Marxism
| the average "marxist" supports meritocracy but yiiks out when a shoemaker (disgusting, uneducated, socially conservative) is in their general presence
explain to them that the belarussian soviet is and was ran almost exclusively by working class people and they'll start spouting slurs
| It is for people who didn’t consider that being richer than others feels good
| Nazis pretending to speak for Marxists will never be believable.
| Marxists will never be believable.
| The "psychology" behind marxism is called "rational and critical thinking" that seeks to resolve logical contradictions.
In his works marx pointed out the many different illogical contradictions within the capitalist system. What it makes unique is his usage of hegelian philosophy.
The more interesting question would be, what is the theoretical equivalent in psychology to anti-marxist/capitalist ideology. Maybe "double bind" theory?
| what's the psychology behind that rational and critical thinking associated with Marxism?
| Marxists calling themselves rational amd critical thinkers when they can't even understand that people don't wanna equal distribution of wealth or class consciousness, they just want to have affordable good lives regardless of name of the name of the system, but Marxists will still insist on needing to have all this talks and points and convoluted systemic reform, when all they need to rise to power is be a populist who actually delivers their promises of making thinks affordable.
| It's as simple a making communism without naming it communism, but prioritizing fulfilling people's needs over trying the same radiacal tactics and theories that everyone rolls their eyes when hearing about.
Marx didn't write solutions for affordable and effective health care, housing crisis, how expensive it is to raise kids in modern times to the point that both parents need to work and don't have time or money to provide.
| And no, people don't need free healthcare everywhere, they need to have it be affordable and the option of public clinics and hospitals, which is something some countries already do.
| >make affordable
Limited resources.
And no economic system could change such inherent aspects of reality itself.
It requires a misunderstanding of basic thermodynamics to believe otherwise.
| >>1070039
Didn't marx rather worship meritocracy? >"everyone according to his needs and skills"
They didn't criticized capitalism for being meritocratic at all and identified mechanics that rather lead to a matthew effect.
| >>1070259 marxists don't worship meritocracy at all, that's just the pop conception of marxism that you see reflected in the media
| most people who identify with Marxism don't even understand it
| most people who attack Marxism don't even understand it
| >those who identify with it don't get it
>those who hate it don't get it
both
| >I don't get Marxism so one does
Narrator: But people did understand Marxism, but the people who did understand just didn't hang out with this dumb fig and his ilk.
| >there are people that do understand Marxism
Stating that most people doesn't get it doesn't exclude there being people that do get it
| quantc*m phys*x
| >>1069838 How is it rational? People not being allowed to form contracts with each other because you decide the contract isn't fair is retarded and authoritarian, not logical.
| >regulating the market is not logical
that also happens with capitalism
| the strongest refutal of Marxism will most likely use Hegelian philosophy, because Marxism misunderstands Hegelian philosophy
| >>1070763 Can you not deconstruct the words you use? Market is just a bunch of people agreeing on things, this is the most basic freedom, if you don't accept that you're authoritarian.
| >market = agreement between people
>le most basic freedom
not restricting this freedom is just anarchy, and regulating this freedom comes in a wide variety of different options and those can be implemented in a variety of different political systems, where it being authoritarian or not mostly depends on the political system
| >>1070775 i like anarchy i think the CNT/FAI set a really good precedent as a form of government despite their loss in the civil war
| anarchy hasn't proven particularly practical
| >supposedly
| "Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary." -Karl Marx
| tl;dr eat the rich if they step out of bounds
| I would surrender my ammunition if you know what I mean
| >workers should not be disarmed
workers should not be given arms and ammunition to begin with
This thread is closed.
| What's the psychology behind it?
Why do people want it to be a thing?