existence of wage itself is considered exploitation by commie logic. The problem is that consumerism was created last century which is completely out of this rationale.
Or you're going to argue how hierarchies only exist in capitalist style societies and then I'll laugh at you and mock you again and again. Stop dreaming anon!
| >>145105
>Braindead people are braindead because they stick to a specific dogma.
The neoliberal one is a perfect example. Sticking to a particular political belief very easily forces you down the path of ideology instead of logic. In the case for you that would mean that you'd rather think of the neoliberal utopia instead of trying to actually solve problems and do constructive thinking. Your lack of how modern capitalistic societies work is also very apparent. Neolibs are shit.
| >>145119
>Or you're going to argue how hierarchies only exist in capitalist style societies and then I'll laugh at you and mock you again and again. Stop dreaming anon!
It's not the question whether hierarchy's exist or not.
It's a question if the economic system increases everyones individual opportunity of participation or just for a few. Does it provide a peace- and respectful together and still a evolving society?
| >>145333
Just go out of your comfy bubble and realize that world becomes shittier from day to day with an insane acceleration.
Realize that capitalism is going to lead humanity directly into a self made global catastrophe again. I mean there are so many important challanges to manmind and all people do is to gear up armory, running after religious, racists and nationalists demagogues or ignore circumstances, going to Disneyland, just to suddenly wake up in a apocalyptic nightmare.
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