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World's confidence in US leadership under Trump at new low, poll finds
| The economy is improving though. It's more of a divide between democrats and republicans really.
| Gosh, a left wing UK rag upset that the US isnt giving more gimmedats to the rest of the world. If thats the CASE, THE US might as well withdraw from NATO and the UN.
| >The Guardian
Always a source of good unbiased opinion for sure
| >>118271
I'm pretty sure that the world would have been a better place without most „gimmedats“ from the US. The only thing that the US offered were weapons, war and capitalistic, artificial restriction of knowledge, culture and mental freedom by licencing and commerciazing even the immaterial aspects of life.
| >>118353
Youre implying that there is or should be a unbiased source of information. What is or should it be called? Ministry of truth?
| >>118357
Is that a controversial opinion, to not want to consume propaganda (and low-quality at that)?
| in other news, water is wet.
| >>118429
Yes it is, because propaganda belongs to politic like marketing to the market. So the idea to avoid consuming propaganda means either avoid any kind of information, or that there has to be somewhere someone who knows and tells "the truth", which usually is typical for propaganda.
In order to this, complaining about "The Guardian" beeing propaganda, is propaganda itself.
| >>119070
That is the most autistic thing i've ever read. I actually can't even begin to fathom the mental gymnastics one would have to go through to come up with all that. No, complaining about the Guardian being trite shit isn't propaganda anymore than complaining about Fox News being hot garbage is propaganda. It's just voicing an opinion that for all you know could be completely valid. It's not wrong at all to want an unbiased source of news, that should be what everyone wants.
| It doesn't inherently mean someone wants to avoid all information or some kind of biased propaganda machine, and while certainly that can be the case, it's not impossible to think that maybe someone actually does want complete and total unbiased truth, even if it goes against their beliefs and long-held opinions. Believe it or not, actual non-biased truth an exist, it just takes a lot of hard work that not many are willing to put in.
| And personally, I think it's totally fair to call this propaganda, or at least something formed from propaganda. That the US could have a record low polling in leadership confidence under Trump when he hasn't even done anything besides say a lot of stupid bullshit while there are still recent presidencies like Bush's, who committed one of the biggest international blunders of the century by toppling a government on the basis of complete misinformation, on the mind is frankly absurd
| So the World is more and more telling the us to mind its own and leave the fuck alone for noone has time and nerve for a dickhead country?
Wow. News material.
| >>119169
Pathologizing my post won't help you to get out of the inconsistence being inherent to your statements about propaganda.
> It's just voicing an opinion
Yeah, grats! Since your opinion is not "objective" and wants to influence other peoples opinions it is propaganda per definition.
> It's not wrong at all to want an unbiased source of news
Yes it is, because what you want is nothing but a "ministry of thruth".
| Stop arguing you fools and start loving each other
now time for discipline
TOUGH LOVE PUNCH
| >>119651
By your own logic, your opinion that my opinion isn't objective is purely subjective, and thus you can't actually rule out my previous statements as merely being my own subjective opinions, as your own subjectivity means they could very well be objective. You also make the mistake of assuming I want to influence anyone else's opinion, frankly I don't care all that much, I just want to know how someone could espouse something I hold to be false as if true so blatantly.
| Anyways, it's clear you're going down the route of pedantry and arguing along the lines of denotative meaning instead of the widely known connotative meaning of the word propaganda, so I think i'll end that there but I must say
>Yes it is, because what you want is nothing but a "ministry of truth".
False. I've never seen anything more blatantly wrong in my life. No that is not what I want and frankly for you to act as if you know full well what I want is absurd.
| It is not wrong to want an unbiased news source whatsoever, to want otherwise is what is in fact wrong. While yes, the variances in what people hold to be true means they can sometimes want this, perhaps without realizing it, and makes it extremely difficult to actually make such a news source- to want one is perfectly understandable and just. A world where actual truths without any bias are reported on instead of the "truths" of ideologues would frankly be a better one than now.
| >FAKE NEWS
| Trump should marry Kim Jong-un
| >>119863
Don't worry about it so much bruv, the guy is probably a "communist" who knows that without propaganda and mind control techniques his special little dystopia would never be possible.
| Who cares about some abstract "world opinion"? Trump will be in his office until 2020 at least, so we'll see how America and entire world will be doing by that time. For now Trump is doing mostly good.
| >>119906
And another example for a victim to bourgeois/capitalist/nazi propaganda. You're the brainwashed one, spreading aground third wave of red scare mainstream bullshit.
| >>119906
I know, it's just frustrating seeing this kind of pseudointellectual garbage becoming so widespread over the years. I mean, just look at >>120159
>victim to bourgeois/capitalist/nazi propaganda.
I doubt anon here knows what bourgeois, capitalism, and national socialism even actually are.
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