terminology
| dunning krueger
| it depends what cases you're talking about. Fascism clearly exists in the modern world.
| >fascism exists
and?
| the existence of fascism isn't being denied
| know about the is-ought problem?
| stating a fact (e.g. xyz is fascism) by itself doesn't argue for or against anything
| >>1069433
Is like satanism. People need a way to really say the things they hate and fear, even if it’s inaccurate
| op you are a nazi just admit it
| *shits on the floor*
| fascists pretending to be a "worried third party" will never be believable. OP is a nazi.
| >assumes other person is a nazi/fascist without reason
go back to Twitter
| >>1069717
>eagerly gets super-defensive over strangers getting called out for being nazis or fascist-sympathizers
>claims to be a "worried third party" that has no ties to being a nazi or a fascist-sympathizer whatsoever
No one ever said nazis where smart.
| >ad hominem
| >no one said nazis were smart
i.e. just repeating the same assumption without adding any reasoning
| EVERYONE I DON'T LIKE IS A NAZI OKAY
| >>1069433
>In the rare cases the term fascism is used correctly, it is used as yet another reductio ad hitlerum.
I would say this is rather a fascist propaganda myth than a empirically proved fact.
| >>1069433
>Why do people use it?
The term "fascism" was popularized by mussolini for his political movement in italy, characterized by authoritianism, leader cult, anticommunism, corporatism.
>What's the point?
The point of giving things names is to be able to identify and discuss them without bringing up the entire definition behind it.
The efforts to gain the interpretation dominance by neo-fascists seeks to deceive people about the true nature of their rotten ideas.
| you think in an effete way (emotional reasoning)
| >>1069845 >>1069846
this^
and the fact that brainwashed fascist-sympathisers are putting so much energy into shitting up this tiny site for some reason is just werird but i guess its a side effect of targeting lonely young men with autism to spread their propaganda
| >>1069865
>brainwashed fascist-sympathisers are putting so much energy into shitting up this tiny site
HOOOLY FUCK you double nigger can't you see all the shitty "organic" threads that suddenly popped up by these retard marxists or are you blind perhaps? So you come in, YOU shit up the site, and then call anything that responds to it "fascist-sympathizing"? The fucking gall of your asshole, my lard!
| >>1069871
Double nigger is the worst insult I ever heard.
The only one that can be even worse is triple nigger I think.
| >>1069871
A common noticeable thing about fascist leaning idiots is the gap between their self-portrayal and their self confidence.
Always shouting foul-mouthed, confusing sarcasm with intellect all to hide their insecurity that never can be fixed by the inconsistency of fascist ideologies without becoming a braindead lunatic.
| >>1069871
I'm NOOTICING
So, if you go on imgur right now, you'll find it barren. Some internal debacle, not my monkeys.
But it is where the resident libtards pulled all their talking points from. Now that it's gone as a PR medium, they have to invent their own threads.
Kind of embarrassing they weren't even part of the main think tank.
| Don't you nootice the circular reasoning in defining fascism as self-denying (i.e. that denying being a fascist proves one is a fascist)?
At that point I might as well call you a fascist by that definition and could consider it proven when you deny it being the case.
| one term for this denial as proof is Kafkatrap
| >>1069918
if it looks loke a zebra, acts like a zebra, and pushes zebroid ralking points, it's a zebra even if it claims its not.
| >zebroid
if the behavior of a zebra is defined circularly, anything can be a zebra, thereby becoming a meaningless term
| >picture
that's easy, because zebra has become a meaningless term, so one can just picture any human saying it
| >your brain on communism
| >>3c4b80 Also if you look at politics today a lot of parties that get called fascist get called that because they're literally political descendents of WW2 fascist parties. Like for example the Front National in France was founded by guys who were in the french Waffen-SS division. In Italy Fratelli D'Italia is a descendent of MSI which was founded by former Mussolinists. AfD in Germany has ties to neo-nazis as well.
| But you still get retards trying to muddy the waters by going "hold on bro we can't know if they're fascist because they don't call themselves fascists muh reductio ad hitlerum!!!!"
| Then the second you start actually defining fascism and identifying its characteristics they go "nuh-huh" as if nothing can't ever be defined. These morons don't have any problem calling everything they don't like communism tho.
| If you want to define fascism then you could read Umberto Eco's 14 points of fascism, or read Robert Paxton's anatomy of fascism. but they never will because their only role is to confuse people by freaking out whenever you call things what they are.
| I think these people are losing, cause as the fascist wave becomes more radicalized, and openly talks about ending democracy, even libs are calling that shit fascism, so the people that in 2017 went "you can't call everything you don't like fascism!" Just kinda sound out of touch now. We got a nazi invasion in Ukraine, a nazi genocide and Palestine, we got Trump trying to end democracy. The time for ambiguity is long gone.
| >here are the nazis!
>lists the most jewish asslicking parties in europe
...
| >>1070050 yeah zionists have always associated with antisemites lol, before WW2 the zionist movement's biggest allies were the kaiser and the tsar. This makes sense if you're not a retard
| >read two books to define fascism
It's not a complex/complicated enough concept to require that much reading (/that many words) to define.
It's unnecessarily convoluted to create intentional ambiguity, so you can use it for anything you don't like, while LARPing as intellectual.
| This retard is scared that he might actually have to think something through instead of just crossing his arms and going "nuh-huh". The whole point of defining concepts in depth is to remove ambiguity, meanwhile the point of going "not everything you don't like is fascism" is to add confusion and muddy the waters. You're the one being ambiguous here, not me. The only difference is that you're scared of learning anything while I'm not.
| Also lmao at the idea that a historical and political phenomenon with such influence isn't worthy of study, you people really are allergic to thinking kek
| >scared of learning
>allergic to thinking
ad hominem to the point it's actually just bait
| >>370aff
no I just think that your opinions are a product of your ignorance and general idiocy. It's not a fallacy to point it out.
This thread is closed.
| I don't get it...
In the rare cases the term fascism is used correctly, it is used as yet another reductio ad hitlerum.
Why do people use it?
What's the point?