A right-wing man killed another right-wing man at a right-wing event at a right-wing college in a right-wing city with a right-wing mayor in a right-wing state
| The Republicans have to blame the Democrats because the only other group they could blame would be themselves. Deep down, they know the truth, but they can't face it because that would mean reassessing their whole belief system.
| literally obsessed
| 3d printed gun update: got through three mags last evening and it cycled brilliantly
op update: still posting these threads
who's the real winner
| His bullet casings engraved with anti-fascist messages. Keep on coping but it won't change the fact that the guy was left-wing.
| >>1071759
iconic ironic, no introspective (describing yourself) you reply to me and you're the ones who can't shut the fuck up about it
| >>1071762
False flag operations are a specialty of right-wingers.
Other than leftists right wingers also more often deny their stupid ideology in public. They only speak open in a conspirative private atmosphere as long they aren't in the position to make people aplaude to their stupidity by force.
A right-winger assassinated from time to time is nothing against the mass executions leftists have to expect under right-wingers absoulute reign, which their ideology about at its core.
| does anyone know about groypers? I read that the shooter is part of that. They have targeted kirk in the past and ciao bella is their themesong somehow...
| >>1071874
Made up BS sorry gurl. They’re just the nick Fuentes fan club and not terribly relevant nor powerful
| Yeah I’m part of the shootercord
| He was a lefty what do you mean the shooter was right wing? His family was, but his family and friends all said he went extreme left. He has 2 gay furry lovers.
| my headcannon is he started asking if there were orders to stand down to idf while hamas was rampaging so zionists could politically exploit the massacres like they did the hollocaust and bibi was so fucking scared of it he ordered him deadened
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichstag_fire
| Liberal leftists don't understand:
His actual motives don't matter. What matters is who gains the interpretation supremacy. And here the fascist propaganda has an advantage, since they have a significant amount of capitalists and the government on their side.
This one >>1071925 is a pretty good reference. To the far-right leadership, charlie is nothing but a peasant they could sacrifice: A young disoriented man, escaping from a rapidly changing reality into a fascist dream world.
| >>1071971
Some people form their opinions by thinking for themselves, not listening to the dumb masses or the "interpretation supremacy". What do YOU think?
| >>1071991
I think you are naive. Who cares if "some people" have somewhere "their own opinions"? As long they don't have any power (politically, economically) they're doomed to circlejerk around with no influence at all. In the end it all boils down to the question of ownership:
Who owns the newspapers, the radio stations, the tv channels, the "social media" platforms, etc.?
You can buy a newspaper or post on twitter. A billionaire can buy the publisher or platform.
| Left-san-kun, you have to choose...
A) a drug addicted nigger who robbed pregnant women at gunpoint and resisted arrest
OR
B) a white guy who debated people for a living
Choose carefully...
| >>1072094
Right-san-kun, you have to choose...
A) Life your shitty pointless life based on lies and stupid ideology as a boot licker to the ruling class - always haunted by the fear someone else, probably more willingly boot licking, will take everything from you.
B) Seize the production means. Overthrow what deserves being called "the system" (no stupid conspiracy theories) and go in solidarity with those who seek liberty for everyone, not only for a few, based on lazy lies.
| >>1072183 the ruling class? My brother in christ (maybe Allah we dont judge here) the left is the side of oligarchs. Tech company's and mass media are owned by the left which is why I find it so funny when the TV hosts and politicians say we need better propaganda because the right has all of it. Like bruv you have the schools tv and the majority of the internet.
And the system I dont really get which part you mean but unironically its a good base that has gotten worse over time
| Because of shitty fucking payed off corupt politicians. Our legislative branch is a brothel selling America to the highest bidders.
Oh and also forgot to mention blackrock is in bed with 90% of politicians left and right and palantir was a darpa program to get rid of our rights but was shot down for obvious reasons so they said fuck it we are a private business now and got a contract to do the exact same thing :)
| No one ever said that racists were smart.....
| >>1072183
I can choose B and be right wing you ritardo ass niggard, besides you didn't even answer my original post because you're scared of it
Also who the fuck is talking about obeying the system when whole governments are dedicated to keeping 4channy groyper memeposters down and oppressed, who the fook are you kidding...
Yeah let's talk about ESG scores
>>1072201
You can't even answer any of their points so you resort to this lmao.
| This left right bullshit is annoying but come on, this narrative that the young college guy rebelling against his maga family with his trans lover and plotting an assassination against a prominent and very public right wing voice, is somehow a right wing assassin trained by jews to kill their peon and blame it on the left is a crazy level of cope...
Its crazy fake moon landing flat earth lizard rulers, level of conspiracy theories. No wonder people are becoming more right wing
| Is its really that far-fetched that some left wing idiot just took their Grandpa's rifle and did what they felt they had to do?
We all know the right and their very obvious wrongs an flaws, its about time people wake up to the fact that the left has some seriously inored elephants in their room.
15 years ago, if I was told that the left would come to these lvls of antisemitism and conspiracies, I would laugh my ass off but here we are.
| >>1072201
Somehow the right is hyper competent to infallibly take over the media and people and the system and assasinate whoever they want but at the same time they aren't smart enough to do basic fore thinking because "no one said racists are smart"
The lvls of cope...
This is the sams shit that I would hear people say about conspiracies to make everyone into communists in the early 2000s, I guess humanity never learns shit.
| >>1072220 what surprises me the most is that somehow jews are taking the most fault again...
I don't like Israel and they definitely are poorly handling gaza, please free Palestine (fuck hamas tho) but like have you seem some of the bullshit people said, Candace Owens who considers Charlie her friend, somehow tried to make this into a jew conspiracy and how Isreal secretly constrols the United States when they can't even control their own territory.
| >>1072221
"anti-zionism is not anti-semitism" was a line used by stalin, and in the same breath he had anyone with the slightest jewish connotations murdered: including the trotskyite-zinovievite show trial that sought to eliminate "judeo-bolshevism" unironically
look it up, it's kind of hilarious
anyway you're talking to chinese bots my dude the truth is not what they're here for
| >>1072224
I don't care much for your takes besides holding them in contempt but your attitude is kinda shit ngl.
I still wonder, i daydream about the day this bullshit artificially-assisted left/right divide paradigm gets overcome, and elements on either "left" and "right" side come together and compromise à là Mangione, that is a day the billionaire faglords will know fear again
It's like that dumbass divide back then, socialism vs nationalism, was it?
The 2 complete each other...
| Man, that day left and right come together to build something new...
We must overcome our times.
| >>1072246 well said, I grew up my whole life as a democrat, just how I was raised. But despite how much my own party has wished for my death or to see me poor (or something I dont even know I lost the plot on what we want now) but seeing how terribly we have been acting in the past year has made me so terribly sad. Where have the days gone when we could just say "agree to disagree?"
| All republicans have is screaming and crazy, you take away that and it's just empty. THAT is the reason we don't get along. This is the average republican btw: https://i.imgur.com/haPVagl.mp4
| >>1072314
You don't need to fix it, you need to eliminate it. These people want to kill many of us and put the rest into camps, they are the enemy within and every breath they take is a threat against the republic and her people.
The best solution is prevention, which requires a healthy society with strong safety nets and social programs to identify these individuals early and get them the help they need.
| However, there's a very realistic chance we're stuck in a future where the solution comes in other forms, from .22, 9mm, .308 all the way up to 120mm HE and beyond...... That's what the brainwashed far-right wants to do to us, so we have no choice but to defend our republic with the same means. Unless the demoocrats wins big and actually fixes the justice system and defunds the police this is the future we're looking at.
| >>1072312
shut up bot
>>1072313
you're criticising a perceived inability to hold intelligent debate yet this is how you respond, with zero display of intelligent anything in what you say, no comment required here
>>1072315 >>1072316
and you live in crazy world, that's the kind of rhetoric that takes a gun to an open debate... as we've seen...
| Regardless of left or right, there is always crazy, delusional and psychotic people...
Thats what I've learned looking at the past 2 decades
| >>1072357
please, as a right winger, and in the name of left wingers probably too, please stay an enlightened centrist and out of politics
we are all miserable here
| >>1072391
being anti-corruption is based and far right nazis should feel fear. only idiots compile these issues into a left-right spectrum. let's call a spade a spadea d call far righters out for what they actually are:
lying, brainwashed terrorists
| only the corrupt and useful idiots would ever oppose anti-corruption and anti-nazi sentiments lol
| To be a punk means you get raped in prison. It means identifying as a loser. Call yourself a rebel but never a punk.
| >>1072423 I'll honest, you people have been very bad at actually being anti corruption and anti nazi.
So much so that now antifa is being deemed terrorists anda lot of people are cheering for it.
Violent protests, political assassination attempts, cancel culture, turns out that when you blindly brand half of your country as fascists and openly exclaims that you should kill fascists, they start to be anti-antifascist.
| The righ wants certain people dead but they don't hide it under the moralism of being the good guys and going "we call ourselves the anti bad guys, bad guys must die and if you criticize us, you are the bad guys"
This behavior makes the left seem unreasonable to the average person.
| and because of the past decade of very strong political division and the ample influence of the left in popular media, the counter culture became to be right wing, which why we are getting news of increase in right wing ideas within the youth.
| The problem isn't being anti fascist, its that people use antifascism sentiment to justify bad behavior and when criticized they brand others as fascists...
There were a lot of people radicalized by the George Floyd protests since a lot of them became riots and lootfests and people who were against those protests due to that mess were called racists.
The left failed to filter out their evil and said that they aren't an organization, just an idea, so they cant be evil.
| Now that poplar pendulum is swinging right, shit is hitting the fan as centrists are fed up with the excuses and right is taking them in thats how trump got elected and his assasination attempt s and kirks withthe left celebrating it, just made so now left wing people are leaving the Left...
Thigs are getting heated and right is gaining power, soon the right will get overconfident and start acting like the left has been acting lately with purity tests and excuses of their faults.
| >Utah
Literal soda brains
| >>1072532
True because it appears strong and dominant to be sincere I think, at least on some things.
| >>1072458
Yeah "the left" literally "tortured" the right with "political corectness" and now the pendulum swings back and it would be basically the same to actual torture all lefties (and non-white, non-binary, heteronormative, etc.) in actual deathcamps. It's all the same. The Francos Spain was the legitimate answer to leftist republicans, the GDR probably as worse as the so called "3rd reich", castros cuba worse than Batistas dicatorship and in chile pinochet saved the day.
| >>1072457
>There were a lot of people radicalized by the George Floyd protests since a lot of them became riots and lootfests and people who were against those protests due to that mess were called racists.
How you know how much of this actually happened and how much is exaggerated neo-fascist propaganda?
| >>1072837 when you smell a pajeet.
>>1072838 leftoid again spamming buzz word because actually engaging is haaard. Yes, do you know that the left hides the bad things they do and doesn't acknowledge it on any of their media sources? (right does this too)... those riots had alot of looting, not an insane amount, but a decently high amount. And too make things worse despite the fact the left says "IT DIDNT HAPPEN!" they also had the fbi reported it as right-wing extremist activity
| "We didnt do it because it never happened. And even if it did happen it was you guys anyways!"
| >>1072842
Well, since masculinity (like femininity) is an society ideal it only can be ACTED.
This is why in different cultures and/or eras entirely different (even contradicting) properties/qualities are linked to this concepts.
Animals for example don't know masculinity or femininity. For some species it is normal that females are bigger than males and they eventually eat them after mating... While this is the state of nature, I never heard someone say this is very "feminine"...
| >>1072854 different animal species have different standards for masculinity or feminity...
You are just projecting human values on them and claiming it debunks human values since it clearly isn't "natural", like how dumbfucks will claim homosexuality isn't natural because animals only have sex for reproduction when they can do it for various reasons, like humans, but those reasons are unique to each species.
I like how both the left and right are delusional to those topics...
| If you need examples.
Aggressiveness and strength are feminine values for hyenas as they live in matriarchal dominance.
For songbirds, having bright color and flamboyant dancing and singing is a masculine value.
Nature isn't meant to be used as a standard for humans, because nature doesn't care about standards, it cares about what doesn't and doesn't work with each species and how it can cover ecological niches, everything that doesn't fit in goes extinct or dominates the others
| And humans are a part of nature too, we are animals, with our own values of masculinity and feminity just like any other species out there.
We don't fit in an ecological niche, but we aren't near extinct, we are dominating others, we are a dominant species basically consuming everything relentlessly, forcing other species to adapt or go extinct, that is until we destroy ourselves something bigger does it.
Thats our current relationship with nature.
| >homosexuality is unnatural.
yes.
>it cares about what doesn't and doesn't work with each species
how does homosexual reproduction work in humans? i'll wait.
| >>1072867 Animals don't have sex JUST for reproduction, it can work as display of dominance (birds), release stress (apes and birds), byproduct of being hormonal (birds again), exchange currency (apes and birds and dolphins) and even as sort greetings (specifically bonobos).
There is no, homosexual reproduction, you need to separate reproduction from sex, one is an action, the other is a possible consequence, sex can can be used for various functions in nature, varies with species
| Reproduction is a product of heterosexual sex, but sex by itself, can have all sorts of functions, each animal species has their own way of doing it, they are all natural, because there isn't a set standard.
Don't even get me started on asexually reproduction, because the sheer fact that sex is not necessary for reproduction should already set the idea of what is isn't natural is bs, if it exists in nature then it is natural.
| Anyways, I just wanted to flex by biology degree, y'all should get back to fighting over who is more in the wrong the left or right...
>>7d8606 is my previous ID
| >>1072876
there is no purpose for sex beyond reproduction. anything else is a cope. yes animals do it for various reasons. but the reason why dicks and cunts developed was not so one species could dominate the other. you may need to pull up a biology textbook, you have a fundamentally flawed understanding of nature andevolution. your biology degree is useless if you can't even understand why animals evolved to have reproductive systems.
| >>1072881 how can it be cope if of literally just happens?
Like I said, you need to separate sex from reproduction they are fundamentally different things in science, its just that one is a consequence of the other under right conditions but even that is optional.
If sex is just for reproduction then why is there reproduction without it?
Sex exist because of reproduction, but it was there before sex, its just just a means to end
| Sex is an evolutionary tool, like all evolutionary tools, it can adapt and develop multiple functions and specializations.
Its like saying using your teeth to attack isn't natural because they are used for munching food...
Homosexual sex is natural, for some species, what you should be talking about is if its natural for humans, get a degree in history and anthropology, then you can start actually debating that scientifically.
I personally don't care about what people do tho.
| it takes a spermatozoid and an ovule to reproduce for a human being. you can't smash 2 spermies together and hope it works out.
if you take a normal woman and a normal man, if they have sex they can reproduce. you can't do that with 2 women.
the natural method is a man and a woman.
| >>1072886 bro, you are aware that when I mention reproduction without sex, Im talking about other animal species and even non animals like plants, fungus, bacteria and cells...
| >>1072888
but when people say homosexuality isn't natural they're talking about societal issues, ergo not fungi but humans.
it does sounds like a compound issue with both sides having good arguments. perhaps it was too vague a statement to work with.
thanks, man.
| >>1072889 ah yes, because when people make scandals that chemicals in the water is "turning the frogs gay" or make studies on how homosexuality doesn't exist in nature and how those are all somehow fault of antropic action (its not, most of the time) there isn't any intention behind trying to claim it doesn't somehow apply to humans..
| Kirk got shot people argue good or bad now people fucking using biological terms to call each other faggots. We get you two back to the conversation at hand please.
| Don't get me wrong, Im not even trying to make hit here or argue facts, its just that people really try their best to make up reasons to believe something even when there is no clear answer.
This is why its important to separate sex from reproduction, especially in the debate of if its natural to do it beyond reproduction, even within humans the answer isn't clear either.
| >>1072891 what else is there to talk tho? He is dead and people are having all sorts of reactions.
Also I'm pretty sure this type of conversation is something kirk would approve and even engage in if he were to be here...
| i'm tired...
i want objectivity... passive, no emotion at all...
maybe >>1072891's scientific method can pull us back towards those waters.
| well >>ee425c, i did sense some sort of stoic anti-adhominem off you, dk what to call it but it was refreshing while it lasted.
| >>1072899 if we want that we need a government with a spine that will kill and murder big pharma and big businesses. WHO is a band of mafia members who peddle lies for profit
This thread is closed.
| with a right-wing governor and right-wing gun laws because he wasn't right-wing enough.